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Hillary Clinton's Victory Speech

Update: Here is Hillary's Speech.

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Hillary Clinton's West Virginia victory speech is about to start. I'll be live-blogging with continuous updates. Feel free to live-blog your reactions in the comments.

9:06 pm ET: Here she is. She's by herself. Thank you West Virginia. Like the song says, "It's Almost Heaven." I am so greatful for this overwhelming vote of confidence. [More...]

There are those who wanted to cut this race short. Give up, it's too hard. Here in W. Va. you know about rough roads to the top of the mountain.

I am more determined than ever to carry on this campaign until everyone has had a chance to have their voices heard.

I need your help to continue this journey. We are in the home stretch, only three weeks left in the final contest. Your support can make the difference. Go to Hillaryclinton.com.

There are many who wanted to declare a nominee before the ballots were cast. Reviews other primaries. This race isn't over. Neither of us has the total delegates it takes to win. Both Obama and I believe the delegates from FL and MI should be seated. She wants to count the votes and delegates.

Under the rules of our party, the total delegates is 2209. Neither of us have that. This win will move me closer.

I want to send a message. I believe I am the strongest candidate to lead our party in NOvember and the strongest president to lead our nation starting in Januaary.

I can win if you decide I should. The choice falls to all of you. I deeply admire Obama but I believe our case is stronger.

We have won millions of votes, 17 million, we've won in states we must win in November. She rattles them off.

No Democrat has won the White House since 1916 without winning W. Va.

The White House is won in the swing states and I am winning the swing states.

We have a vision for America that rewards hard work.

I am ready to go head to head against John McCain. Our party is strong enough for this challenge.

I never give up, I'll stand with you as long as you stand with me. Together we will draw the distinctions with the other party.

Choose who you believe will make the strongest candidate in the fall.

Why did people keep voting? Why did 65% of Democrats say they want the race to continue? People know they need a champion and someone who will never stop fighting for health care, jobs, the economy, homes, affordable college.

This election is about whether the American Dream remains alive and well for our children and grandchildren. At the very least, you should have a President who's on your side.

This fight has been positive for the Democratic party. We are united by common values. We are ocmmitted to putting a Democrat back in the White House. Our nominee will be stronger because of the long fight. I will work my heart out for the nominee to ensure we have a Democrat president.

It's close. A lot depends on those yet to vote. Think hard about how we will win in November. This is for a solemn purpose: to elect a president to turn our country around.

If you give me the chance, I'll come back to W Va in the general election and we'll win the White House.

Praise for Sen. Byrd and Gov. Mansion (sp?). And others.

Kentucky, Oregon, Puerto Rico, South Dakota, Montana. She talks about Florence Dean from South Dakota. She wants an absentee ballot brought to her hospice bedside. She was determined to exercise her right to vote for a woman running for President. Florence passed on a few days ago, but I am eternally grateful to her and her family to have helped her make this milestone.

Let's finish the job we started. America is worth fighting for. G-d Bless and thank you.

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    go to fox news.com (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by karen for Clinton on Tue May 13, 2008 at 07:48:51 PM EST
    or any major tv station like CNN they have it streaming live.

    Oh, Many Thanks K 4 C! (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by leis on Tue May 13, 2008 at 07:52:03 PM EST
    olbermann is ridiculing (5.00 / 3) (#10)
    by Kensdad on Tue May 13, 2008 at 07:50:56 PM EST
    olbermann is ridiculing Hillary's victory speech before it even gets started...  could he be a bigger a-hole?  it is as if he has challenged himself to see if he can surpass the inanity of his previous election night follies.

    he's doing that (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Jeralyn on Tue May 13, 2008 at 07:52:23 PM EST
    because he had Terry McCauliffe on earlier who said it was the greatest speech ever. He's mocking McCauliffe more than Hillary.

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    Mocking is mocking. I agree that he's an (5.00 / 6) (#57)
    by derridog on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:16:18 PM EST
    a..hole.

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    It was an exceptional speech. (5.00 / 2) (#165)
    by lyzurgyk on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:10:40 PM EST
    Credit where credit is due.   Hillary has become a top-notch campaigner.   Don't let Olberman off the hook.

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    It was a good speech (none / 0) (#116)
    by riddlerandy on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:26:49 PM EST
    not in the Churchill or Lincoln league

    McAulliffe may have exaggerated a bit

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    Jeralyn -- You should call for a BOYcott (none / 0) (#160)
    by Exeter on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:08:34 PM EST
    of MSNBC!

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    Great speech by Hillary! (5.00 / 3) (#156)
    by lyzurgyk on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:07:39 PM EST

    Sorry if the violates rules of decorum here but Keith Olberman is a putz.   I don't have TV at home but watched MSNBC at a friend's house.   It reinforced my decision to cancel my cable.

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    KO Was An Extra Crispy A$$ Tonight. He (5.00 / 2) (#209)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:43:59 PM EST
    should not even be allowed to participate in any election coverage.  Don't know what crawled up his butt, but he needs to have it extracted.  Talk about bitter!

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    Ignore Haters! (none / 0) (#148)
    by Muzza on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:04:01 PM EST
    All the haters in the media - don't waste your precious time & energy listening to their hate & propaganda!

    http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net

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    Did KO just call HRC fundraising (5.00 / 2) (#21)
    by DJ on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:04:42 PM EST
    a PONZI scheme?   WTF?

    Yes, he did; yes, he did. (5.00 / 4) (#30)
    by jawbone on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:09:56 PM EST
    I do not like that Olbermann. And he was so pleased with his little label, he repeated it a couple times. Even asked Timmeh if it was one.

    Timmeh did not actually say no, but did say it was politics.

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    KO is the jerk that everyone says he is.nuf said (5.00 / 1) (#90)
    by thereyougo on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:20:42 PM EST
    Olbermann was once a champion (5.00 / 2) (#207)
    by Addison on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:42:58 PM EST
    Keep in mind how obvious it is that Olbermann is a hack when you remember how often he led lefties in various crusades against the right during the past 5-6 years. Not to say Republicans were right on many of those issues, but it's an good illustration of how demagogues can get outed only when there's a schism of sorts. He is not an honest broker, not on Obama v. Clinton, or Democrats v. Republicans. He's a hack and a propagandist. He can't be trusted on anything.

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    He also referred to it as a pyramid scheme (none / 0) (#210)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:44:37 PM EST
    Is that the same boxing gloves guy? (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by nycstray on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:08:22 PM EST


    yes boxing gloves guy (5.00 / 1) (#187)
    by CHDmom on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:20:28 PM EST
    is a guy from Philly that post on Taylor Marsh

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    yes, I believe so (5.00 / 1) (#188)
    by Klio on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:20:44 PM EST
    I was on the rope line in Indianapolis [I've arrived!] and he looks like the same guy.  I love it.  Watching him, though, I missed the bowling pin fella mentioned upstairs!  bowling pin - what a riot...

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    She commends Obama (5.00 / 6) (#28)
    by stillife on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:08:50 PM EST
    and his supporters. She is gracious.

    She looks great, energized. (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by Maria Garcia on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:10:07 PM EST


    she looked beautiful (5.00 / 3) (#191)
    by bridget on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:22:57 PM EST
    the speech was v. good, just right, and it was a great crowd - she couldn't ask for a better audience :-)

    I missed Bill and Chelsea there but Hillary looked strong and happy. Ready to go on.

    What a wonderful victory for her.
    Congrats Hillary!

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    Hey, she knows there are 50 states! (5.00 / 5) (#32)
    by stillife on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:11:02 PM EST


    Oh, snap... (5.00 / 7) (#33)
    by Dawn Davenport on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:11:17 PM EST
    "Both Sen. Obama and I believe MI and FL delegates should be seated..."

    And they say she's not gracious. LOL. (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Maria Garcia on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:12:16 PM EST
    she's 1st class all the way....Obama's speech (5.00 / 5) (#104)
    by thereyougo on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:23:57 PM EST
    yawner the people around him look half asleep.

    Hillary has them cheering almost hopping.

    I never knew she could be as good as Bill
    and he is THE BEST !

    go Hillary!!~ all the waaaaaaay.......

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    that was a good one (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by nycstray on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:13:27 PM EST
    Rowdy crowd too (5.00 / 2) (#34)
    by smott on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:11:37 PM EST
    LIked the bit about WVians knowing about the roads to the top of the mountain....

    Hillary names the actual delegate criterion. (5.00 / 7) (#35)
    by andgarden on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:11:49 PM EST


    2209, Baby! (5.00 / 5) (#38)
    by Dawn Davenport on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:12:39 PM EST
    :)

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    I want a footnote. (5.00 / 9) (#40)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:12:51 PM EST
    Deservedly So (5.00 / 4) (#46)
    by BDB on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:13:44 PM EST
    Heh.

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    Heh (5.00 / 8) (#50)
    by andgarden on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:14:43 PM EST
    Wolfson and Garin should send you a fruit basket.

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    How can you resist endorsing this (5.00 / 5) (#89)
    by oculus on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:20:36 PM EST
    woman?

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    Back at ya ;-) (none / 0) (#132)
    by lambertstrether on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:38:58 PM EST
    Well, a link, at least...

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    See. They listened to BTD. (5.00 / 4) (#41)
    by oculus on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:12:56 PM EST
    I nominate BTD for advisor to the (5.00 / 2) (#137)
    by thereyougo on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:46:48 PM EST
    Clinton team( well he already is, sorta).Jeralyn's even handed approach to comments here does Hillary justice.  

    Hillary may be a bit tired, but who wouldn't be? But she's on point.

    I'm just waiting for the blogs that engage in the awful insults hurled at Hillary to trash her after she posts the impressive win in VW,and do so at the risk of losing credibility and relevancy. Cant come soon enough for me.

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    2209 (5.00 / 4) (#37)
    by ruffian on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:12:29 PM EST
    good for her.

    Yay -' I am the strongest candidate.'  

    Nice. (5.00 / 4) (#39)
    by Iphie on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:12:41 PM EST
    She mentions that both she and Obama agree that MI and FL must be counted. And then she used the magic number 2209.

    2209 (5.00 / 1) (#154)
    by Muzza on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:06:43 PM EST
    2209 is the ONLY number to think about. Forger you ever heard of that other flawed figure! Counting 50 states! 2209!

    http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net

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    "I believe I am the strongest candidate" (5.00 / 2) (#42)
    by stillife on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:13:05 PM EST
    You go, girl!  The voters aren't ready to give up on her.  Too bad the same can't be said of the DNC.

    I LOVE her! (5.00 / 6) (#45)
    by suisser on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:13:28 PM EST
    My small donation is on the way.
    I'm so proud of her, and all of those who have stood beside her.
    I love that she stakes her claim and stands up so tall for herself and her supporters with such grace.

    Swing states - yes! (5.00 / 2) (#48)
    by stillife on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:14:28 PM EST
    "I am winning the swing states."

    This Is a Good Speech (5.00 / 7) (#49)
    by BDB on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:14:41 PM EST
    Making the case for why she should be the nominee.  Upbeat and strong.

    It's a unity speech (5.00 / 4) (#199)
    by bridget on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:29:22 PM EST
    Inspiration your name is Hillary Clinton :-)

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    It is so fantastic (5.00 / 6) (#51)
    by vigkat on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:14:54 PM EST
    To see Hillary speaking before such a verbally supportive, enthusiastic and excited crowd after having listened to the sour pundits who were preceded it.

    Ha Ha. Olbermann will hate this speech.... (5.00 / 6) (#52)
    by Maria Garcia on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:15:05 PM EST
    ...she's acting like she can be the nominee. The nerve of her.

    this is hilarious (5.00 / 2) (#129)
    by Makarov on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:34:49 PM EST
    KO called her supporters "delirious"

    Tweety defends Russert and Chuck Todd as not being  pundits, goes on to say "it's not just us - all of the media say she can't win".  Calls her asking for donations "a ponzi scheme" - might've been quoting KO with that.

    KO "she's flip flopped on MI/FL"

    Tweety with the old "it's how the Clintons have handled the press".

    This is a Bob Somerby comedy gold mine.

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    Re: Bob Somerby (5.00 / 1) (#183)
    by ghost2 on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:18:38 PM EST
    I think this is the kind of comedy which brings Bob to tears every day, and they are tears of laughter.

    I really can't find an appropriate adjective to describe how I feel about the press.

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    oops. (5.00 / 1) (#185)
    by ghost2 on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:19:33 PM EST
    ... and they are not tears of laughter.  

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    She is definitely making her pitch to (5.00 / 6) (#53)
    by oculus on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:15:08 PM EST
    the Super-Ds.  Good job.

    Also She Is Saying The Voters (5.00 / 6) (#162)
    by squeaky on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:09:55 PM EST
    Must have their say. That is good for the Democratic party which is good for the GE.

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    It's now clearer than ever (5.00 / 6) (#54)
    by andgarden on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:15:13 PM EST
    that she is speaking to the super delegates.

    Yep (5.00 / 6) (#62)
    by BDB on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:16:59 PM EST
    But she's doing it in a very smart way, IMO.  By tying her candidacy to Democratic core constituencies.

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    The people behind her... (5.00 / 3) (#55)
    by apolitiko on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:15:16 PM EST
    ....are really entertaining.

    And it's nice that she's tying her candidacy... (5.00 / 2) (#58)
    by apolitiko on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:16:26 PM EST
    ....with the people of America.  It certainly helps people feel connected to her campaign.

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    I think she is reminding Kennedy et al that when (5.00 / 4) (#105)
    by Salt on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:24:33 PM EST

    the attack her they attack us the People.


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    haha, the guy with the bowling pin (5.00 / 2) (#64)
    by Dawn Davenport on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:17:11 PM EST
    Is that a dig at Obama's bowling skills?

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    I wish yellow shirt guy would stop swaying. (none / 0) (#61)
    by jawbone on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:16:45 PM EST
    But, hey.

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    he must need to go to the bathroom (none / 0) (#75)
    by bjorn on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:18:30 PM EST
    I Especially Liked The Guy With The Bowling (none / 0) (#214)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:50:15 PM EST
    pin...That was a big "in your face" to obama, who really should be ashamed.  A blind guy bowled a perfect 300 game last week.

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    She has me convinced (5.00 / 3) (#56)
    by Makarov on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:15:36 PM EST
    about who is more electable.  I just don't see her becoming the nominee without a floor fight.  I wish she'd commit to staying in for Denver.

    Not since 1916 (5.00 / 9) (#59)
    by Iphie on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:16:31 PM EST
    has any Democrat won the WH without winning W. Virginia. Big applause. That's gotta be worrying some SDs.

    I like the guy (5.00 / 4) (#60)
    by DFLer on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:16:40 PM EST
    second row, right side, holding the bowling pin!

    HA Ha... (5.00 / 2) (#71)
    by apolitiko on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:18:05 PM EST
    ....how was he able to go into the event with that?

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    yeah.. pretty funny! (5.00 / 2) (#82)
    by BostonIndependent on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:19:31 PM EST
    The contrast between the Obama backdrop (for his speech earlier today in MO) couldn't be starker. If only elections were decided based on that :-)

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    LOL (none / 0) (#84)
    by JustJennifer on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:20:03 PM EST
    Bowling pin guy.. that is pretty funny.

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    WooHoo Hillary. She's in it for EVERYONE! (5.00 / 5) (#63)
    by Maria Garcia on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:17:08 PM EST


    She actually gave me shiver there. I feel like (5.00 / 2) (#79)
    by Teresa on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:19:20 PM EST
    Tweety now (except it went up my back and not my leg).

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    the lifeblood of our democracy. (5.00 / 2) (#87)
    by Kathy on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:20:25 PM EST
    Man, that's a Bill Clinton line.  You know some skinny little 26 year old Jewish guy didn't write this stuff.  These are people who have lived every word she is speaking.

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    Now, Kathy. (5.00 / 1) (#101)
    by oculus on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:23:13 PM EST
    Speaking for skinny Jewish guys ... (5.00 / 5) (#134)
    by Robot Porter on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:43:33 PM EST
    everywhere.

    I think we know a thing or two about suffering.

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    oohhhhhh...I see! (5.00 / 3) (#171)
    by Kathy on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:14:18 PM EST
    I just used the same designation the NY Times did when they wrote about Obama's "brilliant" speech writer last year.  It has nothing to do with him being Jewish and everything to do with being out of touch.   He has proven to me that he doesn't know how to capture the attention of middle America and the working class.  

    I suppose I shouldn't have been lazy and actually tried to google his name instead of just using the characteristics the NY Times supplied.  My mother was Jewish, but she died before she could pass any tradition down to me, but believe me, my daddy instilled in me the utmost respect for the religion and the people.  This was a comment about Obama's folks being out of touch, specifically his young speech writer.  Nothing more or less, so please don't read anything nasty into it.  Y'all should know me better by now!

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    Speaking for skinny Jewish guys ... (5.00 / 1) (#135)
    by Robot Porter on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:44:15 PM EST
    everywhere.

    I think we know a thing or two about suffering.

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    Ahem. (none / 0) (#106)
    by Iphie on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:24:43 PM EST
    Not that there's anything wrong with the skinny little Jewish guy -- there's no reason to believe that he couldn't have lived the things she's speaking of.

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    nah, there's nothing wrong with him (5.00 / 2) (#122)
    by Kathy on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:28:54 PM EST
    but somebody has to be responsible for trashing the baby boomers.  It certainly wasn't another baby boomer, or someone who lived every inch of the Reagan years.  To quote a tool, "What's wrong with experience?"

    Y'all gotta admit, these phrasings are Clinton-esque.  They always worked on his big speeches together.  

    Did I hear Wolf saying before they cut to the speech that he'd never seen a (self-declared) winner this far in the contest lose so big to another candidate?  Wow.

    And she killed me with that dying old lady.  GREAT story.

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    I understand what you're saying (5.00 / 2) (#139)
    by Iphie on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:48:50 PM EST
    and yes, somebody had to initiate the trashing -- but I'm not sure what being Jewish has to do with it. And there are plenty of boomers out there who are trashing the boomers who are supporting Hillary. Donna Brazile is but one, high profile example with her "new coalition". I've seen Michael Wolfe before, and he is definitely a boomer -- same with Kurt Anderson. If I had to pin the blame on anyone for the trashing of the boomers, I'd place it directly on the candidate himself (or his message maker, Axelrod) -- they are the ones who have tried to make the distinctions with the "old" politics, and the old way of doing things.

    But her phrasing and themes are definitely Clintonesque, I agree. Those "old" ideas certainly have some power!

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    Made me cry (5.00 / 0) (#147)
    by nashville on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:03:58 PM EST
    i was clapping....(-: (5.00 / 0) (#176)
    by thereyougo on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:15:14 PM EST
    What I'm about to say is stupidity on my part (5.00 / 1) (#151)
    by Lil on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:04:41 PM EST
    but when she said the woman passed away, I wondered if her mail in still counted.

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    I'm sure (5.00 / 2) (#173)
    by hlr on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:14:21 PM EST
    BO will have someone at the election board to challenge it.

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    I'm sure (none / 0) (#177)
    by hlr on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:15:16 PM EST
    BO will have someone at the election board to challenge it.

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    Wow.. (5.00 / 3) (#65)
    by JustJennifer on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:17:23 PM EST
    this is really a different speech from her.  She is so tough.  I love her for that.  :)

    Sorry KO, this is her best speech ever (5.00 / 2) (#67)
    by bjorn on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:17:28 PM EST


    I love this attitude (5.00 / 2) (#68)
    by ruffian on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:17:34 PM EST
    not many smiles, just sheer confidence, determination and fight. Best closing argument ever.

    This isn't a victory speech (5.00 / 7) (#69)
    by karen for Clinton on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:17:47 PM EST
    This is a prime time campaign speech!

    She's making the case to the country and the superdelegates.

    She's reaching out to the country.

    She speaks about the people and Obama (5.00 / 4) (#70)
    by Teresa on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:17:50 PM EST
    speaks about himself. That's a big difference to me.

    Why keep voting she says? She's telling them tonight.

    My Donation (5.00 / 4) (#73)
    by just victory on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:18:09 PM EST
    Is on it's way. She's fired up now.

    the way she mentioned (5.00 / 11) (#74)
    by Kathy on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:18:21 PM EST
    card-carrying memebrs of the working class, the way she is positioning herself as a fighter--stand WITH them instead of in front of them--is pitch perfect.  She sounds like one of us.  It is absolutely unAmerican to quit when you still have a chance to win.

    Good use of polls.  Good use of information.  Man, what an awesome speech.  She's nailing everything she needs to.

    And, might I add, she looks absolutely radiant.

    thanks for all those calls you made (5.00 / 7) (#80)
    by bjorn on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:19:21 PM EST
    Kathy

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    I start again tomorrow (5.00 / 4) (#98)
    by Kathy on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:23:02 PM EST
    we can all do this--just an hour a day.  I was but one cog in the wheel.  And my cats just donated some money to her.  My God, what a brilliant woman.  This is an amazing speech by someone whose fingers are on the pulse of average Americans.  She knows what we need and she knows how to deliver it for us.

    Keep calling.  Keep donating.  Keep rising, Hillary!  Rise!

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    I'm signed up (none / 0) (#220)
    by Iris on Tue May 13, 2008 at 10:16:53 PM EST
    to make phone calls tomorrow at the local Hillary HQ!  Next: Kentucky!  LOTS of hard-working but low-income people in this state, and they need to hear more of Hillary's message.

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    Ka-ching! (5.00 / 7) (#76)
    by smott on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:18:48 PM EST
    Just gave another 50$!

    Come on people, give her a boost to keep going!

    I just did too. And I just paid the first $1500 (5.00 / 6) (#96)
    by Teresa on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:22:14 PM EST
    on a vet bill today with much much more to come. My little dog is a fighter like Hillary.

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    Good luck with the dog-- (5.00 / 1) (#158)
    by Molly Pitcher on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:07:49 PM EST
    I lost a beauty (GSD), crippled, in '04.  

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    So it's clear now. The distinction between them. (5.00 / 7) (#77)
    by Maria Garcia on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:19:11 PM EST
    It's a Fighter vs. My Little Pony.

    You won't quit . . . (5.00 / 4) (#78)
    by wurman on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:19:13 PM EST
    . . . and I won't either.

    Perfect.

    Just keep goin' day-to-day . . .

    Fantastic speech (5.00 / 5) (#81)
    by annabelly on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:19:23 PM EST
    If you know anything about WV roads, you know that opener was an apt analogy. Nice to see her touch on the magic 2,209 number too. She looks great and sounds great.

    I know! (5.00 / 4) (#88)
    by lilburro on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:20:33 PM EST
    My brother snickered and I said, "you don't how true that is!"  It's SCARY.

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    Excitement about politics part (5.00 / 7) (#83)
    by lilburro on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:19:51 PM EST
    is great.  She's turning this competition into a good thing.

    Had me clapping (and scaring the cats) (5.00 / 6) (#85)
    by jawbone on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:20:11 PM EST
    "Excitement about politics that is the lifeblood of our democracy."

    "Common threads that tie us together"

    Health care for everyone (5.00 / 5) (#86)
    by Iphie on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:20:17 PM EST
    no exceptions! This is how she hooked me in initially.

    Notice the crowd does not boo and hiss (5.00 / 12) (#95)
    by leis on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:22:14 PM EST
    when she says Obama's name.  Class act all the way.

    I bet they were told not to.... (5.00 / 6) (#99)
    by Maria Garcia on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:23:05 PM EST
    ...it starts from the top.

    Parent
    another difference in the crowd (5.00 / 2) (#127)
    by DFLer on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:33:28 PM EST
    ...the last Obama rally I saw, everyone was holding up their cell phones, taking vids...didn't see a sea of cell phones cameras here.

    Plus, gotta love the older woman behind Hill whose very pale arm often waved in a churchy way....

    Parent

    "this is not an abstract exercise" (5.00 / 1) (#97)
    by Iris on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:22:31 PM EST
    Go Hillary!!

    Yep (none / 0) (#113)
    by Lahdee on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:26:12 PM EST
    that one jumped out at me too.

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    "I am winning the swing states" (5.00 / 8) (#100)
    by joanneleon on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:23:06 PM EST
    ...values the middle class and vows to make it stronger.  I am ready to go head to head with John McCain... I believe our party is strong enough for this challenge... I'll stand with you as long as you stand with me... so I ask you democrats to choose who you believe will be the strongest candidate in the fall... people ask me all the time why I am in this race.  I am in it for the people I meet all along the campaign trail... for the nurse, the teacher, the waitress, the coal miner... you will never be counted out and I won't either.  You will never quit and I won't either.. the question is why do so many people keep voting?  in the face of the pundits and the naysayers, they know... we have two wars, economy on the brink of recession... hurting people who desperately are just looking for a way to keep going ... for an economy that lifts everyone up... "

    [crowd starts chanting "Hillary"]

    this election is about whether or not the american dream remains alive and well.. we owe so much to future generations.. we don't want to see that dream recede.. you should have a president who is on your side.. i believe that this campaign has been good for the dem party and good for our country.  People are discussing and debating issues... record voter turnout.. lifeblood of our democracy.. we are united by common values.. we all want the best for our children and our country.. our nominee will be stronger for having campaigned long and hard.. hearing your story and answering your question.. i will work hard to make sure we have a democratic president.. i think we can all agree, it's been unprecedented.. it is still so close and it really does depend on who will vote in these next contests.. i'm asking that people think hard about where we are in this election and about how we will win in november... it has been a long campaign but it is just an instant in time in comparison with the consequences of the choice we make in november.. i am honored and grateful for the support and hospitality of the people of west virginia..."

    Joanneleon, you have always been the best (5.00 / 1) (#200)
    by chancellor on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:31:02 PM EST
    transcriber. Thanks so much.

    Parent
    Bow & curtsy to (5.00 / 3) (#109)
    by wurman on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:25:16 PM EST
    Sen. Byrd to the governor to the WV House speaker, hah, hah, she's hahhhht.

    Gracious, indeed.

    I can't believe how good she made Obama look (5.00 / 4) (#170)
    by madamab on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:14:01 PM EST
    while still making her case.

    Live and learn, Senator Not-Ready-For-Prime Time.

    Live and learn.

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    Touche. n/t (none / 0) (#215)
    by wurman on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:58:40 PM EST
    I hope Oregon is watching (5.00 / 4) (#110)
    by bjorn on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:25:38 PM EST


    I am crying now, really hard (5.00 / 1) (#115)
    by bjorn on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:26:14 PM EST


    Geez (5.00 / 1) (#117)
    by Emma on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:26:54 PM EST
    Teared up about Florence Steen.  Sniff.

    Her memory and his future are worth fighting for.. (5.00 / 3) (#118)
    by Maria Garcia on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:26:59 PM EST
    ...America is worth fighting for. I teared up.

    You weren't the only one. (none / 0) (#169)
    by ahazydelirium on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:13:36 PM EST
    Florence's vote was cast! (5.00 / 7) (#121)
    by karen for Clinton on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:28:16 PM EST
    My mom passed on several years ago. She taught me the importance of voting and she started taking me to human rights rallies before I knew how to talk. We marched on Washington together when I was a preteen. She supported me volunteering every day of the week for Anti-war groups. After I married and had a daughter, the three of us women representing three generations, went to the "No Nukes" rally together in Central Park.

    She'd be cheering tonight, and she's be like me, shedding a few tears. She loved the Clinton's and all 4 generations of my family felt safe and secure during Bill's years.

    We only have one shot at this every 4 years.

    My mom just told me (5.00 / 3) (#143)
    by Cream City on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:58:54 PM EST
    that they're cheering together up there.  And it's not "almost heaven." It is. :-)

    My mom was an activist, too, and an ardent Dem who had me ringing doorbells when I wasn't much taller than the doorknobs.  It is all our foremothers who made this night possible.  

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    same from my mom (5.00 / 1) (#159)
    by DandyTIger on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:08:15 PM EST
    and yes, it is heaven! woo hoo!

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    Just put Mom on a plane (5.00 / 2) (#195)
    by echinopsia on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:24:55 PM EST
    to go home after visiting me for Mother's Day. At the airport, she insisted on giving me $100 "to spend on yourself."

    I'm going to give that $100 to Hillary.

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    WomenCount PAC (none / 0) (#221)
    by MO Blue on Tue May 13, 2008 at 10:22:21 PM EST
    plans to run a full-page, front section "open letter" in USA Today and other newspapers in the coming days.

    Not So Fast...
    Hillary's Voice is OUR Voice,
    And She's Speaking for All of Us

    We are the women of this nation. We are rich and poor, young and old, married with kids, married without kids, single moms, gay, straight, and widowed. We are every color. We are of every religion. We are from all political parties.

    We love our country. Now more than ever, so much of what we cherish is at risk - our homes and our health, our safety and our planet, our children and our values. We raise our voices, in one glorious, defiant chorus, to tell the world that these times demand strength, courage and vision.

    Taylor Marsh

    Go read the rest. It is very powerful. They could also use some financial support but stress, however, that if you are not maxed out, that your donations go to Senator Clinton's campaign FIRST and the WomenCount PAC second. Info on how to contribute is in the post.

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    Women's suffrage ratifed 8/18/1920, (5.00 / 1) (#123)
    by jawbone on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:29:38 PM EST
    certified 8/26/1920.

    Now, KO raising numbers issues.  

    Tweety says it's based on FL/MI being seated and SDs.

    Tweets says "her version of reality" is pretty good. Huh?

    Fantastic speech!! (5.00 / 1) (#124)
    by gmo on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:30:19 PM EST
    Now THAT'S the Hillary I love!  All the way to the White House!!!

    Does anyone care anymore (5.00 / 2) (#125)
    by pie on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:31:20 PM EST
    if KO isn't Hillary's best supporter?

    He's actaully helping her in his own jockstrap way.

    Classy from beginning to end... (5.00 / 7) (#130)
    by Addison on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:35:30 PM EST
    ...a good job.

    Very gracious of you. Thanks. (5.00 / 4) (#149)
    by oculus on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:04:12 PM EST
    thanks, Addison (5.00 / 3) (#197)
    by Kathy on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:26:34 PM EST
    your graciousness really goes a long way.

    Parent
    Obama talks about himself. (5.00 / 4) (#133)
    by smott on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:40:23 PM EST
    While Hillary talks about regular people and relates it to her message.

    It resonates so much more with the audience.

    Unless you're in love with a narcissist, that is. Here's hoping the SDs get over their crush.


    Awesome speech. She is revved up and (5.00 / 1) (#136)
    by leis on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:46:06 PM EST
    and she hit all the right notes. They were right bestest by far.

    The facts are: (5.00 / 2) (#138)
    by pie on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:48:25 PM EST
    Obama isn't the one.  He's never been the one.

    He doesn't get it, because he hasn't been there.

    I'm sure he's a fine fellow.  But Michelle is more formidable, frankly.

    They'll be fine.

    But America won't be if he's the nominee.

    End. Of. Story.

    Simple (none / 0) (#167)
    by Muzza on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:12:38 PM EST
    I actually think Michelle would be a more interesting candidate too! At least she has some fire! BO is about as inspiring as a piece of wood.

    http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net

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    I like the line (5.00 / 4) (#141)
    by kayla on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:52:28 PM EST
    about how their campaigns are just an instance of time compared to the decision making in November that will have long lasting consequences.  Or something like that.

    Tweety & McAuliffe (5.00 / 4) (#142)
    by janarchy on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:53:05 PM EST
    McAuliffe just got Tweety all huffy and hysterical about her staying in the race - now Tweety's contending that he (and the other pundits) all want HRC to stay in the race and to have a floor fight at the convention since it's 'exciting'. He totally backpedaled on the whole WWTSBQ line and swore he was never like that.

    Meanwhile Amy Klobuchar was just bleating the party line to KO. What is it with these first time Democrat senators? Are they all on Kool-Aid or what?

    Now Timmie (5.00 / 4) (#150)
    by vigkat on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:04:39 PM EST
    is doing it.  He NEVER said anything like that, nor has he ever heard ANYONE from either side say that. Where have you been Tim?

    Parent
    I know! (5.00 / 4) (#155)
    by janarchy on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:07:32 PM EST
    It was their evil clones what said it! It wasn't really Tweety or Timmeh the Pumpkin Head! It was imposters!

    I'm waiting for KO to suddenly about face too.

    Parent

    Great speech but will the Supers have the guts? (5.00 / 2) (#144)
    by Saul on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:59:45 PM EST
    I get that funny feeling that as things go Hilary's way and that her argument that she is more electable becomes more obvious and sound, will the Supers have the guts to start defecting from Obama to Hilary.  How afraid are they to do that even if it shows that switching to the most electable candidate that could win the GE was the true purpose of why they were created?  

    "A thumping," according to CNN (5.00 / 4) (#152)
    by Cream City on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:05:11 PM EST
    John King calls it that.  Blitzer asks if that's a political term.  King says yes, learned it in
    "political school."

    I think a lot of super-delegates could use a trip back to political school, too.  It looks like Clinton could take all of the counties.

    Put that together with her great speech, super-delegates.  And go back to school on the math, too -- you still can change it.

    Parent

    King impressed me tonight. (5.00 / 2) (#163)
    by janarchy on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:10:04 PM EST
    He actually acknowledged what is happening in WV (last I saw it was 65% to 28% and rising -- 57,000 votes ahead!) without trying to negate it any way, shape or form. What a refreshing point of view -- reality!

    Parent
    7:58 PST Clinton 66% obama 27% (none / 0) (#216)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:59:16 PM EST
    95,000 votes ahead

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    I'm hopeful. Has the Rev. Al (none / 0) (#145)
    by oculus on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:02:22 PM EST
    spoken tonight?

    Parent
    stick = stir (5.00 / 1) (#184)
    by Kathy on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:19:21 PM EST
    I am so proud of our girl tonight.  Man, what a speech.  Just listened to it again.  She was fantastic.

    Parent
    I especially liked the color of (5.00 / 1) (#211)
    by oculus on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:46:20 PM EST
    her jacket; makes it easy to follow her working the crowd after the speech, which was pitch-perfect.

    Parent
    That was wonderful. (5.00 / 3) (#157)
    by madamab on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:07:40 PM EST
    My husband was crying unabashedly and so was I. She hit every note and almost broke down when talking about that adorable 11-year-old. She is 100% presidential in every way.

    excellent speech!! fight to the convention!! (5.00 / 1) (#168)
    by DandyTIger on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:12:51 PM EST
    I hope I hope I hope Hillary fights all the way to the convention. The regular delegate recently and certainly SD's that have switched have all taught us a lesson, the numbers don't matter until they're official in August. So fight to the convention. And the magic number is 2209. Period.

    And as for MI and FL: count the votes, count the votes, count the votes.

    I cannot stand that Brazile air ballon on CNN (5.00 / 2) (#174)
    by feet on earth on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:14:24 PM EST


    She is winning the popular vote in Nebraska (5.00 / 1) (#180)
    by D Jessup on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:16:45 PM EST
    Here are the numbers sofar in Nebraska per c span
    President - Dem Primary
    365 of 1699 Precincts Reporting - 21%
     Clinton, Hillary Dem 13,861      50%  
     Obama, Barack Dem 13,019         47%  
     Gravel, Mike Dem 1,036            4%

    Obama can never win the GE.

    Wolfson is worth whatever money he's getting..... (5.00 / 3) (#190)
    by thereyougo on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:22:08 PM EST
    His passion is infectious

    Thank you Kathy for cheering Hillary,

    R-I-S-E  .....indeed Hillary  R-I-S-E  !!

    Correction: Hillary isn't appearing (5.00 / 1) (#192)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:23:21 PM EST
    with Greta - just clips of her speech. But Rove's on now - he's basing his math on exclusion of FL & MI - no surprise. He's giving Obama tips: he needed to give big speech of his own tonight, ergo "he looked like a sore loser and a sore winner".

    Greta asked if the stats would be diff if only Dems had voted in the primaries - Rove said yes, probably Clinton would be ahead. He expects Obama to win nom bec of wins in red state caucuses but that's a prob for the GE. Rove says students have too much infl in the caucuses bec they're the ones's with the time to participate.

    Greta is being quite good.

    Florence Ann Steen (5.00 / 1) (#203)
    by facta non verba on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:35:24 PM EST
    Jeralyn wrote Florence Dean but it's Florence Ann Steen

    The story of Florence Steen in Hillary's speech tonight has me in tears. I've looked more into the story and found her obituary and a guestbook for condolences. Please take a moment to express our sympathies:

    Florence Ann Steen.

    The young boy in KY was Dalton Hartford.

    I Thought It Was Dalton Hatfield? (none / 0) (#218)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue May 13, 2008 at 10:07:54 PM EST
    you're right (none / 0) (#222)
    by facta non verba on Tue May 13, 2008 at 10:40:35 PM EST
    it is Dalton Hatfield.

    Parent
    This is a first (5.00 / 2) (#206)
    by Sunshine on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:42:19 PM EST
    Usually when the media declares a winner, the voters there after vote for the candidate that is declared the winner...   Not so here and it seems to be driving some of these pundits crazy...  They keep declaring him the winner and she keeps coming back...  Now they have lost all last week and I guess they will have to wait at least 2 weeks before they can declare him winner again...

    Under the rules of our party? (1.00 / 2) (#43)
    by tomangell on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:13:10 PM EST
    I guess Florida and Michigan should have thought of that before scheduling their contests in violation of the rules...

    Mmmm.... (none / 0) (#166)
    by Muzza on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:10:49 PM EST
    Suspect comment!

    Parent
    Please leave this thread for Hillary's speech (none / 0) (#3)
    by Jeralyn on Tue May 13, 2008 at 07:48:29 PM EST
    There are other threads to post about other issues.

    Will they rerun it? Carville said it is going to (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by leis on Tue May 13, 2008 at 07:50:08 PM EST
    be the bestest speech ever.

    Parent
    Where is she speaking (none / 0) (#6)
    by katiebird on Tue May 13, 2008 at 07:50:06 PM EST
    Tweety's making me sick.

    I'm flicking back and forth (none / 0) (#11)
    by stillife on Tue May 13, 2008 at 07:51:40 PM EST
    around all these loathsome channels, but I can't see the speech either.

    Parent
    Not till 9:05 EST they are saying now (none / 0) (#18)
    by ruffian on Tue May 13, 2008 at 07:53:23 PM EST
    Maybe... (none / 0) (#25)
    by gmo on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:06:15 PM EST
    ...waiting for American Idol to end? ;)

    Parent
    CSPAN 2 (none / 0) (#91)
    by lisadawn82 on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:20:53 PM EST
    No commentary.  Just speech.

    Parent
    9:05 MSBC says now (none / 0) (#16)
    by Jeralyn on Tue May 13, 2008 at 07:53:09 PM EST
    But please wait to comment here until she speaks. Thanks.

    Crowds look big for speech (none / 0) (#19)
    by Jeralyn on Tue May 13, 2008 at 07:59:57 PM EST
    Contrary to what the Washington Post said:

    Maybe it's a coincidence, but the venue for Sen. Hillary Clinton's election-night event sure looks tailored to a diminished campaign. Gone are the days of big crowds and bigger stadiums. She will speak tonight in the bowels of a downtown convention center in Charleston, W.Va., where two sets of bleachers will accommodate no more than a few hundred lucky supporters.


    God, why must they be such jerks? (5.00 / 4) (#22)
    by Maria Garcia on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:04:56 PM EST
    "The bowels"? (5.00 / 5) (#102)
    by stillife on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:23:42 PM EST
    What a**holes.

    Parent
    Rubbish! (5.00 / 1) (#164)
    by Muzza on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:10:12 PM EST
    That quote from Washington Post is a load of crap! Total BO loving gargabe!

    Parent
    Hillary's speech (none / 0) (#20)
    by Edgar08 on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:02:11 PM EST
    Will be awesome.

    Toodle-oo.


    Again, this thread is for her speech (none / 0) (#23)
    by Jeralyn on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:04:58 PM EST
    Use another one for other aspects of tonight's vote.

    Until the last dog dies - lol (none / 0) (#26)
    by ding7777 on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:07:38 PM EST


    I don't have any experience with lawyers (none / 0) (#47)
    by ruffian on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:14:10 PM EST
    except on TV and this blog - but I bet she was a good one.

    Dick Morris is (none / 0) (#66)
    by suisser on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:17:27 PM EST
    being interviewed over her right now on Fox.  Urggggh!

    Can't stand him (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by stillife on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:18:09 PM EST
    I switched to CNN.

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    I'm betting that Keith O... (none / 0) (#92)
    by Dawn Davenport on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:21:14 PM EST
    ...focuses on her saying she's the stronger candidate as "tearing Obama down."

    Wow. (none / 0) (#93)
    by Dalton Hoffine on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:21:17 PM EST
    Clinton basically just quoted Barack Obama with the whole "rich, poor, old, young, black, white, etc." quip there. Think Clinton is picking up the Unity Pony message?

    Oh, yeah, Dalton (5.00 / 2) (#120)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:28:05 PM EST
    Obama invented that rich, poor, black, white, etc., line.  And not only that, he did it long before he was even born!!  He's so magical, he can get people to crib from his future speeches for 100 years before he makes them!!

    Parent
    Be nice to Dalton... (5.00 / 3) (#175)
    by OrangeFur on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:14:35 PM EST
    Be nice to everyone, but especially Dalton. He's earned it.

    Parent
    Hmmm. Was that Barack, Patrick, or (none / 0) (#112)
    by oculus on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:25:59 PM EST
    Axelrod?

    Parent
    No. (none / 0) (#114)
    by pie on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:26:12 PM EST
    It's not been Obama's message stated in that way.

    Parent
    If We Get a Consensus Nominee (none / 0) (#103)
    by BDB on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:23:52 PM EST
    then a lot of pledged delegates will switch over to that candidate.  

    Until August, don't sweat it, if he switched to Obama because he appears to be the winner, he'll switch back if Clinton somehow comes back.

    Hillary rocks. (none / 0) (#108)
    by pie on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:24:59 PM EST
    Just sayin'.

    Nice, genuine show of emotion... (none / 0) (#119)
    by apolitiko on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:27:07 PM EST
    ....when talking about florenstine and dalton.

    Does anyone care anymore (none / 0) (#126)
    by pie on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:31:55 PM EST
    if KO isn't Hillary's best supporter?

    He's actually helping her in his own jockstrap way.

    Does anyone care anymore (none / 0) (#128)
    by pie on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:34:10 PM EST
    if KO isn't Hillary's best supporter?

    He's actually helping her in his own jockstrap way.

    KO (5.00 / 1) (#178)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:15:44 PM EST
    needs a good psychiatrist.  He's actually losing his mind.

    I wonder if he's taking prednisone for his Crohn's.  That would do it to a person.

    Parent

    Okay. (none / 0) (#131)
    by pie on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:38:31 PM EST
    Bur three times is not a charm.

    Parent
    Tweety & McAuliffe (none / 0) (#140)
    by janarchy on Tue May 13, 2008 at 08:51:43 PM EST
    McAuliffe just got Tweety all huffy and hysterical about her staying in the race - now Tweety's contending that he (and the other pundits) all want HRC to stay in the race and to have a floor fight at the convention since it's 'exciting'. He totally backpedaled on the whole WWTSBQ line and swore he was never like that.

    Meanwhile Amy Klobuchar was just bleating the party line to KO. What is it with these first time Democrat senators? Are they all on Kool-Aid or what?

    Klobuchar (5.00 / 1) (#179)
    by DFLer on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:15:47 PM EST
    lots of folks from Emily's list and other women who worked hard to get her elected here were none too happy about her stance.

    ps..this is kinda funny:
    Flash: Even Google is sexist! : I couldn't remember the Emily aprt of Emily's List in the heat of the moment, so I googled it. I typed in (e)lecting/women "list" accidentally leaving off the first "e"

    Google replied:

    Did you mean: lactating women "list"  

    Parent

    So Klobuchar (5.00 / 2) (#189)
    by janarchy on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:22:05 PM EST
    is in the same tank as McKaskill then? That's been my frustration with EMILY's List over the years. They support female candidates across the board (which is admirable) but we get an awful lot of clunkers in the mix too.

    Parent
    it's absolutely an issue (5.00 / 1) (#213)
    by Klio on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:49:07 PM EST
    not sure how we deal with it going forward, but we can't have an emily's list that expressly supports women who then don't support in return.

    Parent
    I think Klob is a bit brighter than Claire (none / 0) (#202)
    by DFLer on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:31:48 PM EST
    She was Hennepin County Attorney 1998 thru 2006, with a pretty strong record.

    (FYI: Hennepin County is basically the Minneapolis metro area.)

    Parent

    Great Speech! (none / 0) (#146)
    by Muzza on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:02:26 PM EST
    It was a great speech from Hillary. She made it clear she is in this til the convention whilst at the same time adopting a unifying tone - something Obama knows nothing about!!!! More results discussion here:

    http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=11121

    Hillary is going to be on FOX (none / 0) (#153)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:06:20 PM EST
    with Greta in a few minutes.

    Tweety is in full (none / 0) (#161)
    by vigkat on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:09:43 PM EST
    meltdown.  Interesting.  He and Timmie just can't figure this thing out.  They're sticking with the math.  

    Results Discussion! (none / 0) (#172)
    by Muzza on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:14:19 PM EST
    More results discussion here (700 comments so far):

    http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=11121

    The speech was great! (none / 0) (#182)
    by rafaelh on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:18:04 PM EST
    Congrats to Senator Clinton for the victory. Everyone can see that Hillary has been getting better each month this primary goes on. And if Obama wins, I WANT her to be his Vice-President, it would be stupid of him not to ask her.

    2209? Sure, let's do it. I'm pretty sure he'll get that eventually. (That wasn't the number she was using two month ago, but I can wait.)

    But once he wins, can we agree to act together to avoid more damage to this country and our constitution? I don't get this. If Hillary had won, I would have been disappointed but I would have respected the results. I beg you to consider the consequences of a McCain presidency. I don't know if this country can take one more term of Republican pillage.  

    Again, congrats to Senator Clinton on a great night. On to Oregon and Kentucky!

    Let's talk WHEN someone wins (5.00 / 3) (#193)
    by Marvin42 on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:23:40 PM EST
    And let's start by not pretending anyone has won. I know the media claims otherwise, but the same media claimed we had to go into Iraq, so excuse me while I ignore them completely.

    Parent
    That's a fair argument (5.00 / 2) (#205)
    by rafaelh on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:41:26 PM EST
    This is the closest campaign in history, she has a much better chance to win that J. Jackson or Ted Kennedy, and they stayed until the end. (By the way, Kennedy's comments the other day sucked.)

    Even if she doesn't win, she can use her delegates to pressure for changes in the party's platform (like in healthcare for example).

    But whoever wins, McCain winning would be a much worse alternative. You'd think Bush would have taught us that both parties are not the same.

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    No (5.00 / 1) (#196)
    by dissenter on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:25:15 PM EST
    way, no how. Barack Obama is unqualified. End. of. Story.

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    That is your opinion (5.00 / 1) (#208)
    by rafaelh on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:43:24 PM EST
    But couldn't you respect that others disagree? And that maybe there will be enough of those to make Obama the Democratic party's nominee? If that happens, do you think McCain will be a better alternative?

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    rafaelh, all due respect, (5.00 / 1) (#198)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:28:37 PM EST
    save your begging for blue collar voters.

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    Oh, believe me (5.00 / 1) (#212)
    by rafaelh on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:47:30 PM EST
    I'll beg everyone I can. That said, my father was a school janitor and busdriver that made about 11k a year. And he's a pentecostal pastor. Me, I have two jobs just to keep the credit card and student loan people from calling more than 1o times a day. Do I qualify as blue collar?  Then again, I'm Puerto Rican and live in NY so my vote won't have that much effect. :)  

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    assumptions... (5.00 / 1) (#224)
    by moll on Tue May 13, 2008 at 11:32:14 PM EST
    But once he wins, can we agree to act together to avoid more damage to this country and our constitution?

    once she wins.

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    Donna is taking this hard (none / 0) (#194)
    by Sunshine on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:24:12 PM EST
    I think Donna plans on having her own version of the butterfly ballot to use on May 31..  If possible she plans on pushing more SD's to try and get the 2025 deligates before MI and FL get counted....

    Jeralyn, did you delete my comment (none / 0) (#201)
    by BoGardiner on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:31:28 PM EST
    about Michelle Bernard predicting a gracious speech by Clinton?

    What's the largest margin (none / 0) (#204)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Tue May 13, 2008 at 09:35:59 PM EST
    Obama has won by in the preceding primaries?

    Clinton is now leading 65% to 27%.

    8:52 p.m. PST Clinton 67% obama 26% (none / 0) (#223)
    by PssttCmere08 on Tue May 13, 2008 at 10:53:31 PM EST