More Journamalism

Via Yglesias, this from LATimes:

Rejecting Moore's prescription on healthcare could alienate liberal activists, who will play a big role in choosing the party's next standard-bearer. However, his proposal — wiping out private health insurance and replacing it with a massive federal program — could be political poison with the larger electorate.

Michael Moore, Kingmaker? Where does the Media get this stuff? This is not Free Republic, but the news section of the LATimes! This is just pathetic. But if you think about it, it offers a great Sistah Souljah moment for all of the Dem candidates - they can say they stood up to Michael Moore!

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    Tom Tomorrow (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Warren Terrer on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 01:52:12 PM EST
    shows us how it works.

    Awesome! (none / 0) (#5)
    by Sailor on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 02:28:18 PM EST
    I must have missed that secret memo.

    hmmmmmmmmmmmm (none / 0) (#1)
    by cpinva on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 01:19:45 PM EST
    who knew? lol

    when did mr. moore gain such influence over the democratic party?

    well, no matter. this merely adds proof that the purportedly "liberal" media has, in fact, lost its mind.

    A combination of Private & public is probably (none / 0) (#2)
    by kindness on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 01:51:28 PM EST
    the only way the US will see a health care system on par with Canada & Europe.  I say that because there's just too much money in the private sphere right now for them to just throw in the towel without fighting.  My preference, I'd take a Canada style set up any day than what we currently have,  and I work for Kaiser.

    Der Fuhrer (none / 0) (#4)
    by chemoelectric on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 02:10:33 PM EST
    Hail Michael Moore! I hear that he has taken to drenching himself in Old Spice and smoking big, aromatic cigars, which of course are the sorts of things that matter in the field of public policy.

    He said that "activists" (none / 0) (#6)
    by lilybart on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 03:05:15 PM EST
    will take a role in choosing the nominee, and that is true. Not that Michael is a kingmaker.

    But the whole LA Times article was a load of crap.

    He may have gained influence (none / 0) (#7)
    by HeadScratcher on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 03:07:04 PM EST
    When he sat with President Carter at the Democratic Convention!

    More ::Journamalism:: ?? (none / 0) (#8)
    by Edger on Fri Jun 22, 2007 at 05:30:44 PM EST

    et al (none / 0) (#9)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 10:01:21 AM EST
    I think it rather obvious that the general population wants National Health Care.

    The real questions are:

    1. How do we pay for it.

    2. Which model do we use.

    Moore is of no help in this process by just being Moore. Before you can have a discussion with someone it is useful to not pi*s them off. It is also not useful to use a country that has had a dictator who killed thousands and imprisoned more over the years as a model. It is also not useful to use a small police state country with a population that is not diverse as am example on how to do something in a 300,000,000 population country with a population that is very diverse.

    So, how do we pay?

    It must be paid for by everyone through a national sales tax. If you try to use a payroll tax any plan is DOA. The middle class will correctly and immediately see that as them paying for everyone else.

    In addition, a sales tax is hard to cheat on, easy to enforce and collect and picks up  all of those who are now paying no taxes for a variety of reasons. i.e. Illegal aliens, dope dealers, etc.

    As for the model, we already have one in place. Medicare. All of the health providers know the rules, and how to deal with them, so we need no new bureaucracy. In addition it keeps the patient/doctor relationship in place.

    The biggest opponents will be insurance companies. They can be given a slice of the pie by letting them administer the programs, but they will still be the ones giving up the most, with Doctors second. Doctors can be helped by increasing the amount paid per procdure, etc.