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Rezko Trial: Obama As Defense Witness?

ABC News runs with the headline today, Obama: Witness for the Defense? The article has no facts, and is based on the opinion of one lawyer -- a federal prosecutor who was part of the team that prosecuted former Ill. Gov. George Ryan in 2006. Since the Ryan case, he's left the Government and has been a defense lawyer for a total of one year.

He says,

Sen. Barack Obama could be called as a witness for his longtime friend and accused Illinois fixer Tony Rezko, according to Chicago lawyers following the case.

...."I think it's realistic that that could happen during the trial," said Zach Fardon, a former Chicago federal prosecutor who was part of the team that convicted former Illinois Gov. George Ryan on corruption charges.

His theory: [More...]

Obama has said he was "unaware" of the allegedly illegal contributions Rezko insisted others make, and the Obama campaign has donated to charity some $150,000 connected to Rezko and others involved in the federal investigation.

But former prosecutor Fardon, now with the Chicago office of Latham & Watkins, says Rezko's defense lawyer could use Obama "to show that Mr. Rezko is somebody active in politics and political fundraising and there's nothing unto itself nefarious about that fact."

Sorry, there is not a snowball's chance in h*ll Obama will testify -- whether Rezko wants him to or not.

Assume Rezko or his lawyer think Obama could help Rezko. They let Obama know, through his lawyers, they would like him to be a witness and why. Obama's lawyers respond that it would probably backfire on Rezko and remind Rezko's lawyers of the things he knows that he would probably be asked on cross-examination, which when answered truthfully by Obama, would be hurtful to Rezko.

If they wanted still wanted Obama to testify, let's say on some specific incident, Obama's lawyers would just tell Rezko's lawyers that Obama's memory is weak or not definitive or Obama recalls events differently.

At that point, Rezko's lawyers are unlikely to subpoena Obama and take a chance. No defense lawyer is going to call a witness who will hurt their case -- either by not supporting the proposition they are called to testify about or because the damage likely from cross-examination outweighs the favorable point the witness would make on direct examination.

At most, they would leak something to the media through their commentator pals that Obama could help Rezko but he won't.

I think it's poor journalism for ABC News to run with this story based on one former prosecutor who is not connected to the case.

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    I think the point here (none / 0) (#1)
    by Kathy on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 11:50:05 AM EST
    is not the weak, unsubstantiated story, but the fact that it's running in the first place.  Still think media darling status will make Obama more electable than Clinton?

    Also, what's to stop the prosecution from calling Obama?  To me, that would be the smart move.  Make him plead the fifth.

    that's not warranted (none / 0) (#3)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 11:59:21 AM EST
    Please do not imply Obama did something wrong for which he needs to invoke his 5th Am. privilege. That's not fair when there is no indication from any government source that it's true.

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    I'm (5.00 / 3) (#41)
    by tek on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:27:58 PM EST
    really at the point with this that I find it hard to worry about Obama being damaged by association with Rezko when he has purposely smeared Hillary Clinton on numerous occasions and refused to correct the record when his campaign and supporters implemented slash and burn politics to hurt her.  He actually accused both Clintons of making racist remarks that he and his campaign directors manufactured and spread through the media as if they were facts.  Then that outright lie to Ohio and TX about NAFTA has me hoping that something, anything, will keep him out of the WH.

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    Well, yes (none / 0) (#68)
    by Cream City on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 02:42:03 PM EST
    I think that the smears of racism against the Clintons, who have worked hard against it, not only were unfair to them -- and that cemented my concern about Obama -- but also, frankly, have set back the ability to have a good discourse about race in this country. I've heard that from several teachers, and if teachers are even more concerned about how to deal with this in the classroom, we never will learn . . . and we all have been disserved.

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    Sorry! (none / 0) (#9)
    by Kathy on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:11:24 PM EST
    You know I am no Obama fan, but I wasn't using "the 5th" to imply guilt or innocence.  Us non-lawyers only know about the term from Perry Mason.  I will be more careful next time.  Apologies!

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    What's to stop the prosecution from... (none / 0) (#14)
    by ItsGreg on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:19:27 PM EST
    ...calling Senator Obama as a witness? I assume the fact that Obama has already stated that he had no knowledge of any illegal activity. Fitzgerald is a solid and very careful prosecutor; he's not going to call a witness who doesn't have anything to contribute to the prosecution.

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    what I fumbled very badly (none / 0) (#20)
    by Kathy on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:27:20 PM EST
    was saying that Obama could do the same thing to the prosecution that BTD says he could do to the Rezko folks, which is say that he doesn't remember or that he has nothing to add, in which case it wouldn't be wise to call him.

    Honestly, though, no matter who was involved in this case, I would say stay away from it at any cost.  The republicans have already shown that they will use the courts to bring down democrats.  This one appears to be going down a road that could threaten the IL governor.  Fitzgerald seems like a good guy, but Obama has a really big target on his back right now for obvious reasons.  The feds could pull another indictment out of thin air.  Rove may not be working under the White House roof, but he still knows how to make the right phone calls.

    That being said, Obama needs to call a news conference and answer these Rezko questions head on.  Not answering them is very, very bad from a political standpoint.  It's the same problem I have with his being so undefined.  He needs to make sure that the people writing the story of his life aren't part of the republican attack machine.

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    Should HRC (none / 0) (#32)
    by squeaky on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:09:21 PM EST
    Also have to answer a list of questions about her personal relationships and their legal troubles?

    I do not think you want to go there, irrespective of what slime the GOP will pull.

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    Oh man they been doing this since 1993 (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by Florida Resident on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:13:48 PM EST
    reams and reams of documents have been done on her dealings and her contributors.  So many trees have had to die for the cause of bringing down Hillary.

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    OK (none / 0) (#43)
    by squeaky on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:34:57 PM EST
    So why are you advocating wasting more paper on OHB but not HRC. She has not yet answered questions on many people's minds.

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    You sound scared! (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by ivs814 on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:43:06 PM EST
    Your candidate cannot survive the scrutiny Hillary has had to endure for the last 15 years and you know it.  So you want your candidate to be "left alone" because it's not fair.  Grow up!  You're in the big leagues and you better brace yourself because the scrutiny is coming and crying about "wasting paper" is a loser's argument.

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    Not My Candidate (none / 0) (#59)
    by squeaky on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 02:14:11 PM EST
    You seem irrational. You advocate asking OHB about things whose only function would be to make him look bad, (do you still beat your wife) but asking HRC about her husband's past is off limits. Hypocrite at best, a cultist at worst.

    Why would anyone but a GOPer want to embarrass a Dem over something so trivial. And yes if either question comes up for HRC or OHB during the GE it will blow up in the face of the GOP slimers, imo.

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    wait a minute (none / 0) (#84)
    by Kathy on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:06:40 PM EST
    you are saying that because a person is a democrat, we should just vote for them and not ask questions about their judgment?

    That's not what I call a democracy.  They voted the same way in Russia last week.

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    Not Surprising Twist (none / 0) (#86)
    by squeaky on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:17:16 PM EST
    Of what I said, coming from you. Considering you have never questioned HRC judgment on anything, you are much better example of the russian voter you portray.

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    Have you read my comments on this issue (none / 0) (#49)
    by Florida Resident on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:43:22 PM EST
    I think this is a non-issue.  A defense lawyers pre-trial parry and an MSM who loves to create controversy.  But I don't agree with asking that HRC be asked anything either on issues such as this.  If someone did something illegal let the prosecutors bring charges and prove it.  If not I wish we could just discuss issues.  Other than that we need to lighten up.

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    Agreed (none / 0) (#87)
    by squeaky on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:19:31 PM EST
    Sorry to assume you were advocating handing OHB a list on this non-issue.

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    Yup, this story ... (none / 0) (#2)
    by Robot Porter on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 11:50:24 AM EST
    looks like a light snack, rather than a meal.

    But, to torture my metaphor, I think Clinton supporters can dine out on for a few days.

    Unless there is some dark secret conspiracy (none / 0) (#5)
    by Florida Resident on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:02:12 PM EST
    by the conservatives to bring Mr Obama down.   You know first the Conservative Canadian Government now the Bush Prosecutors hmmmmmmmmm : D how Rovian

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    Does this involve the Masons ... (none / 0) (#6)
    by Robot Porter on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:04:39 PM EST
    or the trilateral commission?

    ;)

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    please stay on topic (none / 0) (#19)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:26:21 PM EST
    thanks

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    One has to wonder: (none / 0) (#4)
    by scribe on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 11:59:24 AM EST
    (a) why he's now a former prosecutor (any number of good, or not good, reasons);
    (b) why ABC has decided to run with this at all.  Other than being a pretty reliable outlet for the Repubs, I mean.

    One also has to remember this falls into the "anything is possible" box of stories.  When I was a first-year lawyer, I submitted Demands for Admissions to an adversary in a civil case.  These are a device (only available in civil cases) in which one party is entitled to demand that the other party either admit or deny that certain facts are true.  It's used to cut down on the number of facts which need be proven at trial.

    One of them (I was proud of my drafting) read:  "Admit that it is possible that [fact X] is true."

    The response I got has stuck with me about 20 years:  "Defendant admits that anything is possible."

    That's where this story belongs.

    Something of a sticky wicket (none / 0) (#21)
    by Anne on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:29:31 PM EST
    for both Obama and Rezko, don't you think?  This is clearly about more than just the purchase of a house - it's about financing politicians and the quid pro quo that may have accompanied it, and the question seems to be, what did Obama know about it?

    He can't say that he knew more, even if he did, because that gets Obama in a heap of trouble.  If he says he didn't know, and Rezko says he did, there's that trouble again.

    As for the sale of the house, I think there are all kinds of aspects to it which do not, at this point, appear to be illegal, but certainly don't smell very good, and if judgment is going to be an issue in this campaign, I think it's legitimate to get answers to the questions now.

    I think the problem for Obama is that Rezko does not appear to have ever done much of anything out of the goodness of his heart; looking at the allegations in this case, one has to wonder why Obama, who claims the high ground on judgment, and was and is seeking to climb the political ladder on a national stage, sought out the involvement of a man whose business practices left enough to be desired to the point where, at the time of the house purchase, he was known to be under federal investigation.  Obama can call it boneheaded, but to assume that doing so should end the questions is either naive or arrogant; he has still failed to be transparent on that particular deal.

    One thing's for sure - there has been little in the way of distinguished reporting in this election season; while I do not condone ABC's stretching on this one, it is no more unfair than the execrable treatment Clinton has endured for months, and there's no reason why Obama should expect better.


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    AS (none / 0) (#42)
    by tek on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:30:50 PM EST
    an Illinoisan I can attest to the fact that Gov. Rod is in deep doodoo.  The fact that Obama's name keeps surfacing in connection with Rod is damaging.  At the very least, Obama has been running with a bad crowd in IL.

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    Is it possible to be in Illinois politics (none / 0) (#47)
    by scribe on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:39:57 PM EST
    and not run with a bad crowd?

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    Is it possible to be Gov of Illinois (5.00 / 1) (#80)
    by Steve M on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:00:17 PM EST
    and not go to jail?  Stay tuned.

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    Let it Develop (none / 0) (#7)
    by Athena on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:07:16 PM EST
    The unknown is how tarnished Obama will get as this all plays out.  Since Obama will not grant full interviews to discuss his Rezko ties, all the more reason to await the trial and what discovery uncovers.

    No party should settle for a nominee whose dealings with a political con man are starting to emerge only now.

    ALL kidding aside (none / 0) (#10)
    by Florida Resident on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:12:54 PM EST
    I think this should be a non-issue.  But it all depends on what our friends at the MSM make of it.  Hopefully we can just take the high road on this and keep on trucking.  (oops Aging Myself)

    I dunno (none / 0) (#15)
    by Kathy on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:21:22 PM EST
    a fuzzy land deal called Whitewater kept the Clintons tied up for years, and absolutely nothing came of the investigation, and they lost money on it.

    There has to be a thesis paper somewhere talking about manifest destiny and the American passion for land ownership and land-related debates.

    I think the question of whether this is an issue or not will depend on how the media plays it.  They are very, very good at making lemons out of lemonade.

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    But you know they loved to hate the Clintons (none / 0) (#18)
    by Florida Resident on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:26:10 PM EST
    So it's really a matter of how long the Obama love affair last with them.

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    I have to agree (none / 0) (#16)
    by Steve M on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:23:12 PM EST
    If Obama were forced to testify, he would obviously have to do everything within his power to throw Rezko under the bus, to make it clear that he is shocked, just shocked, by what has come out about Rezko's shady dealings.  Since Obama has no interest in helping Rezko publicly at this stage of the game, it would be crazy for Rezko's lawyers to subpoena him unless his testimony were absolutely, positively critical to the defense.

    agreed (none / 0) (#17)
    by Turkana on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:24:14 PM EST
    shoddy work from abc.

    If you were Rezko.. (none / 0) (#22)
    by Polkan on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:35:54 PM EST
    .. what could be the worst possible outcome of Obama's testimony, in the context of conviction?

    I think Rezko has every interest to have Obama testify, to the purity of their real estate deal to campaign contributions etc.

    actually (none / 0) (#23)
    by Kathy on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:39:30 PM EST
    the real estate deal was in Rezko's wife's name, so there isn't a direct link there.  Unless she was indicted as well?

    The campaign contributions are a question that should be addressed.  And wasn't Rezko a staff member on one of Obama's campaigns?

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    woops (none / 0) (#25)
    by Kathy on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:48:00 PM EST
    can't find where it says Rezko was a staff member, just a powerful fundraiser.

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    Rezko's wife is becoming an issue (none / 0) (#33)
    by DaleA on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:10:39 PM EST
    according to MYDD postings, she bought the land at a time Rezko was pleading poverty and no money. There was an asset search for Rezko's money. Where did these funds come from? And where did the money from the sale of the lot go? It appears that there is an issue of conceling assets coming into play.

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    She got a bank loan (none / 0) (#53)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:59:14 PM EST
    The price was $625k or so, she got a loan from a bank (Mutual Harvey or something like that) for $500k. There are questions about where she got the $100k plus down payment, and whether it came from her husband though a loan from Auchi or someone else, but that doesn't have anything to do with Obama.

    Again, Obama's land deal is not an issue in Rezko's trial. Rezko's political contributions are an issue.

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    Bank loan? (none / 0) (#57)
    by Foxx on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 02:06:13 PM EST
    How could people in such dire straits get a mortgage? Auchi again?

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    It's really pretty simple - (none / 0) (#66)
    by scribe on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 02:39:09 PM EST
    (1) you fill out the loan app (honestly, even).
    (2) the bank looks at the value of the property which will secure the loan/mortgage.
    (3) if (a) the loan to value ratio is acceptable to the bank and
    (b) the bank figures you can make the monthly payments (whether they require you to pay your other creditors or not, is another question), then
    (4) you get the loan.

    A lot of times, especially when the borrower is in sketchy straits, this is what's called "loan-to-own" from the bank's perspective.

    What the terms and conditions are that the sketchy borrower will get - that's another story.  She might (and I dunno) have gotten a mortgage, but at 14% or something equally egregious.


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    But Mrs. Rezko owned no property (none / 0) (#70)
    by Cream City on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 02:43:51 PM EST
    at that time, per the Chicago press coverage. That's why her mortgage is looking odd.

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    Perhaps you're forgetting (or I am) that (none / 0) (#73)
    by scribe on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 02:50:35 PM EST
    the mortgage loan for the property would be secured by the property being purchased.

    If what you seem to imply (that she needed to own other property prior to getting a mortgage on this parcel) were true, then there would be no first-time home buyers, would there?

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    Now, I have been a first-time buyer (none / 0) (#76)
    by Cream City on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 02:54:53 PM EST
    quite recently, and I needed more than the property itself, more than the down payment; I also needed other assets. Perhaps she had them, as you say.

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    She made over $50K (none / 0) (#71)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 02:44:09 PM EST
    from the lot. 14% would have been a gift and bargain.

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    That's why some people don't shrink (none / 0) (#74)
    by scribe on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 02:52:18 PM EST
    at mortgages like that:  they might have a deal working in which they know they can make a profit that makes the high rate do-able.

    Superior knowledge is the basis of arbitrage, I guess.

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    Obama says not (none / 0) (#77)
    by Cream City on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 02:55:59 PM EST
    and that they paid exactly a sixth of the cost of the lot for a sixth of the lot, per his 2006 interview with the Chi press linked here -- at least, as best I read it. You see otherwise?

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    and what she sold the other 5/6 for, she grossed about $54K profit.

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    Btw, a difference in price (none / 0) (#79)
    by Cream City on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 02:57:40 PM EST
    within so short a time is not something to talk about lightly -- it can be construed as property-flipping. And I am sure that is not what happened here.

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    I think that is a pretty good description (none / 0) (#83)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 03:03:51 PM EST
    of the Mrs. Rezko's activity.

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    Joseph Aramanda (none / 0) (#46)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:39:33 PM EST
    In my view. I think Obama makes the Government's case on the campaign contribution issue. Amaranda gave $10,000 from an alleged improper finders' fee scheme to Obama's Senate campaign, allegedly at the direction of Rezko because Rezko was maxed out on campaign contribution limits and couldn't donate in his own name.  Also, Rezko asked Obama to hire Aramanda's son as an intern (which Obama did, but again, he didn't have reason to suspect the contribution from Aramanda wasn't legit and the son worked there only five weeks.)

    From the Chicago Tribune:

    U.S. District Court Judge Amy St. Eve, who is presiding over Rezko's trial, told prosecutors they could introduce evidence to support allegations that Rezko used straw men to make political contributions on his behalf.

    In her ruling, St. Eve said the government contends that Rezko directed business associates Joseph Aramanda and Elie Maloof to make contributions to an unnamed political candidate in late 2003 and 2004 because Rezko had already contributed the maximum legal amount.

    The only candidate Maloof and Aramanda contributed to during that time frame was Obama, then running for the U.S. Senate in Illinois. Maloof and Aramanda each gave $10,000 to Obama's campaign.

    ....Aramanda is a Glenview businessman whose son received a coveted summer internship in Obama's Capitol Hill office in 2005.

    The judge's ruling is here. (pdf). It outlines the Government's allegation that the money Amaranda contributed came from an illegal finders' fee:

    The government has moved to admit evidence that Rezko used other individuals to make politicalcontributions. As noted above, Glencoe Capital paid a $375,000 fee to Sheldon Pekin for the TRS investment in Glencoe. A chunk of that fee went to Aramanda, and Rezko allegedly directed Aramanda to provide the money to others. The government contends that Aramanda used some of it - at Rezko's direction - to make a political contribution because Rezko had already donated the maximum amount allowed by law and he could not make the contribution himself. In order to establish Rezko's identity as the person behind
    this payment and to establish his knowledge of the contribution and control over the money, the government seeks to introduce evidence that just months before Rezko directed Aramanda to make the political contribution, Rezko directed Elie Maloof to donate for the same reason.

    This evidence is admissible pursuant to Rule 404(b) because it is evidence of Rezko's identity as the person behind the payment from the charged conduct, and it is relevant to his knowledge of, and control over, the payment from the charged Glencoe Capital finder's fee. Defendant's attack on the credibility of the witnesses who will testify regarding it is an issue for the jury. See Green, 258 F.3d at 694. ....It is also direct evidence of the allegation in the Indictment that "Rezko raised significant amounts of money
    for certain Illinois politicians." (R. 96-1, Indictment ¶ 1i).

    In addition, Rezko allegedly previously directed Aramanda and Maloof to make other political contributions. For the same reasons, this evidence is admissible.



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    Obama' s testimony would (none / 0) (#67)
    by MKS on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 02:39:58 PM EST
    appear to be irrelevent and at best cumulative...

    The question is did Rezko use strawmen....Obama can merely say, yup, I got the contribution.  You can prove that from the records....The credibility issue is regarding the "defendant's" attack on prosecution witnesses....who appear to be Aramanda or Maloof....Nothing about Obama....The issue is the apparent testimony of these guys that Rezko was trying to get around campaign finance laws.  I don't see any obvious reference to how Obama could bolster any prosecution position that the contributions were dirty.

    Jeralyn, there is no basis to say that Obama supports the prosection's case....Has Fitzgerald listed him on his witness list?  Has any court ruling mentioned Obama?

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    I didn't say Obama supports the govts case (none / 0) (#72)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 02:50:27 PM EST
    I said if Rezko were to call him as a witness, Obama might make the government's case on the political allegation involving Amaranda-- it has nothing to do with what Obama wants to do. It does not require Obama to know the contribution was dirty. I said Obama had no reason to know that.

    Again, the point of this post is that there is no evidence or reason to believe Obama will be called as a witness by Rezko as the ABC pundit pontificicated. He will tell Rezko he doesn't help him and it's risky because his testimony for Rezko could end up helping the Government make its case.

    MSK, you've already been limited to four comments today on two different threads. Now you are miscasting my writing. Please leave now.

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    Nothing To See Here (none / 0) (#24)
    by BDB on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:45:15 PM EST
    This seems like typical lawyer smoke blowing and nothing substantive.  Rezko may become more embarrassing for Obama or it may not, but nothing in this "news" article indicates that one way or the other.

    I share your skepticism that Rezko will call Obama as a witness.  There's no point to it unless they know Obama will be friendly and I doubt that's the signals Obama's team is sending precisely because I assume he'd rather undergo multiple rounds of oral surgery than be a witness at this trial.

    Clinton campaign (none / 0) (#26)
    by Kathy on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 12:54:47 PM EST
    put out a list of questions for Obama to answer re: Rezko.  Finally, they are learning how to spin this.

    LINK

    Sigh. Doing media's work for them (none / 0) (#30)
    by Cream City on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:08:22 PM EST
    again, but somebody has got to do it -- and it ought to have been Obama's campaign, to get this behind him.

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    And Obama bears no responsibility (none / 0) (#29)
    by Cream City on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:06:37 PM EST
    for this? Uh huh. He could have come forward, with his famed "transparency," and cleared up a lot about the house, the side lot purchase, etc. I truly think it is not that bad for him, nothing illegal, so all he had to do was release records, answer questions, and move on before this opening court date. And really, read the comments. There is little glee here, and it was harnessed immediately. And the diarist made clear from the start, as a lawyer, that there is nothing here, no doubt, except perhaps grandstanding by a lawyer lacking . . . well, experience. As for the media, yes, they're going to cover it -- and that was not going to be up to Clinton. Again, see first paragraph re what Obama could have done by now. I do hope he does so soon, so that he and his family can enjoy their home.

    Has he not been interviewed (none / 0) (#36)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:20:54 PM EST
    about the house and side lot purchase already?

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    yes (none / 0) (#37)
    by Florida Resident on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:22:59 PM EST
    You do realize (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by Anne on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 02:00:40 PM EST
    that your link is to an article from November of 2006, right?

    In this day of the 24-hour news cycle, an article that is 15 months old is not particularly current.

    Just in the last couple of weeks, Obama added that he and Rekzo had toured the property before going through with it - that was a new detail, which makes some of us wonder what other details there are that have not been revealed.

    There's Michelle Obama's involvement as a member of the Landmarks Commission board.

    There's the question of who paid for the subdivision, the surveys, etc. that were needed in order to carve what was one lot into two, and still maintain the zoning that came with preferential tax treatment - subdivision costs are usually borne by the property owner, not the buyer.

    How is it that Obama managed to get the most valuable property at $300,000 below asking price, but Rita R