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List of Gay Republican Aides is Making the Rounds

Let me begin by saying that I disapprove of outing people based on their sexual orientation. Once it's reported, there's no point in ignoring it, but I'm not going to be the one to do it.

David Corn today (who also disapproves of the practice) writes that a list of Gay Republican aides is making the rounds. He has the list but is not publishing it.

On CBS News on Tuesday, correspondent Gloria Borger reported that there's anger among House Republicans at what an unidentified House GOPer called a "network of gay staffers and gay members who protect each other and did the Speaker a disservice." The implication is that these gay Republicans somehow helped page-pursuing Mark Foley before his ugly (and possibly illegal) conduct was exposed. The List--drawn up by gay politicos--is a partial accounting of who on Capitol Hill might be in that network.

I have a copy. I'm not going to publish it. For one, I don't know for a fact that the men on the list are gay. And generally I don't fancy outing people--though I have not objected when others have outed gay Republicans, who, after all, work for a party that tries to limit the rights of gays and lesbians and that welcomes the support of those who demonize same-sexers.

I suspect it will only be a matter of minutes or hours before someone who believes Republican hypocrisy outweighs individual privacy hits the "post" button and publishes it. Corn writes:

What's interesting about The List--which includes nine chiefs of staffs, two press secretaries, and two directors of communications--is that (if it's acucurate) it shows that some of the religious right's favorite representatives and senators have gay staffers helping them advance their political careers and agendas. These include Representative Katherine Harris and Henry Hyde and Senators Bill Frist, George Allen, Mitch McConnell and Rick Santorum. Should we salute these legislators for being open-minded enough to have such tolerant hiring practices? After all, Santorum in a 2003 AP interview compared homosexuality to bestiality, incest and polygamy. It would be rather big of Santorum to employ a fellow who engages in activity akin to such horrors. That is, if Santorum knows about his orientation.

Corn argues, and I agree completely, the Foley scandal is not about homosexuality. To me, it's about abuse of power. Elected officials in Congress who do things because they can, out of a false sense of entitlement. This Republican Administration has been rife with them, from Randy "Duke" Cunningham, to those involved in outing Valerie Plame, to Ohio's Bob Ney and more.

Corn writes:

...anytime a gay Republican is outed by events, a dicey issue is raised: what about those GOPers who are gay and who serve a party that is anti-gay? ....Is it possible to support a party because you adhere to most of its tenets--even if that party refuses to recognize you as a full citizen?

I think the answer to this question is a qualified "yes." If there's a candidate who supports 75% of my views on criminal justice, I'd probably work for them, unless the area of 25% included an issue of such importance to me, I would wake up each day feeling uncomfortable going to work.

I suspect (but will admit I do not know for sure) there are many gay people to whom their sexual orientation is but another facet of their life, not the defining one.

So I'm not ready to dump on Republican gay aides just because of their party identity. It's a personal matter for each of them and barring some grievous personal act of hypocrisy, I'm willing to respect their decision of whom to work for.

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    My anxiety would be that the Republicans are trying to spin this so that it reinforces negative stereotypes about gay people: we pursue youths, etc. (Foley's own story about his molestation might imply that he was "made gay" by predatory practices of a gay priest) or that we form a cabal with an agenda and protect the interests of our own (thus the list of gay republicans on the hill wouldn't be exactly retaliation so much as a way of deflecting the concern from republican corruption and towards deceitful, self-interested queers). If such spin were succesfful, while not rescuing them from this specific crisis, it would more generally contribute to THEIR agenda, which works in part by demonizing gay people.

    JM, being Republican is a grievous act of hypocrisy. Being gay while Republican is just a little frosting on the cake. Jake

    Re: List of Gay Republican Aides is Making the Rou (none / 0) (#3)
    by Rich on Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 12:58:12 PM EST
    "I'm not going to name names, but I will tell you who they work for." Gee, that's really keeping it secret. Another couple posts like that, and any privacy concerns are illusory at best.

    Re: List of Gay Republican Aides is Making the Rou (none / 0) (#4)
    by kdog on Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 12:58:12 PM EST
    What does this have to do with anything? Equating homosexuality with inappropriate sexual contact with minors is totally uncool and has no basis in reality.

    Re: List of Gay Republican Aides is Making the Rou (none / 0) (#8)
    by Sailor on Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 01:29:20 PM EST
    My anxiety would be that the Republicans are trying to spin this so that it reinforces negative stereotypes about gay people
    too late! sample
    Wall Street Journal, editorial: But in today's politically correct culture, it's easy to understand how senior Republicans might well have decided they had no grounds to doubt Mr. Foley merely because he was gay and a little too friendly in emails.


    Re: List of Gay Republican Aides is Making the Rou (none / 0) (#10)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 02:17:30 PM EST
    kdog - Good point. et al - So, if you agree with kdog's point, that being gay shouldn't be taken into consideration when evaluating their actions...then the question becomes very simple. What is the purpose for outing these people? The answer appears to be that those who disagree with their politics and that those who are doing it are doing so for political gain, hopeful that their sexual orientation will cause people to not support their employers. Folks, that's sad on many, many, many levels.

    Katherine Harris has staffers?

    Re: List of Gay Republican Aides is Making the Rou (none / 0) (#6)
    by scribe on Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 03:19:15 PM EST
    As to the Santorum guy, he was outed well over a year ago, and Santorum stuck by him throughout. Back then, Tricky Ricky even tried to make an argument logically analogous to Gingrich saying this weekend that "we didn't blow up Foley for messing with kids because we'd get it for gay-bashing". As to whether someone is gay or not, who knows and who cares? The point of the issue here is twofold. First, if they mess around with kids, they've crossed a pretty clear and defined line. Regardless of gay or straight. (Foley, from the e-mails, looks - to my eye - to have gone over that line. In my jurisdiction, he might already be under arrest for those e-mails.) Second and probably more important comes down to, as noted above, whether the person (and their employer) is trustworthy (by the populace) in the face of the inconsistencies (or outright contradictions) between the person's orientation, and the policies the person (and their employer) support. There comes a point when even the most dedicated, dyed-in-the-wool-Republican gay would have to question whether pushing the Republican progam, using and soliciting the support of the Religious Rightists (who'd just as soon burn the gay at the stake, as a warmup for Hell, I guess) (and legislating them some hypermoralistic crumbs, too) isn't too hypocritical to stomach. That point is different for each individual - this inheres in the nature of individuality. As a political matter, though, it's probably fair to say that by jumping into the pool of politics, these folks knew they'd be getting wet. If a particular congressman's staff member embraces something anathema to that congressman's supporters, that congressman's opponents are probably well within the bounds of pointing out that inconsistency to the congressman's supporters. Working down or demoralizing the other guy's base is every bit the part of politics as is building one's own. Sadly, the core disconnect in this whole discussion stems from the idea that embarrassment is available to use, by outing them. It echoes the old reasons for revoking the security clearances of gays - "because they're more susceptible to blackmail and then giving up secrets" and "they lie to us about their orientation, what else are they lying about". Removing the potential for embarrassment (i.e., eliminate the social opprobrium) removes the potential for blackmail and ends the necessity to lie. That Republicans have worked - themselves and with their allies - to the opposite end, increasing the opprobrium, is to their discredit. It also gives their opponents a club to hit them over the head with, for which their opponents will likely thank them.

    Heck. I would have trouble working for someone not a StL Cardinals fan. How could a gay person work for Santorum. It strains one's credulity.

    Equating homosexuality with pedophilia is just Christian Conservative/Far Far Right spin. They say that [and worse] all the time when talking to their base. Problem is, this time around, it's not going to work. Th Republican base may be in the Far Far Right, but they're not stupid. There is no way to spin this. You knew about it two years ago and did nothing.

    Re: List of Gay Republican Aides is Making the Rou (none / 0) (#11)
    by Gabriel Malor on Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 03:19:15 PM EST
    I think this is right on:
    1. Going after sexual predators is not gay bashing.
    2. Equating homosexuality with sex abuse is.
    Jeralyn, you've hit it right on when you posit the possibility of gays for whom their sexuality isn't their sole or even their most important characteristic.

    Push is coming to shove. Who created that list? It can cut both ways. If the Republicans purge their staff of the gay, it can strengthen their positions with the base, and weaken it with the middle. If they keep the gay in their staffs, then it gains points with the middle, and weakens the base. It's politics either way.

    Re: List of Gay Republican Aides is Making the Rou (none / 0) (#13)
    by ScottW on Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 03:19:15 PM EST
    I totally agree with Rich. TL, it wouldn't take a genius to figure out who the gay people are by mentioning their employers. I also disagree with your point about being outed. I think it sad, but they are the Uncle Tom's of the homosexual community. Can you imagine Condi supporting a senator that wanted to make black marriages illegal. Insanity, they are selling their soul for a piece of the pie most of them will never have. Would it matter if she agreed with 99% of his other policies ? And I think the gay community has a right to know who these people are. If every gay person in politics and religion, in or our of the closet would quit supporting anti-gay legislation, there would be no anti-gay legislation. I would imagine in politics and religion, some of the most rabid anti-gay voices we hear are gay. It is not a personal choice when you are representing a large segment our our population. These are morally challenged people, but I guess it's what we have come to expect from the GOP, straight or gay. I am against outing unless you are in a position to make policy that directly goes against your sexual or any other orientation.

    Re: List of Gay Republican Aides is Making the Rou (none / 0) (#14)
    by killer on Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 04:24:36 PM EST
    One conclusion of why this list is being distributed is that it is political opponents. There may be other reasonable conclusions. For instance: A gay cabal of republican staffers worked to keep Foley in office and kept their employers out of the loop. I have no evidence for this, or as much evidence as any other supposition.

    Re: List of Gay Republican Aides is Making the Rou (none / 0) (#15)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 04:34:11 PM EST
    killer writes:
    For instance: A gay cabal of republican staffers worked to keep Foley in office and kept their employers out of the loop. I have no evidence for this, or as much evidence as any other supposition.
    Since you have no evidence, why make the claim? That's an old, old, old nasty trick in politics, killer.

    Re: List of Gay Republican Aides is Making the Rou (none / 0) (#16)
    by Tom Maguire on Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 07:14:47 PM EST
    1. This is sexual McCarthyism - I am disappointed and surprised that the strong denunciation is "I disapprove". 2. Corn's "argument" is absurd - if it is *not* about homosexuality and *is* about abuse of power, why not out aides and staffers who facilitate the abuse of power? 3. Corn manages to get comfortable with outing gay Republicans. He does not state his position, but - would he really approve of closeted gay advocacy? Seems sort of deceitful to me, pretending to have been swayed by force of argument when in fact the advocate is touting his own self-interest. So presumably, Corn and the left is comfortable with outing closeted Dems as well? Of course not. So that means the Dems are the part of outing gay Republicans - for everyone else, they will stand up for privacy rights. Well, until political expedience intervenes again. FWIW, Mark Kleiman denounced this two years ago, with support from Ted Barlow. This issue is quite easy to see clearly, unless a desire for power complicates the view.

    Re: List of Gay Republican Aides is Making the Rou (none / 0) (#17)
    by Edger on Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 07:14:47 PM EST
    Did you mean these guys, killer?

    Re: List of Gay Republican Aides is Making the Rou (none / 0) (#18)
    by Gabriel Malor on Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 07:14:47 PM EST
    I am against outing unless you are in a position to make policy that directly goes against your sexual or any other orientation.
    Is this what you really mean? You think anyone who is in a position to make policy against interests should be outed? That's repulsive. Legislators are called upon to act against their own personal interests all the time. The idea is that they will represent their constitutents' interests before their own. And singling out gay Republicans for especial opprobrium is bigoted. Why treat them any different than anyone else? Your answer is "because they're gay." For reasons that have not been made clear, gay Republicans apparently have a lesser interest in privacy. You've separated them out into their own class and decided that they will get worse treatment based only on their sexual orientation. And on those same lines, I am extremely disappointed to see insults like "Uncle Toms" thrown around here and directed at blacks or analogized to gays.

    Re: List of Gay Republican Aides is Making the Rou (none / 0) (#19)
    by dutchfox on Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 07:14:47 PM EST
    kdog wrote
    Equating homosexuality with inappropriate sexual contact with minors is totally uncool and has no basis in reality.
    And I agree totally. But if you'd heard Paul Weyrich (Free Congress Foundation)today on NPR's All Things Considered this afternoon, you would have heard otherwise. I can see where all this is going.

    I cannot believe that people refuse to out those who actively work to deny us rights. Unbelievable. This are not just random people minding their own business--these are people who write the anti-gay legislation, who craft the anti-gay campaign speeches, who are responsible for the words in hateful Congresspeople's mouths. Unbelievable. Why does anyone protect them like this? Anyone who denies other people rights they deserve should not be protected. How dare anyone guard their closet door while they continue to hurt me and mine?