A Hillary-Obama Ticket?

Hillary Rosen at HuffPo writes that Obama is no threat to Hillary Clinton in a 2008 Presidential run.

Yet Hillary's detractors see her as too liberal, too fresh, too ambitious --- too unelectable. Next to Obama you can't help but think she looks a downright conventional choice.

I see Obama as a centrist, not a liberal. I see Hillary Clinton as a centrist.

Wouldn't that be a close to perfect pairing for 2008, the two centrists, a female and an African-American?

One of the questions I have with a Hillary Clinton candidacy is which male contender would agree to run with her in the VP slot? For John Edwards, John Kerry, and most of the other names we know, they might perceive it as a step down to accept the VP slot after campaigning so hard for the Presidential nomination. But for Obama, who has limited experience in the national forum, it would be a step up. He'd probably jump at the chance.

So maybe that's where all this "Obama may run for President in '08" talk is coming from.

I still don't see who anointed him and why, but the media is biting and he's bound to become a household word before too long.

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    Re: i didn't say rudy was wonderful (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Edger on Tue Oct 24, 2006 at 08:40:54 AM EST
    i didn't say rudy was wonderful...just what he would do.

    Heh... I've been reminding Jim for a while now that there was still time for him to pretend he was onto them (rethugs) the whole time. Even if he had to fake it.

    Looks like he's got the second part down. Is this a sign of progress? Heh... Heh heh.

    Obama (none / 0) (#1)
    by rob on Tue Oct 24, 2006 at 12:45:25 AM EST
    The Obama frenzy came out of nowhere to me. His name just has not been mentioned in very many articles about 2008 potential candidates.

    xxx (none / 0) (#2)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Oct 24, 2006 at 07:03:48 AM EST
    Yep. Just what the Demos need. A four year Senator and an 8 year Senator. Neither with any management experience.

    The Repubs must be praying that comes true. Rudy G would eat'em alive.

    GOP Evangilical Base (none / 0) (#7)
    by Molly Bloom on Tue Oct 24, 2006 at 08:27:50 AM EST
    won't vote for Rudy. Plus Rudy was imploding in his run against HRC when he dropped out for little Ricky.

    Management expereience... you mean like being an MBA and managing several companies into bankruptcy while getting bailed out by well heeled friends?


    Rudy (none / 0) (#9)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Oct 24, 2006 at 09:16:58 AM EST
    I thought your wee a sophist.

    Your belief that pro-choice, pro-gay rights Rudy can be the GOP nominee demonstrates that perhaps you are not very well informed, rather than disingenuous.


    Juliani (none / 0) (#3)
    by jazzcattg1 on Tue Oct 24, 2006 at 07:48:40 AM EST
    Rudy G would eat'em alive.
     That's right Jim, just like Rudy's Ex-Wives and concubines.

    xx (1.00 / 0) (#5)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Oct 24, 2006 at 08:25:12 AM EST
    i didn't say rudy was wonderful...just what he would do.

    Not Yet (none / 0) (#4)
    by kdog on Tue Oct 24, 2006 at 08:06:08 AM EST
    Wouldn't that be a close to perfect pairing for 2008, the two centrists, a female and an African-American?

    Far from perfect TL....I'm afraid there is still a fair segment of the population that would never vote for a women or an African American.  We ain't there yet.

    hillary (none / 0) (#6)
    by profmarcus on Tue Oct 24, 2006 at 08:26:55 AM EST
    as much as i would LOVE to see a female u.s. president, hillary is not the one... she has demonstrated, time and again, that she has no spine (and, yes, that can be said for a vast majority of her dem colleagues)... at a time when the u.s. is suffering the ravages of the unheralded coup d'etat, foisted on us by the 12 december 2000 scotus decision, ANY elected official as well as ANY responsible media outlet who has NOT forcefully spoken out against the criminals leading this nation does not deserve legitimate consideration for ANY reason or any office, much less higher office... hillary can kiss my nether regions... i want the problems FIXED, not glossed over with "centrism..."

    And, yes, I DO take it personally

    We like Obama because he has no record to malign? (none / 0) (#10)
    by jerry on Tue Oct 24, 2006 at 09:47:37 AM EST
    Atrios agrees:

    Far from blunting the Hillary machine, he'll reinforce it.

    I am disappointed with some of his votes, but I am disappointed with many votes from many that want the Democratic nomination, so....

    But I would like to see him do something other than just be Obama.

    We seem to like Obama not because of what he has done, but because he has no record.

    Other folks with little to no record: Miers, Roberts, Alito.  

    Are we becoming a country where it is impossible to run on your record?

    He has a hell of a record (none / 0) (#11)
    by archpundit on Wed Oct 25, 2006 at 02:17:46 AM EST
    especially on criminal justice issues.  

    I guess I find it odd that his record for 8 years in the Illinois Senate is being completely ignored. His fights over criminal justice bills including death penalty reform and juvenile justice bills would be especially relevant to Talk Left.

    I think he should wait personally, but the attempt to make him into Evan Bayh or Hillary Clinton is bizarre to say the least after he led on the Iraq war in Illinois and criminal justice bills.  

    xx (1.00 / 0) (#12)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Oct 25, 2006 at 07:00:04 AM EST
    arch - Being a state senator doesn't make many people set up and take notice.

    And I don't entirely disagree (none / 0) (#13)
    by archpundit on Wed Oct 25, 2006 at 09:33:17 AM EST
    In fact, I hope he waits, but his record isn't really centrist.  He was a progressive voice in the Illinois Senate when the Illinois Senate was Republican.

    I don't mind criticism of him in terms of being too new to the national scene at all.  I happen to agree in terms of a run at President.

    That said, his record--and there is a pretty decent one to examine, isn't of being a centrist or someone who stuck to safe issues.