The Malign Acceptance Of Sexism - Bill Maher Version

By Big Tent Democrat

Speaking for me only.

VastLeft writes about Bill Maher's version:

Bill Maher: I’m not trying to be sexist here, but I’m just saying that women try a lot of different tacks when they’re in arguments.

Harry Shearer: Do you remember the website in the 90s , where it was all her different hairstyles?

Maher: Well, hairstyles.

Harry Shearer: Yes, but now there’s going to be a website with all her different personalities.

Maher: Well, we made a montage, actually. Just to show you that, just — I’m not being sexist — I’m just saying that men, when we argue, we’re kind of a one-trick pony, we try our one thing, and then we . . . sulk when we don’t get our way. [Plays a clip of Hillary, misty-eyed at a campaign event]

Maher: But look at Hillary Clinton. Because the first thing a woman does, of course, is cry. [Affecting a dramatic, teary voice] “I just want to be happy. Why can’t you just love me?”

Maher: And then they go to sweet talking.

[Plays a clip of Hillary complimenting Obama at a recent debate]

Maher: “You’re the best thing that ever happened to me! And you look so handsome in that tie!”

[Plays a clip of Hillary saying “shame on you” about Obama’s “Harry and Louise” brochure]

Maher: And then they throw an anger fit totally unrelated to anything. “Stay home and watch the game. See if I care.”

[Plays a clip of Hillary mocking Obama’s soaring rhetoric]

Maher: And when it doesn’t work, they bring out the sarcasm. “Oh, I’m just a woman, I couldn’t possibly understand the issues like you could.” Don’t write me, please ladies, don’t write me.

Maybe this was parody? If so, Hitch did not get that joke:

Christopher Hitchens: And then if you say “whine, whine, whine,” they say that’s sexist.

All righty then. Nice work there Bill.

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    Hitchens made another bad comment (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by diplomatic on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 07:40:10 AM EST
    He talked about Obama growing into his role, gaining wisdom along the way yada yada but then he says that she (Hillary) is the opposite...

    That she was "shriveling."

    Implying the wicked witch of the west I think because he said "if you know what I mean" after he said it.

    Anyway, words can't fully explain the nastiness but here's the link to the Youtube video:


    It's somewhere in that big mess of a panel discussion...

    Hitchens? (5.00 / 5) (#2)
    by Lou Grinzo on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 07:46:04 AM EST
    Didn't we scrape him off the bottom of our shoe and discard him some time back?

    Just checking...


    I think a lot of these media whores.... (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by Maria Garcia on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 07:59:55 AM EST
    ...are going to "hitch" themselves onto the Obama wagon in order to be "cool" again. Look at Andrew Sullivan.

    take a whole lot more than (5.00 / 4) (#7)
    by kenoshaMarge on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 08:35:58 AM EST
    hitching himself onto Obama's bandwagon to make Sullivan "cool". I don't know if there is a "cool" implant but if he's looking for one he should try getting an "ethics" implant at the same time. But that probably would never occur to the slimy cretin.

    When someone "hates" someone as much as Sullivan hates Senator Clinton then we shouldn't have to listen to his opinion. Unless you like listening to biased opinions by people that make no attempt to be fair, honest, or in his case quite frankly, rational.


    Sullivan is one of the worst (5.00 / 3) (#13)
    by lily15 on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 11:00:20 AM EST
    He tells everyone he is voting and has voted for Ron Paul...and then has the audacity to continue to promote Obama as though he had voted for him.  Audacity is a word that should be paired with hypocrisy with these jerks. And the sexism is so outrageous that I hope it will lead to declining ratings.  Bill Maher is having male only panels and is becoming a real problem for a lot of women, let alone a lot of Hillary supporters.  After all, we found out a few weeks ago that Maher was actually backing McCain in 2000 before Bush won the nomination...How strange then that he went from McCain to Nader????  Gore was clearly closer to McCain in world outlook than Nader.  Maher...another lying hypocrite. To hell with them all.  There will be serious repercussions to this sexism after the election. A lot of people have been outed...as sexist...and it's not funny.  On the other hand...there have been the  men who have stood strongest against sexism...BTD, vastleft, eriposte, lambert...Larry Johnson, Joe Wilson..and others...do remind me of the others...(Tavis Smiley has been a stand out as well) Those men are making an indelible impression as well.

    Flip flop (5.00 / 4) (#4)
    by MaryGM on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 08:00:55 AM EST
    I love how Bill Maher now loves "on the job training." For years this was his biggest criticism of Bush - that he woke up from a drunken stupor in his 40's, played governor for 1 1/2 terms and then ran for president. Now this form of "experience" is desirable in a candidate?

    As for the sexism, well, are we really surprised?  This is the guy who openly and shamelessly declared his disgust toward women who nurse in public.

    I have watched Maher religiously (none / 0) (#11)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 10:32:43 AM EST
    since his arrival on HBO but frequently noticed that the oversexed yet wounded Catholic boy still hasn't matured enough to understand sexism and still loves to participate in it.  I haven't watched him this season as I can no longer stomach him.  He can really be right on other social/political issues, but not sexism and I was SUPER unimpressed with his nursing in public comment........he can't see a breast without being arroused and complains about our nation being sexually repressed while openly displaying the symptoms of the sexually repressed.  I guess he's still busy using women to the point that he's never taken the time to appreciate one.  I am no longer one of his viewers though, seems he's lost his perspective because a woman walked into the room.

    Why sexist talk is more acceptable (5.00 / 5) (#5)
    by esmense on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 08:05:08 AM EST
    I've said this elsewhere but I'll say it again: Sexist talk is much more open and prevalent than racist talk because women aren't feared.

    We live in a culture in which the kind of obscene incarceration rates that young black men endure is more acceptable, that is, less decried and condemned as outrageous and racist, by white politicians and mainstream commentators, than suggesting that an African American political opponent's claims about the consistency of his anti-war stance is a "fairy tale."

    Now that is genuinely absurd. And morally disgusting. So why is it so?

    Because a great deal of liberal and elite emphasis on "politically correct" speech is in fact an expression of hidden (unconscious?) racism. That is; many whites are afraid to offend blacks because they are, at heart, afraid of them.

    Once you recognize and acknowledge that fear, which is such an essential part of racial politics, it becomes easier to understand why we incarcerate African Americans at an immoral rate; yet, go into hysterics about language that may offend.

    And why the woman in this race is being treated, verbally, like a punching bag.

    Women need to exercise economic punishment (none / 0) (#15)
    by lily15 on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 11:06:18 AM EST
    for this abuse.  Slowly, perhaps, they will realize this. I continue to advocate notifying advertisers of the reprehensible behavior of the sexists populating the shows they support.

    Haven't been watching this season (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by andgarden on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 08:32:33 AM EST
    I see that I haven't missed much.

    Nope (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 10:34:12 AM EST
    I tried at first but it got too painful and I don't use my television time to experience repeated pain.

    Me too, tracy (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by auntmo on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 12:07:17 PM EST
    Used  to love his  show  until  several  weeks  ago he  was promoting  Obama  and  literally  said,  "We  owe  Blacks   a lot more   than we  owe  women."  

    Haven't  watched him  since.  

    But  heard  from  a  friend  that  every single  panel  he's  had  on his  show  since  that  comment   has  been  all  men.    


    I thought (none / 0) (#8)
    by kenoshaMarge on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 08:36:46 AM EST
    he jumped the Shark quite some time ago.

    maher, hmmm! i have to wonder (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by hellothere on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 10:09:20 AM EST
    just what there is about women that scares him. on second thought i don't want to know. i haven't had breakfast yet.

    I have completely stopped watching his show (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by athyrio on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 10:17:42 AM EST
    I find it totally disgusting....If people were that blatent about racism on TV they would be in big trouble...That really proves that sexism is far more rampant in this country...

    As vastleft wrote: (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Lora on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 11:30:05 AM EST
    Now, can you imagine someone -- especially an iconic, progressive someone -- doing a routine about Obama's ethnicity, rattling off a series of unabashedly pejorative stereotypes about the way black people act and speak? Even to satirize this load of iron-my-shirts misogyny, I couldn't possibly go there. So I'm kinda disappointed in you, Bill. Because sometimes politically incorrect is just plain incorrect.


    He doesn't have to try. (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by Iphie on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 11:35:39 AM EST
    After the third time he said "I'm not trying to be sexist here..." I changed the channel. His show came on last night after the weekly In Treatment catchup, and I didn't change it immediately (I should have). I long ago stopped watching, even though he is occasionally correct the rest of the time he is smug, obnoxious, and as has been clear for years, a mysogynist. I have an acquaintance who was a PA on one of his previous shows who has stories that would make your skin crawl. Stories that are not appropriate for a family blog such as this, but that reflect a longstanding disgust for women.

    Could you imagine if someone prefaced criticism of Obama with the disclaimer "I'm not trying to be racist here" and then went on to promote a string of racist tropes?

    Indeed, Bill Maher doesn't have to "try" to be sexist -- it comes as naturally to him as breathing air.

    It was very sad (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by BernieO on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 04:27:26 PM EST
    when I expressed my surprise that the media (and others) were so blatantly sexist that my 27 year old daughter shrugged and said, "I told my friends when the campaign began that this country would elect a black man long before they would elect a woman." She isn't even surprised at the level of sexism (e.g. castration comments) on mainstream outlets like MSNBC. Where is the outrage?

    Rage (none / 0) (#14)
    by Foxx on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 11:00:27 AM EST
    is my response to the amount of woman hating shown on TV during this campaign.

    55% of the show hosts on news/commentary should be women. Then perhaps the few women allowed on would not be humiliating themselves trashing Hillary. Any guess when we'll meet that goal?

    Women need to riot.

    There really isn't that much difference (none / 0) (#16)
    by dk on Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 11:11:34 AM EST
    between Maher and Tweety in my opinion.  They both pretty much use the same schtick to get ratings.

    C'mon guys..... (none / 0) (#21)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 09:45:20 AM EST
    Maher is obviously a self loathing man-hater.  He called us men all sulking one-trick ponies who can't match the complexity of a woman's argument.  

    I was this close to getting offended, then I realized he's a comedian.

    the other day for some household item or another, and my wife pointed out that the "plot" of the commercial - smart wife with a cute and lovable, but dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks husband - has been a standard for as long as she's been watching TV.

    I was this close to rioting, then I realized they're just dopey commercials.


    Commercials ain't the half of it.... (none / 0) (#23)
    by kdog on Mon Mar 03, 2008 at 01:32:27 PM EST
    seen a network sitcom in the last 10 years?  Same stereotypes working there...

    I'm amazed I can get through the day without all my righteous rage getting the best of me:)