Obama: I Pushed The Wrong Button On Votes

Now this is a silly story. Buuut, just for a moment imagine if Hillary Clinton had said this:
I was not aware that I had voted no," [Obama] said that day in June 2002, asking that the record be changed to reflect that he "intended to vote yes." . . . Obama cast more than 4,000 votes. Of those, according to transcripts of the proceedings in Springfield, he hit the wrong button at least six times. . . . "I pressed the wrong button on that," he said.
Does anyone doubt it would be the top news for the next couple of days? The Media's hatred of the Clintons is outrageous and the way the so called progressive blogs have rolled over on this is awful. Consider this headline in the NYTimes:
Bill Clinton Accuses Obama Camp of Stirring Race Issue
Actually he accused the MEDIA of stirring the race issue. Why? Because they ran to him with Obama supporter Dick Hartpootlian's outrageous and false smear accusing Bill Clinton of playing the race and gender card and comparing him to Lee Atwater. You know where that part of the story appears in the NYTimes story? Graf 19!! I kid you not. What a ridiculous piece of journalism.


So can we expect some Dem leaders to call Barack Obama to complain about Dick Hartpootlian? Will Jim Clyburn publicly scold the Obama campaign for this? Personally, I am disgusted by these double standards. From the Media. From the blogs. And from so called Dem leaders. They are transparently phony in their "concern."
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    Obama is losing support (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by diplomatic on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 08:22:10 AM EST
    First of all let me say that this news comes from the charlatan Zogby, but pay attention in case others confirm:

    Zogby Daily Tracking in South Carolina

             1/20  1/21  1/22   1/23
    Obama     43    46    39     32  
    Clinton   28    26    22     25      
    Edwards   15    11    19     27

    Saw this on a diary over at MyDD.

    Take a look at that Edwards surge and that Obama collapse...   Clinton dipped but then seems to have gotten some of the Obama scraps that didn't go to Edwards on the last day.

    Again, polls... but interesting.  It might confirm that the new angry Obama is not wearing well.

    Zogby is not credible (none / 0) (#13)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 08:54:02 AM EST
    Zogby and his methods (none / 0) (#14)
    by diplomatic on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 09:01:01 AM EST
    Well I think he blindfolds himself and throws some darts at numbers on wall.

    But like you said elsewhere: if the numbers/trends are true, then Edwards might win SC.


    I think (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Judith on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 09:52:20 AM EST
    that would be nice.,,

    MOE (none / 0) (#36)
    by Tano on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 01:54:52 PM EST
    Why is the concept of a margin of error so hard to understand?

    The line now (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by andgarden on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 08:23:06 AM EST
    is that Bill Clinton is just supposed to shut up. Because, you know, he's destroying his own personal legacy by practicing politics.

    Stupid, Empty-Headed, Unsuited for High Office (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by xjt on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 09:45:32 AM EST
    That's what they would have called Hillary Clinton if she'd claimed to have "pushed the wrong button." I can just hear Tweety and Barnicle: "Maybe she'll push the wrong button and we'll all get nuked into a dust mote." Of course they're already calling her far worse names than the one I mentioned (see Digby's post from yesterday).

    "I was not aware that I voted no" would become a mantra, like "I supported it before I opposed it" or "it depends on what the meaning of is is."

    But Obama said it, not Hillary, so no problemo.

    No shame (none / 0) (#1)
    by Bob In Pacifica on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 08:15:25 AM EST
    Uglier and uglier.

    So unfair. Everybody hates the Clintons for no good reason. Boo hoo.

    Big Tent. Have you noticed that your reportage keeps driving people from the tent? I didn't think so. You don't even pretend to write about political positions of the candidates anymore.

    Now what position on what subject is supposed to make me want to vote for Clinton again?

    You are mistaken (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 08:19:36 AM EST
    if you believe I care if you vote for Clinton or Obama or Edwards.

    Vote for your favorite candidate.

    I am commenting on the issues that are of interest to me. There is no requirement that you read what I write.


    Driving people from the tent? (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by diplomatic on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 08:27:05 AM EST
    If anything I am noticing a substantial increase of activity here on Talkleft.  If I had to guess, I bet traffic here has been growing the past few days.

    You must not read Daily Kos if you find this blog to be unfair and ugly.


    I will weigh in (3.00 / 2) (#22)
    by Kathy on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 10:10:46 AM EST
    Because I have run screaming from Kos and others.  The anti-Hillary crap there is borderline sexist and openly hostile.  I think that if you want a clue as to how this blog is run, you need only look at BTD's gracious apology for an unintentional misrepresentation the other day.  You won't find that kind of magnanimity on HuffPo, which is why I am, increasingly, drawn to TL.

    Other blogs...! (none / 0) (#34)
    by Stellaaa on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 01:40:26 PM EST
    First of all I cannot have a discussion with people who say: Billary, wifey poo, who tell me to shut up  (al aTPM cafe), who accuse everyone of being a shill, for telling me Obama is not a politician he is an Agent of Chage and I should look it up on google that it accepted in the vernacular, people that think the christ child has been born and we must walk with him up the hill to the New Jerusalem.  

    I was never a true believer and will not be.  I know and disliked many a Clinton policy and political stances.  But I will not throw America's fate to a false idol.  

    Frankly, I think those blogs are acting like the bullies they have proclaimed to disdain.  Shame on them.  


    Stellaaaa (none / 0) (#35)
    by athyrio on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 01:46:41 PM EST
    Totally agree Stellaaa, I wasn't an initial fan of Hillarys to begin with but have gradually come around to supporting her...The more hillary hatred I hear, the more I cheer her on

    At least, Bob of Pacifica (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by felizarte on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 09:17:53 AM EST
    enlighten me as to why you seem to hate the Clintons. Be factual and use the same standards to other political leaders or candidates as you use on the clintons.

    And even a little objectivity would observe that this site is quite active and rational.


    Six out of 4000. (none / 0) (#4)
    by Geekesque on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 08:22:22 AM EST
    I would have yawned at a story like this about Clinton.

    Even at Dkos.

    Also, Clinton has never cast an electronic vote, AFAIK, since they don't vote that way in the US Senate.

    Come now (none / 0) (#12)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 08:53:24 AM EST
    You are game playing me now.

    Personally, I a mdoubtfull you would have been so dismissive if it was Hillary, but let's leave that aside, do you REALLY think the Media and daily kos would have just let it lie?



    Daily Kos, including Obama supporters, (none / 0) (#15)
    by Geekesque on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 09:09:13 AM EST
    defended her over the infamous "stiffing the waitress" flap.

    Some FP'er posted a lengthy post excoriating her for it, and virtually every commenter called b.s.

    This kind of thing is stupid.


    Obama supporters (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 10:17:20 AM EST
    defended her? Maybe a few scattered ones but most of them did not.

    You want to be blind to what Obamaa supporters are like at daily kos be my guest.

    No one else is fooled.

    It is disgraceful stuff.


    Well, here's a link to the (none / 0) (#33)
    by Geekesque on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 01:00:05 PM EST
    story in question.

    You can read the comments and judge for yourself.

    However, I have to allow for the possibility that it was a reaction to the author, rather than the story.


    Politics not Policy (none / 0) (#20)
    by joc on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 09:51:27 AM EST
    This kind of thing is only stupid if you are focused on the policy side. Imagine a general election ad run by a right-wing 527; starting with the shot of a launching missile; it's a nuke headed to China; a clip of Obama saying, "I pressed the wrong button." Good harmless fun for the righties? Or the kind of thing that sticks in the voters minds and builds up the impression that he isn't ready for prime time?

    Yes, this has no effect on his overall positions on issues, but it will be used against him to make him look like a hapless rookie. And if he's running against John McCain, you better believe that will be the story line of the election for the Republicans.


    On the other hand, (none / 0) (#6)
    by byteb on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 08:25:57 AM EST
    if Obama had confronted that reporter the way Bill did, we'd be enduring days of debate on whether he was 'testy' or merely 'irritated' or speculation on whether Bill/Hill were 'getting inside his head"'.
    The bottom line is that to expect intelligent journalism in coverage of a political campaign (especially involving Democrats) is truly fantasy land. Remember the in depth coverage of Al Gore's campaign when he ran against The Little King? It was disgraceful.

    You're kidding right? (none / 0) (#11)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 08:51:33 AM EST
    Marian Wright Edelman (none / 0) (#8)
    by Bob In Pacifica on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 08:29:24 AM EST
    about Bill Clinton's welfare reform:

    Well, you know, Hillary Clinton is an old friend, but they are not friends in politics. We have to build a constituency, and you don't--and we profoundly disagreed with the forms of the welfare reform bill, and we said so. We were for welfare reform, I am for welfare reform, but we need good jobs, we need adequate work incentives, we need minimum wage to be decent wage and livable wage, we need healthcare, we need transportation, we need to invest preventively in all of our children to prevent them ever having to be on welfare.

    And yet, you know, many years after that, when many people are pronouncing welfare reform a great success, you know, we've got growing child poverty, we have more children in poverty and in extreme poverty over the last six years than we had earlier in the year. When an economy is down, and the real test of welfare reform is what happens to the poor when the economy is not booming. Well, the poor are suffering, the gap between rich and poor widening. We have what I consider one of--a growing national catastrophe of what we call the cradle-to-prison pipeline. A black boy today has a one-in-three chance of going to prison in his lifetime, a black girl a one-in-seventeen chance. A Latino boy who's born in 2001 has a one-in-six chance of going to prison. We are seeing more and more children go into our child welfare systems, go dropping out of school, going into juvenile justice detention facilities. Many children are sitting up--15,000, according to a recent congressional GAO study--are sitting up in juvenile institutions solely because their parents could not get mental health and healthcare in their community. This is an abomination.

    Big Tent doesn't care whether or not I vote for Clinton. He just likes to report interesting stories. Interesting stories that make Obama look bad. Maybe that's the best summary of this election cycle.

    Ridiculous Bob (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 08:50:19 AM EST
    I want you to vote for whomever you like.

    I write about issues and have for some time.

    You want to write comments about welfare reform.

    I am curious if you have heard the other candidates condemn welfare reform? No? Wonder why?


    Bob (none / 0) (#9)
    by diplomatic on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 08:38:19 AM EST
    Obama is making himself look bad.

    He is having a very bad week.  It might pass, it might not.  In the meantime you can go over to blogspot.com and start your own blog.  Make it as fair as you want and be heard!


    I had a post names after her, too! (none / 0) (#19)
    by Judith on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 09:49:43 AM EST
    Only I was pointing out that Hillary said at the last debate that she worked for her at the Childrens' Defense Fund right our of Law School thus establishing the timeline of working for children's right etc for 35 years.

    How funny she shows up in your post as a diss to The husband.  :-)

    But wonderful - let's spread her name around...I will go find her book on my shelf somehwere and post the name later.


    Believe it or not (none / 0) (#17)
    by MikeDitto on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 09:43:05 AM EST
    It happens all the time. I'm squarely NOT in the Obama camp (nor am I in Hillary's yet either, but that could change). But legislators hit the wrong button on occasion. Just look through the Congressional record. There's at least one a week where a Congressman drops in a floor statement after the fact saying 'oops I hit the wrong button' or 'that's not the button I hit, the tally is whack.'

    In state legislatures and the House legislators vote sometimes hundreds of times a day on a little remote control. There will be a margin of error. Good on Hillary's researchers for finding those things, but bad on Hillary for making a big deal out of it. There are other things to hit Obama on, such as throwing the gays under the bus in SC (why I'm squarely NOT in the Obama camp).

    Not the point (none / 0) (#24)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 10:15:05 AM EST
    What if Hillary has said this?

    Can you hear the GOP (none / 0) (#31)
    by Molly Bloom on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 11:23:56 AM EST
    What if he hits the wrong button as President...

    Hey, he's already admitted he's (none / 0) (#32)
    by oculus on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 11:26:49 AM EST
    not a detail guy.  

    do we know (none / 0) (#25)
    by Kathy on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 10:15:22 AM EST
    that this came from Hillary's "research" or have reporters actually started digging into Obama's past?

    Also, in the US senate, do you get to change your vote if you made a mistake?

    I don't buy it.  I wouldn't buy it from Hillary, either.  Has anyone looked to see how many "mistake" votes she made?  The person quoted at the end of the article says he never did it (though still supports Obama)


    this is the best part (none / 0) (#23)
    by Kathy on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 10:13:14 AM EST
    I think the below passage from the story sums up Obama best.  He is always playing to both sides, always leaving himself a way out.  I would LOVE to hear John Edwards on this.  Hopefully, we will see him go at it in Florida during the last debate.  It's like Obama's war "vote."  It's easy to say you'd vote a certain way when no one was asking you to go on record.

    Anyway, the quote:

    But some lawmakers say the practice also offers a relatively painless way to placate both sides of a difficult issue. Even if a lawmaker admits an error, the actual vote stands and the official record merely shows the senator's "intent."

    sorry (none / 0) (#26)
    by Kathy on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 10:17:16 AM EST
    Me again--do we know of any votes where Obama accidentally voted no when he meant yes?  I mean, does it go both ways?

    That is when he voted "present." (none / 0) (#28)
    by oculus on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 10:43:54 AM EST
    What is wrong with us? (none / 0) (#29)
    by koshembos on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 10:46:14 AM EST
    Early on it became clear that many in the Netroots have bought into the "hate the Clintons" message that was known as the right wing conspiracy. Obviously we now have wall to wall conspiracy. There is something hysterically wrong with societies were hate is a central message.

    Although Obama didn't start it, he does openly play the hatred card when he turns to attacking the Clintons as an entity instead of responding to their attacks.

    As admirers of MLK, Gandhi and Mandella we should fight such hatred; in particular we should read the riot act to the Koses, Joshes, Matts and the Ezras.

    Enough is enough.

    Still, I support Edwards.

    Another example from ABC news: (none / 0) (#30)
    by oculus on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 11:15:12 AM EST
    The campaign of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., is hitting back hard -- quite harshly, in fact -- against the misleading radio ad from Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., (LINK), which feeds into a pattern by the Clintons of misrepresenting comments he made in an editorial board meeting in Reno, Nev., about Republicans.

    what (none / 0) (#38)
    by diplomatic on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 03:53:31 PM EST
    Is that text coming from actual ABC News journalists or a blogger?  It's confusing.  

    What I object to (none / 0) (#37)
    by Tano on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 02:02:53 PM EST
    in BTD's original post is the denial that the Clinton's are playing the race card.

    They are playing it masterfully. Starting with the MLK reference, in which Hillary basically claimed that she is the presidential-level politician, and Obama is akin to the civil-rights inspired leader (read - a guy interested in racial issues, not the full spectrum of presidential issues).

    And continuing constantly, ending with Bill's outrageous characterization of the race in SC as one where the blacks will all vote for the black, so we might not win.

    They are making progress in redefining Obama from the presidential candidate who happens to be black to the black candidate. Because that is a frame in which they win.

    My disgust at the Clintons is growing every day.

    your disgust is matched only (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by Judith on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 03:54:45 PM EST
    by your woeful lack of understanding.  

    You object to my disagreeing with you (none / 0) (#40)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 04:03:38 PM EST
    is what it amounts to.

    Thanks BTD (none / 0) (#41)
    by ghost2 on Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 07:36:56 PM EST
    Lately, you've been on fire.  Thanks for calling it as it is and providing a voice for Truth.