Morning Holiday Music: Jimi Hendrix, Star Spangled Banner

Some morning maniac music for the 4th of July from Woodstock:

First, Jimi Hendrix's Star Spangled Banner and then the Jefferson Airplane signing Volunteers (of America.)

This is an open thread.

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    Thank you (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by koshembos on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 05:49:58 AM EST
    For a great blog, for great post, for service to the lefty community and most of all for being honest, truthful and straightforward.

    Anyone got a link to (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by magisterludi on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 06:22:09 AM EST
    West Side Story's America?. I love that NYC rooftop scene with Rita Moreno and George Chakiris. The lyrics are still timely (sigh).

    One of my favs too (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by nellre on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 09:40:40 AM EST
    A link... (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Jackson Hunter on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 06:23:43 AM EST
    that I posted on the last thread, if you are in a maniac mood, this just may fit the bill.  Sorry for linking to it again, but this song is really perfect IMHO.



    Well, (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by magisterludi on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 07:08:54 AM EST
    I am wide awake now. Hit that vid at full Altec Lansing speaker volume. I think I woke the neighbors, but the dogs and I thoroughly enjoyed!

    Ahhhhhhhh Hendrix .... (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by kempis on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 06:35:57 AM EST
    I just freeze in amazement whenever I see this. What an artist he was.

    Thanks for that--and for this blog. Discovering TalkLeft was the best thing to come out of the disappointing primaries for me.

    As kings and queens bow and play for you (none / 0) (#30)
    by Rojas on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 09:23:43 AM EST
    Look like we might have great weather here (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by MO Blue on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 07:03:03 AM EST
    Earlier in the week the forecast was for rain but today just cloudy with a high of 80. Small get together with friends are the plans for today. It will be nice to be able to spend a lot of time out on the deck. Good food, good friends and good weather. Can't beat that.

    60's (5.00 / 3) (#9)
    by mmc9431 on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 07:49:24 AM EST
    Maybe I'm just witnessing the generations change, but I get really upset when so many people attempt to dismiss the 60's generation as nothing but sex and drugs.

    I have a sense of global awareness, a belief in human and civil rights and the ability to rationly question my government. These attributes came from being part of a time when questioning our role in the world was encouraged.

    Don't forget the rock-n-roll! (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by kdog on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 11:37:17 AM EST
    In sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll:)

    Personally, I'm as grateful to the 60's generation for the sexual, psychotropic, and musical changes brought about as I am for the political upheaval.

    Most grateful for the music...the golden age, the golden age.


    I can't find my flag pin (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by Lahdee on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 07:52:57 AM EST
    OH NOES!

    Well (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Edger on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 07:59:39 AM EST
    if it's been done before it can be done again, right?

    After all, there are only 435 reps in the house, and only 100 senators, and only George and Dick.

    And there are 300 million people in America.

    Who outnumbers who here?

    Independence Day sounds like a hell of a good idea to me.

    Anybody else?

    I'm game.... (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by kdog on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 11:38:37 AM EST
    just waiting for the numbers my brother, just waiting for the numbers.

    I ain't going down for no reason...


    Good to see you, kdog. :-) (none / 0) (#54)
    by Edger on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 11:44:50 AM EST
    Lot's of (none / 0) (#55)
    by Edger on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 11:50:40 AM EST
    You too bro.... (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by kdog on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 12:40:41 PM EST
    good sh*t...Sly is the man:)

    Great hair too ;-) (none / 0) (#60)
    by Edger on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 12:58:45 PM EST
    surprisingly (to me anyway) (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by NJDem on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 08:20:59 AM EST
    the backlash in the liberal blogs has made the MSM

    And this was before the Roe/Wade flip-flop (though I find the mental distress not being a serious physical issue just as insulting).

    Some blogs were having fun last night posting tons of 'buyers remorse' type comments from Obama's blog.  Well, I guess this is democracy in action!  This election just may get exciting again :)

    Have a great 4th everyone and thanks always for this blog Jeralyn!


    Based on the tone of the article (5.00 / 3) (#21)
    by MO Blue on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 08:46:48 AM EST
    the so called "backlash" is only verbal. Anytime you tell a politician in advance that you will vote for him anyway no matter how much you hate the position he is taking, you can rest assured that you will have absolutely NO impact on changing his policy. Basically, you are granting him permission in advance to adopt even more policies that are against your interests.

    So far, the blogs have been counterproductive in advancing their own previously stated issues.

    Personally, I will not adhere to the policy that "I have nowhere else to go." There are other options and other non Republican candidates and push come to shove, I can always go to the grocery store instead of the voting booth.  


    there were posts on Obama's blog (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by NJDem on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 09:04:16 AM EST
    from people saying that they will stay home.  And there's also the 'Obama Progressive Escrow Fund' thing too.  

    It's funny, don't people remember that Arianna was a republican and Kos voted for Bush?    


    Glad To Hear That Some People (5.00 / 4) (#31)
    by MO Blue on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 09:29:14 AM EST
    on his blog are saying they will stay home. The escrow fund idea while clever will not be productive IMO. I'm a the point where I don't think this train will be stopped and it will be a long GE cycle where more and more issues and principles will be kicked to the curb.

    I am aware that Arianna and Kos were Republicans. The tactics used on the Obama 527 blogs to squelch and silence opposing viewpoints were the same as those employed by Republicans for decades. I always hated those tactics and get rather nauseous seeing them become the standard fare among many Democrats.



    Yes, and those tactics are employed here too (5.00 / 2) (#41)
    by Dr Molly on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 09:50:25 AM EST
    by some commenters who respond to dissent with the same old tired silencing mechanisms - "you're a McCain shill, you're a Hillary cultist, you're a republican, you're a right-wing troll, you're an Obamaphobe, you just hate Obama, and on and on". It's so childish and tedious. The only difference is that there are fewer of them here than there are at Cheetoh.

    More importantly, your main point is so true and so very disappointing to me. Obama will win, IMO, but so many progressive issues have been jettisoned to get there. His trajectory from where he started and where he's ended up has been really heartbreaking to watch.


    Yes: If he wins, what will we win? (none / 0) (#57)
    by Cream City on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 12:11:14 PM EST
    I know what he will win, if he wins.

    I don't yet know the answer to the second part of the question.  There is time yet.  But I'm waiting.


    The Progressive Escrow Fund (none / 0) (#64)
    by Valhalla on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 03:38:26 PM EST
    is undermining itself from the word go:

    We are absolutely not trying to hurt Obama - we'll give him our money at some point. We're just asking for a little R-E-S-P-E-C-T like Aretha Franklin sang about.

    Why bother?  They should at least threaten to give it to some irksome yet still Dem 527 if he doesn't come around.

    I truly don't understand this reasoning.


    Will Bower has been a GOP plant (5.00 / 6) (#18)
    by Cream City on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 08:31:38 AM EST
    all along?  Wow, that's quite the conspiracy theory.

    I checked out cheetopia today, (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by masslib on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 08:34:41 AM EST
    and do you believe there is absolutely nothing about Obama's comments on women's reproductive health?  Nada.  Zip.  This site is supposed to be the biggest Democratic blog on the net?  What a joke.

    And that surprises you? (5.00 / 4) (#24)
    by MO Blue on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 08:49:20 AM EST
    Women's issues have not exactly been in the forefront on that site for quite awhile. Rampant sexism OTOH was alive and well.



    Can we have (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by americanincanada on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:01:49 AM EST
    this candidate instead?!?

    I believe that the potential for life begins at conception. I am a Methodist, as you know. My church has struggled with this issue. In fact, you can look at the Methodist Book of Discipline and see the contradiction and the challenge of trying to sort that very profound question out.

    But for me, it is also not only about a potential life; it is about the other lives involved. And, therefore, I have concluded, after great, you know, concern and searching my own mind and heart over many years, that our task should be in this pluralistic, diverse life of ours in this nation that individuals must be entrusted to make this profound decision, because the alternative would be such an intrusion of government authority that it would be very difficult to sustain in our kind of open society.

    -- HRC


    I called it (none / 0) (#63)
    by Valhalla on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 03:29:09 PM EST
    on one of the threads yesterday.  Someone asked how the Obama blogworld would pretzel themselves out of the 'mental distress' issue.  I said it was quite straightforward, bc 'Women Don't Count.'

    Ignoring the whole thing is fabulously easy.  And revealing.


    Doesn't surprise me at all (5.00 / 5) (#27)
    by Dr Molly on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 08:56:11 AM EST
    The idea that women should have full empowerment over their own bodies and reproductive rights is apparently a quaint little anachronism of the left.

    It is now the position of the left that men in power should set the rules about when abortion is and isn't OK.


    Stop saying that (5.00 / 4) (#26)
    by Regency on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 08:52:34 AM EST
    You don't know what you're talking about since I am not, nor have I ever been a Republican. Well, I wasn't before May 31st, but that's neither here nor there.

    I don't care who started it or even why she started it since I take her at her proven word. Regardless of her political affiliation, millions of people in this country responded to her call with their own indignation. They aren't all Republicans--at this point, most aren't Democrats either.

    We are not a GOP front job. We are--some former--Democrats who see this party running itself into the ground and don't intend to let it take the country with it. Hillary is our #1 choice.

    Everything else is personal.

    Spend a moment (5.00 / 2) (#39)
    by nellre on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 09:48:32 AM EST
    Remembering the goals of America's forefathers.

    What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?-Thomas Jefferson

    Late term abortion note. (5.00 / 2) (#47)
    by Fabian on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:22:26 AM EST
    Late term abortions are usually performed for two reasons:
    The health of the mother is in danger.  Eclampsia is a common cause.  Eclampsia is catastrophically high blood pressure caused specifically by the pregnancy itself.  See Trina Bachtel for the worst case scenario.

    The fetus isn't viable or suffers gross developmental defects.  Depending on prenatal care, these problems may be caught as early as 20 weeks via ultrasound.  If not, the problems (anencephaly and hydrocephaly are two such) until later in the pregnancy.  The decision to terminate these pregnancies are often extremely difficult.

    (The idea that late term abortions are caused by women "waiting" is unsupported.  Waiting for what exactly?)

    Thanks for this (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by Dr Molly on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:53:24 AM EST
    Phrases like "women waiting too long" or "just because of mental distress" are right-wing frames used to undermine abortion rights. They are no different than "welfare queen" and other such dogwhistles. He's whistling in the direction of the religious right on this, and it is infuriating that the Obamaphiles make excuses for it. Pretty soon it will "baby killers". Yuck.

    In the case of anencephaly (none / 0) (#56)
    by Fabian on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 11:58:01 AM EST
    A vaginal birth isn't even possible.  So a woman's choices are birth via invasive C-section to a child that will likely die hours or days after birth or a less invasive late term abortion.

    That's a choice I wouldn't wish on anyone.


    And, also, the future ability of the woman (5.00 / 1) (#58)
    by Cream City on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 12:17:03 PM EST
    to carry to full term, in the case of a grossly deformed fetus that cannot survive -- but its delivery at full term could result in harm to the reproductive capability of the mother in future.

    The anti-abortionists like to neglect that reason, as another example of their lack of reasoning on this -- that the woman may be one who wants to be a mother, very much so.  Imagine the "mental distress" of having to carry to term, knowing that you will not be a mother then and never may be one again.


    Thanks, Jeralyn (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by samanthasmom on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:36:39 AM EST

    An American Tune (none / 0) (#2)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 06:04:04 AM EST
    Paul Simon

    I'll be more upbeat later after my coffee!

    Sex, drugs and don't forget (none / 0) (#10)
    by zfran on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 07:51:09 AM EST
    rock and roll and free love!

    every time i hear a hendrix riff, (none / 0) (#13)
    by cpinva on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 08:05:46 AM EST
    it just blows my mind to think that, at one point early in his career, he was fronting for The Monkees in concerts. boy, talk about polar opposites musically! lol

    ok, i'll bite, what the heck are PUMAs, aside from track shoes and wild cats?

    PUMA (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Lahdee on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 08:12:09 AM EST
    Party Unity My Ass. They popped up after the DNC meeting where Obama was awarded the nomination, as such.

    He's on shaky ground (none / 0) (#17)
    by mmc9431 on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 08:27:35 AM EST
    Obama's attempt to introduce himself to the American public may blow up in his face. He might have done better to remain the elusive, cheer leader he was during the primary. Now he appears to be just another unprincipled politician that will say anything to anyone if he thinks it's what they want to hear.

    ugh (none / 0) (#19)
    by Josey on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 08:34:30 AM EST
    Charlotte Observer: Obama's chances in NC - slim


    And once again - an analyst includes the racial factor in reasons Obama will lose - rather than voters rejecting his Empty Suit!

    Never Believed (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by mmc9431 on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 08:48:50 AM EST
    The hype on NC. VA or GA. I'm still not convinced he has MO either.

    IIRC The last MO poll had McCain up by 7 (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by MO Blue on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 08:52:23 AM EST
    McCain by 5 in MO seems about right to me. As a life long resident, I can't see Obama winning over the conservative Dems that he needs to win the state. Of course, I could be wrong but I just don't see it.

    Oh, but a headline on Huff Post (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:05:44 AM EST
    says race will not be a factor in this election.  

    say what? (none / 0) (#49)
    by NJDem on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:47:04 AM EST

    CNN: Obama may accept nomination at NFL stadium

    I saw something yesterday (none / 0) (#53)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 11:43:40 AM EST
    about the Obama campaign wanting a change in venue for the last day, and I thought it might be this - pack Mile High Stadium (OK, I'll call it Invesco Field so as not to get Jeralyn in too much trouble) with the grassroots instead of just the delegates that get to go to the convention.

     I think it is a genius idea. I've got to give them that, as much as I hate their policy decisions of late.


    They'll need a musical group (none / 0) (#61)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 02:18:51 PM EST
    I put this in a comment to the afternoon open thread:

    In order to get 50,000 people there. They wouldn't come for a political candidate alone. Isn't that how they got the crowd in Portland? They had Obama follow a concert. In fact, I'm going to do a new post on this.

    Question: Who will it be? Springsteen and Stevie Wonder or The Black Eyed Peas?

    I'd rather see Bon Jovi or the Eagles. Or Tom Petty (they sure use his songs enough, between American Girl and Won't Back Down.) Of course, none of those groups were declared Obama supporters before the nomination was decided.

    Mellencamp played at the DNC in Boston in 2004 in in 2008 he campaigned for Edwards in Iowa and elsewhere. He never chose between the candidates before the primary was decided -- his last shows after Edwards dropped out were one for Obama and one for Hillary. The Goo Goo Dolls also played for both candidates.

    And yes, Mile Hi Stadium has been gone for years. It's Invesco Field. There was a big to-do over the name at the time with a lot of people not wanting it named after a corporation. Money of course won out.


    but, but........................... (none / 0) (#66)
    by cpinva on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 06:06:03 PM EST
    that can't be jeralyn! i should think the mere presence of the "golden one" would be sufficient to draw adherents from all over the country, to gaze upon him!

    you're telling me now that the "glow" was only a stage effect, and that sen. obama is, in truth, a  mortal?

    oy vey is mir!


    Springsteen is booked (none / 0) (#67)
    by Cream City on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 06:11:47 PM EST
    about the same time -- for my town's amazing annual Harley Davidson anniversary party.  He just was announced yesterday.  He tours here often, in this working-class town, but this year is the opening of the Harley Davidson museum here -- a monument to a company owned by its workers now.

    So it may bring in as many hogs from around the world as the amazing 100th anniversary, when they took over the town.  We never had seen a biker festival; yikes.  And every year, the hogs parade into town (usually led by Jay Leno) by the thousands, which requires closing of the freeways filled with the most amazing customized cycles ever seen.  Quite a sight, but the sound level?  Earplugs recommended.  

    And the dedication of our Fonzie statue about the same time, I think, bringing the cast of Happy Days to the town where the series was based.  Next, we need a statue of Laverne and Shirley, the brewery line workers here.  A perfect storm of pop culture paradise.  By comparison, it sounds like Denver will be tame, with the convening of the  creative class. :-)


    Oh no! (none / 0) (#65)
    by Valhalla on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 03:49:20 PM EST
    I forgot to say, thank you, Jeralyn, for Jimi.

    I especially love him nonchalantly (none / 0) (#68)
    by Steve Davis on Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 03:52:18 PM EST
    putting a string back in tune while in the middle of playing in front of 500,000 people.