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    Some fireworks.... (5.00 / 5) (#23)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 02:08:02 PM EST
    in the courtroom in the case of some NYPD goons allegedly sodomizing some poor slob.  Link

    The victim was called a f*gg*t by the NYPD supporters...talk about adding insult to injury.  He handles it with class though and blew the hecklers kisses.

    Mad kudos to Transit Officer Kevin Maloney for coming forward to substantiate the victim's claim...otherwise this was all set to be swept under the rug.

    Just saw this on eBay: (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 03:33:33 PM EST
    US Senate Seat

    One soon to be vacant US Senate Seat.

    Junior #@!&$! Senator, Illinois.


    Might accept no-show corporate board postitions for me and my wife instead of cash.

    Call me anytime with questions.

    I love talking on the #@!&$! phone.



    Too funny. I love it! (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by vml68 on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 03:53:26 PM EST
    embarassing (none / 0) (#45)
    by Jlvngstn on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 04:39:56 PM EST
    to say the least.  We have been one of the more corrupt states in the last 50 years.  I did not like Jim Edgar, but he was as straight as they come and would love to see him as our governor again.

    Topinka, the candidate on the right was less palatable for a variety of reasons than blago, ala Ted Stevens it would appear.

    I did not vote for either, but not because I thought Blago was corrupt (I actually thought he was getting a bum rap and it would appear that I am naive here) I thought Blago was mean spirited and petty.  When I read the complaint I was shockingly appalled.  Nearly every one of my friends was in the "i told you so" moment.

    I like Fitz, I hope he sticks around here for a while a cleans things up.  I don't normally care for prosecutors but he seems like a straight arrow and I like him......


    Fitz should stick around (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by zyx on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 08:45:21 PM EST
    and why not?

    Plenty of work. High-profile work. Lots of work for an earnest cleaner-upper.


    J my man... (none / 0) (#60)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 09:43:13 PM EST
    don't be too embarassed, my state runs the only horse book in the history of horse books to lose money...those are stickier fingers than back when the mob ran Vegas.

    NY, Chitown...we don't half arse nuthin', especially corruption:)


    Whut? (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by lilburro on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 09:01:06 PM EST
    Why do people do this?

    Influential Democrat asks Obama to keep spy chiefs

    Reyes said he had recommended to Obama's transition team that CIA Director Michael Hayden and Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell be kept in place for at least six months.

    "There's got to be some continuity, and the leadership of both the CIA and the DNI is going to be pivotal to keeping us safe and secure," Reyes said. "I made a recommendation that they stay on during the transition so that there would be a period of time that there would be overlap."

    Because OMG!! whoever Obama hires would be really scary and noone would follow them and we need to stick to the status quo, I mean center!

    Why I don't like Donna Brazile (5.00 / 1) (#67)
    by Fabian on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 08:21:35 AM EST
    not personally because I've never met the woman.

    But as the chair of the DNC, her performance reeks.

    As the spokesperson for the DNC, she's an abject failure.

    The Bush administration has had some successes.  One of them was a talented line up of spin artists and fast talkers.  Condi Rice, every single White House press secretary, Donald Rumsfeld and a few others.  (That woman whose name I can't recall.  She came and left and returned briefly.)

    They could make a lagoon of liquid manure sound like untapped gold mine.  They could say the most preposterous things with a straight face.  They did everything in their power to protect the Brand, whether it was the Office of the POTUS or the our Military Success in Iraq.

    When you are the public face of some organization, your job is to promote the organization and defend the brand.  You have to project confidence, competence, sincerity, optimism.  You have to put the best face on any situation.  You have to present the most optimistic view on any scenario.  Concern is allowable, doubt is verboten.  You have to spin like a PR master.  If you want to play party politics, you do it behind closed doors not in public.

    Brazile made me cringe more often than not.  She was not who I want to be the public face of the DNC.  "It scares me."  O.M.G.  She was talking not about something the Bush administration was proposing or about some Republican bill but her very own party!  She's been doing this job for years and been doing poor quality media appearances for years.  

    I do not know why she is the public face of the DNC.  Find someone who can do the job competently and let them make the (paid) media appearances.  There must be qualified people who need a job.  We could use a Change.

    (For humor - check out Glenn Greenwald's: Change, Change, Change, Continuity!)

    See Adam B's FP post at DK (none / 0) (#1)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 11:38:10 AM EST
    on the indictment and read the links re RICO and mail fraud.  

    Big day for NY Baseball.... (none / 0) (#2)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 12:26:19 PM EST
    K-Rod to the Mets, CC to the Yanks...it must really, really suck to be a fan of a small market team...it just ain't fair.

    Though, as the Mets never cease to show us, high payroll does not alway equal success...but it sure does make the offseason exciting!

    9 weeks or so till pitchers and catchers.

    The Mets will mess it up (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Steve M on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 12:34:04 PM EST
    That team is simply not allowed to have a reliable bullpen.  It would be like an Illinois governor not going to jail.  Simply doesn't happen.

    K-Rod will get attacked by a moose on Opening Day and miss the season or something of the sort.


    On the contrary (5.00 / 4) (#26)
    by CoralGables on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 02:20:45 PM EST

    it must really, really suck to be a fan of a small market team

    There is nothing more enjoyable than seeing teams like the Yankees and Mets shell out well over a hundred million in payroll...and miss the playoffs.


    There's no recession... (none / 0) (#3)
    by desertswine on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 12:32:30 PM EST
    in Big Apple baseball.

    Not when the taxpayers... (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 12:50:18 PM EST
    foot part of the bill for the stadiums, and in the case of the Mets part of the bill for Citibank's naming rights.

    Ah yes, (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by desertswine on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 02:17:02 PM EST
    two spankin' brand new stadiums.

    Jeebus... (none / 0) (#28)
    by desertswine on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 02:32:36 PM EST
    Wasn't Billy Wagner to be the Mets' (none / 0) (#19)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 01:19:01 PM EST
    supercloser in perpetuity?

    He was.... (none / 0) (#20)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 01:23:45 PM EST
    until his arm went last season...not sure if they even expect him back at all next year.

    Maybe Trevor's agent should contact (none / 0) (#55)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 08:33:50 PM EST
    the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

    Just how many closers do the Mets... (none / 0) (#70)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 09:29:55 AM EST
    ...need and are they so hard-up that they go out and get a closer from the Mariners?  The Mariners!



    Here's a 16 yr old (none / 0) (#72)
    by desertswine on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 10:38:12 AM EST
    Japanese knuckleballer that the Mets might want to go after.

    Looks like a good prospect and was inspired by Tim Wakefield.


    I heard on NPR yesterday (none / 0) (#4)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 12:33:19 PM EST
    that Jimmy Carter wants regime change in Kenya and supports this regime change being done by the US if necessary.

    I like Jimmy... (5.00 / 3) (#10)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 12:49:05 PM EST
    as much as I can like a politician...but if he wants regime change in any foreign country he's welcome to pick up a gun and start a coup wherever he likes.  I just don't think he has the right to demand other Americans to potentially die for it or pay for it.  Though he's welcome to ask for volunteers and donations to form a modern day Abraham Lincoln Brigade.

    kdog, I misunderstood Carter's comments. (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 01:08:48 PM EST
    He's apparently talking about neighboring countries forcing the regime change. Sorry for the miscue.

    Point still stands... (none / 0) (#25)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 02:17:38 PM EST
    how nice of Jimmy to ask other Africans to fight and maybe die for Zimbabwe.

    I think it is up to the people of Zimbabwe to rid themselves of Mugabe.  No easy task I know...it would likely cost a lot of blood.  And very easy for me to say sitting in relatively free and safe America.  But there is really no other option...you only have the rights you can defend.  The people must revolt and pull a Marie Antoinette on Mr. Mugabe...it is the only way.


    Yep. (none / 0) (#30)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 02:41:51 PM EST
    How far does your opposition go? (none / 0) (#12)
    by andgarden on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 12:55:13 PM EST
    Rwanda? Yugoslavia?

    Historically (none / 0) (#13)
    by CST on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 01:03:54 PM EST
    It went as far as Germany, we didn't officially join there until we were attacked.

    I don't agree with that decision obviously, but there also has to be a point where you DO draw the line.  It's easy to make that list an impossible task.

    Burma, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, China...


    Listening (seemingly forever) to (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 01:24:58 PM EST
    Team of Rivals.  Finally reached the inauguration, fall of Ft. Sumter (due to conflicting military orders) and a letter sent, I think by Secretary of State Seward telling Russia, France and Spain to butt out and if they didn't, the U.S. would declare war against them.  Seward didn't run this letter by Lincoln first.

    Yikes! (none / 0) (#35)
    by Fabian on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 03:09:09 PM EST
    Like a nation in civil war needs another war?

    So then what happened?


    Lincoln modified--but I've (none / 0) (#38)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 03:27:10 PM EST
    got, probably 15 more discs, so I don't know yet!

    You are (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by ruffian on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 04:58:47 PM EST
    so going to hate the ending...

    My American Cousin, right? (none / 0) (#49)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 05:06:14 PM EST
    Actually, despite numerous studyings of European conquistadors, my secondary schooling never actually included studying the Civil War--just the lead up and aftermath.  I'm learning alot from this book.

    A Stillness at Appomattox (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by Cream City on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 09:11:26 AM EST
    by Bruce Catton is a beautiful book about a horrifying war, if you haven't read it.  I'm the farthest from a military historian, but I recommend it highly not only for learning that perspective on the war but also for how history ought to be written.  As the postmodernists put it, it's ye olde "narrative" history.  What a concept -- Catton was a storyteller.

    I like political history a la Team of Rivals, too, although it's elitist history.  But I never thought I'd be a fan of military history until I read it written so well.


    It's a very hard question (none / 0) (#15)
    by andgarden on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 01:07:17 PM EST
    I intentionally didn't go Godwin, but that's the 800 lb gorilla in this discussion

    I lean towards... (none / 0) (#18)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 01:11:58 PM EST
    not getting involved in any foreign conflicts...it always comes back to bite you in the arse.  That being said, if there is genocide going down I have no problem with modern day Abraham Lincoln Brigades trying to combat it on a strictly volunteer basis.  Though our military is volunteer, our soldiers volunteered to defend America, not any other nation.

    And I wouldn't want or expect Britain or China to come here to right our wrongs or fix our govt....that is our job.


    Hm? (none / 0) (#6)
    by Steve M on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 12:35:02 PM EST
    Kenya?  Do you mean Zimbabwe?

    If it's Zim., (none / 0) (#7)
    by andgarden on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 12:43:20 PM EST
    then South Africa will be putting the boots on the ground--8 years too late.

    I don't see where... (none / 0) (#9)
    by desertswine on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 12:48:49 PM EST
    Carter makes any mention of US involvement.

    Carter: African Leaders Must Pressure Mugabe


    Weird. Thanks. (none / 0) (#14)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 01:06:02 PM EST
    I got the impression yesterday from the actual interview (which is significantly different from the transcript, not that it matters on this particular point) that when he talked of "outside forces" and "military action" he was talking of US involvement.

    Re-listening to the interview it sounds like he's talking about military action from neighboring countries.


    Well, in fairness... (none / 0) (#27)
    by desertswine on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 02:20:50 PM EST
    its hard to imagine anything going on in the world that doesn't have US fingers somewhere in the pie, either economically or militarily..

    Oy. Yeah. Zimbabwe. (none / 0) (#8)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 12:44:16 PM EST
    That's what I get when I try to to type and talk on the phone at the same time...

    Speaking of NPR (none / 0) (#51)
    by akaEloise on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 05:42:42 PM EST
    About 7% of the staff were laid off today -- two of the less-popular programs, Day to Day and News and Notes, were axed entirely, many reductions elsewhere.
    The Washington Post has a story.
    Although listenership is up, corporate underwriting and foundation and endowment income are way down.

    I prefer Tavis Smiley (none / 0) (#66)
    by Fabian on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 05:03:08 AM EST
    to News and Notes, which has a distinct conservative slant.  That shouldn't be a surprise because the black community has a conservative slant.

    I'm not going to miss it.


    If only the insufferable Daniel Schorr (none / 0) (#75)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 01:37:41 PM EST
    was 86'd. He I wouldn't miss one iota.

    Book Sale (none / 0) (#16)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 01:07:32 PM EST
    A publisher friend of mine is having a holiday sale. 40% off on all books. They are a great small press.....  politics and more.. Worth a look.

    Seven Stories Press

    Some interesting looking... (none / 0) (#29)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 02:40:21 PM EST
    reads on there squeak...do they have a bookshop in NYC or any bookstores carry their titles that you know of?

    Most Good Stores (none / 0) (#31)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 02:45:04 PM EST
    Carry their titles. From Vonnegut, to CHomsky, to Coco FUsco's (a really interesitng artist), A Field Guide for Female Interrogators.

    Cheers... (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 02:53:30 PM EST
    "Are Prisons Obsolete?" by Angela Davis looks like one I would enjoy.  I keep hoping we will evolve past prisons...or at least the obscene prison populations we have now.

    I need to get busy reading...so many titles I've been meaning to get too.


    Yes (none / 0) (#34)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 03:04:16 PM EST
    Reading as part of becoming literate, is an endless task. To much to know too little time.

    Angela Davis rocks...


    Grand Central Winter (none / 0) (#36)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 03:16:16 PM EST
    Was one of their best sellers. A real page turner by Lee Stringer. My friend discovered him while reading "Street News" (remember that), while on the subway. Stringer was a crack addict living under the Grand Central terminal, ran out crack and started writing, could not stop. Street news took him on, most of the articles for a time were written by him. He had a stockpile of pens that were for makeshift crack pipes. He decided to put them to better use and became a writer.

    What a story... (none / 0) (#37)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 03:25:00 PM EST
    your friend does sound like one helluva human being for giving these writers a voice.  And I do vaguely remember Street News.

    I better stay of their site...the list of books to read just gets longer and longer.  

    I need to make a big score so I can become a full-time reader...I had 5 out of 6 in the pick six at Aqueduct last Saturday too...so close!  


    chomsky (none / 0) (#46)
    by Jlvngstn on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 04:41:30 PM EST
    being that they carry one of my favorite americans, I will be obliged to do my book shopping there based on your referral.  Thanks S.

    Nice (none / 0) (#47)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 04:52:54 PM EST
    Lots of Chomsky to choose from, and others.. They will appreciate your support.  Book business is not the most lucrative, and political books... um.. a little like dance and poetry as a business.  

    Maybe that will change.


    No Bookshop (none / 0) (#32)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 02:48:04 PM EST
    Of their own, save their site.  Just their office here in Manhattan. Great group of people, committed to making the world a better place.

    Today's CIA gossip (none / 0) (#22)
    by lilburro on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 01:28:38 PM EST

    Sources say that Obama's team is having trouble finding a potential CIA director who lacks politically incriminating links to controversial Bush Administration policies and yet commands the respect of the agency's rank and file.  Potential nominees include John Gannon, a Bush era Homeland Security official and Clinton-era intelligence officer and Jami Miscik, former chief of the CIA's directorate of analysis.  The New York Times reported that New York crisis management consultant Jack Devine, a former CIA chief of operations, is also a potential candidate.

    AP (from yesterday):


    John Gannon, former deputy director for intelligence at the CIA during the Clinton administration

    Jami Miscik, former head of CIA's analytical operations

    Steve Kappes, CIA's current No. 2

    Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., who now heads House Homeland Security subcommittee on intelligence.

    John McLaughlin, former interim CIA chief

    Kappes and Miscik in particular do not pass the smell test.  

    For ex:

    March 2002-Abu Zubaydah is captured in Pakistan. George Bush is briefed regularly by George Tenet on the details of Zubaydah's interrogation (see p. 22, State of War by James Risen). Cofer Black is in charge of the CIA's Counterterrorism Center and oversees the CIA's hunt for the terrorists. Zubaydah is interrogated in Thailand, where the sessions were filmed. He was waterboarded sometime in the May-June 2002 time frame. Enhanced interrogation methods were used and approval for them came from Jim Pavitt (see p. 21 of ABC News interview of former CIA case officer, John Kiriakou). Pavitt was the DDO (i.e., Deputy Director of Operations). Stephen Kappes, who currently serves as the Deputy Director of the CIA, was named Assistant Deputy Director of Operations in June 2002. Ron Suskind confirms Risen's report that the President and his National Security team were regularly briefed on the results of Zubaydah's torture sessions (see The One Percent Doctrine, pp. 111-115).

    Considering KSM was captured in 2003, and waterboarded, Kappes was obviously intimately involved with that.  So no Kappes.

    Bill proposed to end BCS system (none / 0) (#39)
    by Amiss on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 03:29:11 PM EST
    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Taking aim at a BCS system he said "consistently misfires," a member of Congress planned to introduce legislation Wednesday that would force college football to adopt a playoff to determine the national champion.

    Rep. Joe Barton of Texas, the ranking Republican on the House Energy and Commerce Committee, didn't specify what sort of playoff he wants -- only that the BCS should go.

    "In some years the sport's national championship winner was left unsettled, and at least one school was left out of the many millions of dollars in revenue that accompany the title," Barton said in a statement released ahead of the bill's introduction. "Despite repeated efforts to improve the system, the controversy rages on."

    He said the bill -- being co-sponsored by Reps. Bobby Rush, an Illinois Democrat, and Michael McCaul, a Texas Republican -- "will prohibit the marketing, promotion, and advertising of a postseason game as a 'national championship' football game, unless it is the result of a playoff system. Violations of the prohibition will be treated as violations of the Federal Trade Commission Act as an unfair or deceptive act or practice."


    good to know (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by cpinva on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 04:30:12 PM EST
    they've taken care of the economy, the wars, etc., and now have time to leisurely sit back and attend to minor issues.

    Bill proposed to end BCS system

    This one is for kdog (none / 0) (#42)
    by Steve M on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 04:12:09 PM EST
    Overheard at Penn Station:

    Cop: You gotta keep moving.
    Vagrant: But it's free...it's a free...
    Cop: No. It ain't.

    I had (none / 0) (#61)
    by kdog on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 09:58:15 PM EST
    seen something in the paper about them cracking down on the homeless in the stations.  Unfortunately the cop is right, it ain't a free country, or it ain't as free as I'd like it to be.

    At least it warmed up, wet out though.  It's f*cked up.


    Well (none / 0) (#62)
    by Steve M on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 11:57:21 PM EST
    As a distinguished former Mayor of this town once said, in a civilized country people do not sleep on the streets!

    a question for the attorneys: (none / 0) (#44)
    by cpinva on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 04:39:48 PM EST
    a friend informs me that she has a case of 10 years standing in GA. it has never been adjudicated, but was "dry-docketed". it was a minor felony. she wasn't represented by counsel, nor (according to her), was she ever mirandized.

    i would have thought the statute of limitations barred prosecution at this point, but she tells me she was informed that, because of the way it was handled, the statute hasn't run out, and it could be re-opened at any time, into perpetuity.

    does this sound right? frankly, though i'm no lawyer, it just didn't pass the smell test for me. aside from the obvious issues (i assume she is telling me the truth, i have no reason to believe otherwise), being able to hold something over your head, essentially forever, seems to fly in the face of the whole "closure" concept.

    Pirate Booty (none / 0) (#50)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 05:18:50 PM EST
    ANAHEIM -- Disneyland management has fired the four actors who played pirate Jack Sparrow because officials were worried about young female park-goers flashing the swashbuckling actors late at night, according to one former cast member.
    "They lost control when they saw Jack Sparrow," said former pirate Brandon Pinto, who left the role after a dispute with management a year ago. "This is a sexy, rock-star pirate."


    uh oh (none / 0) (#53)
    by jedimom on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 08:02:22 PM EST
    well I was kind of stunned when we came around a corner on Tom Sawyer Island and Jack Sparrow was standing there, the dude was kewt :0) But I did not flash him. My son told my hubby later I was all giggly over it and there were deep sighs and shakes of the head, what can I say I have always ahd a thing for pirates....

    lol (none / 0) (#54)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 08:06:37 PM EST
    Wow (none / 0) (#52)
    by squeaky on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 06:00:26 PM EST
    Second and third paragraph (none / 0) (#65)
    by oculus on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 01:57:02 AM EST
    of this very recent review made me sit up and take notice:  Carter/Carnegie

    Yes (none / 0) (#73)
    by squeaky on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 12:44:23 PM EST
    I do not know his early work either, but sounds like the Boulanger influence, not to mention style of the time. Glad he took the road not taken. I can take Stravinsky neo classical, but that is about it..

    BTW- WNYC has the live broadcast online


    That is heresy. Rite of Spring? (none / 0) (#74)
    by oculus on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 01:30:43 PM EST
    Heresy? (none / 0) (#76)
    by squeaky on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 02:01:29 PM EST
    I do not understand. Perhaps you misunderstood my point.

    In general, I am no fan of neoclassical music, although I do like Stravinsky's Historie du Soldat, Octet, Pulcinella, and other works from his neoclassical period.

    Never said I do not like Rite of Spring. It is undoubtedly one of the great pieces in the literature and without thinking too much I would say, probably Stravinsky's greatest work.


    I thought you wrote you (none / 0) (#77)
    by oculus on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 02:43:22 PM EST
    only liked neo-classical Stravinsky.  Sorry.

    Bad Writing (none / 0) (#78)
    by squeaky on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 02:47:32 PM EST
    On my part. Sry.

    Carter's First Symphony (none / 0) (#79)
    by squeaky on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 04:53:23 PM EST
    Is not for me. I listened to as much as I could bear.. Best that he dropped that and moved on to the string quartets 10 years later..

    Still Time for the Shredder? (none / 0) (#58)
    by lilburro on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 09:05:25 PM EST
    Obama Transition Team Pushing for Secret Legal Memos

    A senior Justice Department official said today that "99.8 percent" of the department's work with President-elect Barack Obama's transition team has gone smoothly. The 0.2 percent snag: The department has reservations about granting the team's request to review classified legal opinions related to secret CIA and National Security Agency programs.


    he Justice official said the department was reluctant to provide the opinions to Obama's team without permission from the two intelligence agencies whose activities they address. At the roundtable, Mukasey said OLC opinions are issued at the request of other agencies with their "own equity or interest in the information."

    "And so what we try to do is determine whether, and to what extent, we can clear that information and try to do it as quickly as we can so as to get it to the transition team so that they're aware of all the things that they need when they take over on the 21st," Mukasey said, according to a transcript provided by the department.


    The story explains that the dispute between Obama's team and the DOJ over the records has caught the attention of Williams & Connolly's Greg Craig (pictured), who has been named as the incoming White House counsel. The story cites an unnamed justice official as saying the agencies first want to sign off on any information disclosed to their new boss before turning over sensitive records.

    Are they delaying the inevitable?  Why would they hesitate to share this information?

    Apparently the CIA and NSA know that something isn't quite right with those memos...oh, but they don't expect to be prosecuted, oh no.

    This is funny. David Mamet (none / 0) (#59)
    by oculus on Wed Dec 10, 2008 at 09:12:20 PM EST
    to a request for his response to Gov. B.:


    Link is to Huff Post.

    Heisman Finalists (none / 0) (#63)
    by CoralGables on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 01:06:59 AM EST
    Only three invited to NY. Must be the economy.

    Tim Tebow - Florida
    Sam Bradford - Oklahoma
    Colt McCoy - Texas

    Rather shocking (to me at least), neither QB Graham Harrell or Wide Receiver Michael Crabtree from Texas Tech got an invite.

    Interesting. Heard Tebow (none / 0) (#64)
    by oculus on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 01:44:20 AM EST
    say after Saturday's game he would have to look at everyone's stats. to see who he thought should get the Heisman.  

    As a past winner... (none / 0) (#68)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 08:54:27 AM EST
    ...he has a vote--that is why he was checking the stats--to see who he "should" vote for.  

    I'll bet he votes for himself.


    I don't know. Son of missionaries, (none / 0) (#71)
    by oculus on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 10:00:51 AM EST
    spends his summer doing missionary work.  But he sure knows how to play the back-and-forth game with ESPN.