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Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs

Murray Waas breaks yet another story today. President Bush has not been truthful with Americans about the information he received about Iraq and WMDs.

Two highly classified intelligence reports delivered directly to President Bush before the Iraq war cast doubt on key public assertions made by the president, Vice President Cheney, and other administration officials as justifications for invading Iraq and toppling Saddam Hussein, according to records and knowledgeable sources.

The first report, delivered to Bush in early October 2002, was a one-page summary of a National Intelligence Estimate report [that]....stated that the Energy Department and the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research believed that the [aluminum] tubes were "intended for conventional weapons," a view disagreeing with that of other intelligence agencies, including the CIA, which believed that the tubes were intended for a nuclear bomb.

This is pretty ground-breaking stuff, read the whole thing. Reddhedd analyzes Waas' article here.

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  • Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#1)
    by squeaky on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 10:09:09 PM EST
    Murray Waas delivers another blow to Bush's credibility. The American people turn against a president that is caught lying too many times. The polls are going to continually reflect his spiraling fall from power. He spares Judy Miller and WHIG. Her infamous Sept 7, 2002 Aluminum Tubes article. as well as her next half dozen WHIG articles were written to booster the cause for war. Senator Pat Roberts was also making sure all the evidence followed the WH script for war.
    ....the successful attempt to deceive Congress into voting for an unprovoked war. INR analysts dissented loudly from some of the most important key judgments of the infamous National Intelligence Estimate, "Iraq's Continuing Programs for Weapons of Mass Destruction" of Oct. 1, 2002.
    Senator Robert's respose was to ostracise INR and exclude them from further reports.
    Roberts apparently wanted to preclude the possibility that some over-curious senator might ask why INR was able to get it mostly right on Iraq when everyone else was almost all wrong
    Good question. Waas has some answers.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#2)
    by scarshapedstar on Thu Mar 02, 2006 at 10:46:05 PM EST
    Yeah, well, this kinda thing is 50/50 and hindsight is 20/20 and would you rather have Saddam? Never forget!

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#3)
    by john horse on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 03:54:40 AM EST
    Remember those who argued that Bush based his decision on the available intelligence and that given this intelligence even Clinton would have invaded? Well, here is the smoking gun that proves that Bush wasn't misled by the intelligence but knew what was going on and deliberately misled the American people. Bush should be impeached.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#4)
    by scarshapedstar on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 05:21:54 AM EST
    Remember, John, Bush doesn't read the papers and doesn't listen to anyone who's not a sycophant. But you can't hold that against him. It's just his style. All styles are created equal. See?e

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#5)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 06:14:26 AM EST
    The whole shebang was a con from day one. Only the most gullible still believe the admin. had the interests of our country at heart. It was a money grab...plain and simple. I have no doubt.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#6)
    by Edger on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 07:03:20 AM EST
    No one is defending bush in this thread, I see. No talking points yet from the right? No one has told them what their opinions and positions on this are yet? Can't even invent some more good lies or even outright denials?

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#7)
    by desertswine on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 07:29:24 AM EST
    It was a money grab...plain and simple.
    That's how I see it too. On the money kdog.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#8)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 07:39:37 AM EST
    edger - Sorry, I didn't know I was on the clock. John Horse - So, what's your point? Bush received multiple inputs, the majority of which said, go. So he went. And BTW - I know of no one ever claiming that the intelligence information was unanimous. Leaders have to take the information they have and make decisons based on that information. That you don't like Bush, his decisions and probably his dog is well known. So ho-hum.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#9)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 07:40:56 AM EST
    Edger, give them time. Things are so bad that it is taking longer to make up propaganda. I listen to right wing talk radio sometimes, and yesterday the host actually "whirled" that the port deal was Clinton's fault. I have no patience at all with Bush and his minions. My friend's daughter is being deployed to Iraq in a few months. It sickens me that she could die or be maimed because the Bush bunch wanted to invade Iraq since 1998 and they lied to drag us into invading. We, rational thinkers, need to push the Murtha plan and get OUT!!!!!

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 07:54:14 AM EST
    Jim, should a leader be held accountable for the decisions they make and how their policies are implemented? Bush's "decision" has cost our country almost 2,300 lives. I think the least we can do is to continue to question our government on it's Iraq policy.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#11)
    by John Mann on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 08:08:25 AM EST
    Yeah, well, this kinda thing is 50/50 and hindsight is 20/20 and would you rather have Saddam? Never forget!
    What I'd "rather have" doesn't matter much - but I bet if you asked Joe Iraqi the same question, the answer would be something like, "Given what has happened to our country in the past 15 years, you're damn right I would."

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#12)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 08:30:17 AM EST
    almost 2,300 lives
    We shouldn't forget the permanently maimed and injured. 25,000 US Casualties. Untold Iraqis.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#14)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 09:15:58 AM EST
    It is clear by now that the WH had a heavy hand in creating a false picture of Iraq in order to serve their covert agenda. Do you think that the news of Shia and Sunni impending civil war could also be cooked? Both Robert Fisk and Riverbend ask the question: Who is behind the attacks? Too many things that Iraqis and those familiar with Iraqi culture are not credible about the US version of the current Iraqi narrative. As both Fisk and Riverbend point out Iraq is tribal and most families have both Sunnis and Shias in them. if the current flow of information shows how the WH has consistently spun and fabricated the Iraqi narrative for the past several years, why do we believe anything that they say about the subject of Iraq anymore?


    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#15)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 09:27:16 AM EST
    debbiehamil - In our system our leaders are held accountable every election cycle. Bush as won twice on the national level. Now you may not like that, but it is, as Sgt Friday said: Just the facts, mam. So bide a while and you'll have a chance to vote for another Democrat. Speaking of Democrats and dead people and Iraq..... Should Clinton be punished for his failure to take OBL prisoner? How about taking him to the Hague and trying him for murder because that missile hit the Chinese Embassy? Better yet, how many people were killed when he played wag the dog and attacked an asprin factory? And on the day of his impeachment no less. squeaky writes:
    why do we believe anything that they say about the subject of Iraq anymore?
    Surely you don't expect me to believe you ever did. John Mann - Well, they had him 15 years ago and he invaded Kuwait and got the country pretty well destroyed. So somehow I don't think they would want to do that over.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 09:42:50 AM EST
    Bush is not going to be in another election cycle, but he should still be held accountable for his mistakes. His mistakes have cost our country 2,300 lives and many maimed. After all of Bush's failures, you continue to worship him. Why?

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#18)
    by scarshapedstar on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 11:22:48 AM EST
    Bush received multiple inputs, the majority of which said, go. So he went.
    I never quite understand what Bush's role in government is. If that's all it takes for a President to make decisions, tallying up the votes of whoever manages to talk to him, what's he do that nobody else can? Might as well replace him with a ballot box, or a roulette wheel.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#19)
    by Che's Lounge on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 11:47:55 AM EST
    He had all of the information. He made a fatally wrong decision. He and his adminstration should resign.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#20)
    by squeaky on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 12:59:29 PM EST
    Who is behind the attacks? Too many things that Iraqis and those familiar with Iraqi culture are not credible about the US version of the current Iraqi narrative. Flashback to the Iran Contra era, as many of these creeps, freedom fighters I think they were called, are back in business. John Negroponte was doing to Honduras what John Negroponte is doing in Iraq. Any reason to assume that the guy either changed since than or was hired for anything other than his Death Squad, or divide and conquor expertise.
        In the middle of Negroponte's tenure in Iraq, the Pentagon (read Donald Rumsfeld) openly considered using assassination and kidnapping teams there, led by the Special Forces. Referred to not-so-subtly as "the Salvador option," the January 2005 rhetoric from the Pentagon publicized a proposal that would send Special Forces teams to "advise, support and possibly train" Iraqi "squads." Members of these squads would be hand-picked Kurdish Peshmerga militia and Shia Badr militiamen used to target Sunni resistance fighters and their sympathizers.
    link

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#21)
    by scarshapedstar on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 06:07:54 PM EST
    He had all of the information. He made a fatally wrong decision. He and his adminstration should resign.
    Hey, it's not his fault! More people said "yay" than "nay" and a President doesn't have to use intuition or principle or do anything other than act as a proxy for the will of the four or five people Karl Rove lets into the Oval Office. I'm sure Lincoln and Eisenhower would agree...

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#22)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 06:57:35 PM EST
    Che writes:
    He and his adminstration should resign
    Hate to tell you this, but our govt. is not a parlimentary form. Aint life heck sometimes?

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#23)
    by john horse on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 07:04:07 PM EST
    debbiehamill Bush may not be up for election but lets not forget that the GOP Congress is up for election. Let us not forget that one of the main reasons that Bush has made so many mistakes is that the GOP Congress has refused to provide the proper checks and balances and hold Bush accountable. I am not naive to believe that politicians will be above partisan politics but you would expect a higher set of values when the lives of our American soldiers are on the line. The GOP is ethically and morally bankrupt. Its time to clean house.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#24)
    by Che's Lounge on Fri Mar 03, 2006 at 07:05:53 PM EST
    Jim, Too late, but you should have told that to Nixon and Agnew.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#25)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 11:34:02 AM EST
    scar - Glad you like Lincoln. He suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War. Eisenhower was the consummate consensus builder. He rarely made a move without agreement from everyone. Perhaps his largest blunder in WWII was when he ignored staff advice, stopped Patton's advance, by withholding supplies and gasoline, in the fall of '44 to let Montgomery have a victory in Holland. Monty failed, the Germans regrouped and the allies probably lost 10,000 more troops because of this. Leading large groups is about getting all the information you can get and then making the best decision possible. Free lancing should be left to captains and the majors. Et al - No one here ever asks the ultimate question. What if the intelligence had been correct and Bush had done nothing? How many would have died? You see, that was the question Bush had to face.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#26)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 12:05:37 PM EST
    That reminds me of a sketch on SNL in the Late '70s, Jim. It was one of those Masterpiece Theatre takeoffs, Really Bad Cinema with your host Leonard Pynth Garnell. The Night's Production was a Historical What If, Entitled, "What if Elanor Roosevelt Could Fly?" How much could the war have been shortened, complete with an academic panel discussion like the History Channel's History or Hollywood? While equally absurd, unlike yours, that one was funny.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#27)
    by scarshapedstar on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 12:41:51 PM EST
    scar - Glad you like Lincoln. He suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War.
    Gotta love those patented non-sequiturs.
    Et al - No one here ever asks the ultimate question. What if the intelligence had been correct and Bush had done nothing? How many would have died? You see, that was the question Bush had to face.
    What if there was a nuclear weapon about to go off in NYC and the only person who knew how to stop it was in a coma? OMG! This is no less fanciful than the scenario you're pushing, in which information supporting a war handed to you by Doug Feith and Richard Perle and Dick Cheney is somehow not suspect. I think the average kindergarden teacher (or kindergardener, for that matter) could detect the teensy tiny conflict of interest there. Bush lied down with dogs and we all woke up with fleas. Heckuva job.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#28)
    by Sailor on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 01:15:35 PM EST
    Sailor's Law is New! and Improved! Inaddition to Clinton and Kennedy add Lincoln and Roosevelt!

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#29)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 02:15:36 PM EST
    charliedontsurf1 writes:
    While equally absurd, unlike yours, that one was funny.
    Actually charlie, mine was history. It wasn't meant to be funny, then, or now. So what is your point? That you watched SNL but have no knowledge of WWII? Heck, we knew that. Now, what was that you said? You have a sheepskin and don't need any more training? Classic, charlie. Classic. scar - I know that you have problems placing philosophical questions into real world situations, but you really should try. Think. You are the President. (God forbid.) The country has been been attacked. The CIA and all the world's major intelligence agencies are telling you that an enemy country has WMD's and will use them at the first opportunity against the US. You also have a couple of folks saying otherwise. Who would you believe and what would you do? Remember. Millions may die if you make the wrong decision. Oh, did I mention that your politcial opponents are claiming that you didn't act soon enough to prevent the previous attack?

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#30)
    by Sailor on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 02:46:03 PM EST
    And so goes another episode of Fantasy Island.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#31)
    by Sailor on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 03:07:40 PM EST
    The CIA and all the world's major intelligence agencies are telling you that an enemy country has WMD's and will use them at the first opportunity against the US.
    That canard has been proven wrong so many times that I'm sure there must be a name for someone who keeps spouting it. IAEA and UNSCOM didn't think so, a good part of the CIA didn't think so and bushco never said 'we think' they said 'we know' and pointed out locations. They lied everytime, just like some others I could mention.
    Author PAUL R. PILLAR is on the faculty of the Security Studies Program at Georgetown University. Concluding a long career in the Central Intelligence Agency, he served as National Intelligence Officer for the Near East and South Asia from 2000 to 2005. The most serious problem with U.S. intelligence today is that its relationship with the policymaking process is broken and badly needs repair. In the wake of the Iraq war, it has become clear that official intelligence analysis was not relied on in making even the most significant national security decisions, that intelligence was misused publicly to justify decisions already made, that damaging ill will developed between policymakers and intelligence officers, and that the intelligence community's own work was politicized. As the national intelligence officer responsible for the Middle East from 2000 to 2005, I witnessed all of these disturbing developments.
    And then there is this from the most corrupt regime in US history:
    Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff testified that his bosses instructed him to leak information to reporters from a high-level intelligence report that suggested Iraq was trying to obtain weapons of mass destruction, according to court records in the CIA leak case.


    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#32)
    by Sailor on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 03:09:31 PM EST
    then you have this from uncurious george:
    "What's the difference?" ~ George W. Bush, 2003-12-16 in an interview with Diane Sawyer, excusing his lie that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, by claiming that there was no difference between having weapons and wanting to have them.


    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#33)
    by Sailor on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 03:15:11 PM EST
    bush is a liar:
    "Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons." United Nations address, September 12, 2002
    "Iraq has stockpiled biological and chemical weapons, and is rebuilding the facilities used to make more of those weapons."
    "We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have." Radio address, October 5, 2002
    "The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons."
    "We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas."
    "We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVS for missions targeting the United States."
    "The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls his "nuclear mujahideen" -- his nuclear holy warriors. Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past. Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons." Cincinnati, Ohio speech, October 7, 2002
    "Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent." State of the Union Address, January 28, 2003
    "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." Address to the nation, March 17, 2003
    So, if a president says lies over and over, should he be impeached for lying or incompetence?

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#34)
    by Sailor on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 03:26:25 PM EST
    "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." ~ Mark Twain
    George Tenet, the ex CIA director, said that Bush demanded he find some evidence linking Al-Qaeda and Saddam, even when Tenet assured him no such link existed. That is tantamount to demanding the CIA forge some evidence. "From the very first instance it was about Iraq. I was all about finding away to do it. That was the tone of it: the President saying 'Go find me a way to do this.'" ~ Paul O'Neill, treasury secretary


    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#35)
    by Sailor on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 03:30:40 PM EST
    [Saddam Hussein] throughout the 1990s he tested Washington�s willingness to open a dialogue. On multiple occasions very senior Iraqis close to the President made proposals through intermediaries (the author among others) for dialogue with Washington. Baghdad offered flexibility on many issues, including offers to assist in the Israel-Palestine conflict. Moreover, in informal discussions, senior officials allowed that, if Iraq had a security relationship with the United States, it might be inclined to dispense with WMD programs and/or ambitions.
    Who said that? Why, it was Charles Duelfer in his final report. "This report relays the findings of the Special Advisor to the Director of Central Intelligence on Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction."

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#36)
    by Sailor on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 03:39:52 PM EST
    "But long before the war started, there was plenty of doubt among intelligence analysts about Saddam's weapons." ~ Colin Powell on 60 Minutes 2004-02-04
    "While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein." ~ PNAC (Project for the New American Century) the neocon website 2000-09, Rebuilding American Defenses
    "From a marketing point of view, you don't introduce new products in August," White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr. told the New York Times in September. Card was explaining what the Times characterized as a "meticulously planned strategy to persuade the public, the Congress, and the allies of the need to confront the threat from Saddam Hussein."
    In November, key Pentagon advisor Richard Perle stunned British members of parliament when he told them that even a "clean bill of health" from UN chief weapons inspector Hans Blix would not stop a US attack on Iraq. "Evidence from one witness on Saddam Hussein's weapons program will be enough to trigger a fresh military onslaught,"
    r
    "America is duping the world into believing it supports these inspections," said Peter Kilfoyle, a member of the British Labour party and a former British defense minister. "President Bush intends to go to war even if inspectors find nothing. This makes a mockery of the whole process and exposes America's real determination to bomb Iraq."
    "The Pentagon's critics are appalled that intelligence provided by the INC might shape US decisions about going to war against Baghdad. At the CIA and at the State Department, Ahmed Chalabi, the INC's leader, is viewed as the ineffectual head of a self-inflated and corrupt organization skilled at lobbying and public relations, but not much else."


    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#37)
    by Sailor on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 03:43:03 PM EST
    "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." ~ Dick Cheney, Speech to VFW convention, 2002-08-26 "Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes." ~ Ari Fleisher, Press Briefing, 2003-03-21 "If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world." ~ Ari Fleisher, Press Briefing, 2002-12-02 "Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes." ~ Ari Fleisher, Press Briefing, 2003-03-22


    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#38)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 04:39:24 PM EST
    "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." ~ Dick Cheney, Speech to VFW convention, 2002-08-26
    Project for a misinformational millenium.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#39)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 05:16:40 PM EST
    Sailor - Aint 20-20 hindsight great?

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#40)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 05:36:29 PM EST
    If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
    Donald Rumsfelt on This Week with George Stephanopoplus Just a little mistake, just a little "oops" on that one? Just checking.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#41)
    by Sailor on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 06:32:52 PM EST
    Amazing, I showed bushco comments and proof of their lies before, during and after the war. But just like bush, some commenters continue to lie. For the learning impaired, out of all the links I provided, I'll repeat:
    George Tenet, the ex CIA director, said that Bush demanded he find some evidence linking Al-Qaeda and Saddam, even when Tenet assured him no such link existed.
    That ain't hindsight! Unless 'some commenter' confuses hindsight with his own vision while his head is firmly ensconced.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#42)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 06:42:25 PM EST
    Actually, Jim, he did make the wrong choice. A hundred thousand or so are dead so far. A couple hundred thousand more are maimed for life. That includes about 2300 or so of ours dead in Iraq and about ten times that seriously injured or maimed for life. Oh, and there's no wmd. He was warned, he was told. He lied. They died. We've got a huge hole in the lower Manhattan Skyline and we've almost lost one of the most important Ports and Cities in the Country on this clown prince's watch, so spare me the uneasy lies the head that wears the crown crap. If ya can't take the heat, don't steal the election. He wanted in the game, he struck out. The CIA stole Saddam's signs. They told him what was comin'. They told him he had no stuff at all, but he wouldn't listen. Shooter knew best. If wanted to play T-Ball, he should've stayed on his ranch. If he didn't want to play T-Ball he should've stayed on his ranch. Gee, he can always make amends, take over the Nationals and trade five guys for Sammy Sosa now that he can't play anymore. Oh, and CNN reported earlier that the Army has opened a criminal investigation into the death of Pat Tillman. Gee, what a long strange trip that one's been, eh? From the ultimate All American War Hero, to shrub-exploited PR-Victim of Friendly Fire, to possible murder victim under bizarre circumstances. According to the JAG Officer, Tillman's body armor and uniform were burned immediately. Evidently, that's not Kosher or SOP. Why do you think they'd do such a thing, Jim? Whatever could be their motivation? That's a perfect metaphor for this whole administration. Get someone to buy your BS, get 'em killed for nothin' under bizarre circumstances and try to cover it up while running up massive debt and neglecting legitimate, more pressing concerns in the process. Worst President ever. The undisputed master of disaster.

    Re: Waas: Bush Received Reports Doubting WMDs (none / 0) (#43)
    by Sailor on Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 08:17:19 PM EST
    Standard Bushco: Deny, lie, get caught; comply, reply 'So, what!?'