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Myths About the Graham Habeas Amendment

Here are seventeen myths and distortions about the Graham amendment. To add your voice to the outcry against this legislation, click here.

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  • Re: Myths About the Graham Habeas Amendment (none / 0) (#1)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:07 PM EST
    Those who live in glass houses.....
    Washington has described as flawed and unfair the trial of 15 men in Uzbekistan convicted of leading an Islamist uprising in Andijan...... The fact that the defendants all confessed their guilt on the first day raised concerns that the confessions might have been obtained by torture.
    Do we have a gulag there too? link

    Re: Myths About the Graham Habeas Amendment (none / 0) (#3)
    by john horse on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:08 PM EST
    wg,
    The goal is to give the administration Graham (restriction of access to courts, by nulling relevant Supreme Court rulings) as long as they agree to McCain's anti-torture language.
    Our liberties, including habeas, are not negotiable. Isn't our court system part of our government? When Republicans pass a bill restricting the right to habeas without a hearing and in order to circumvent a decision of the Supreme Court, they demonstrate that they don't really believe in our government.

    Re: Myths About the Graham Habeas Amendment (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:08 PM EST
    Was Habeas ever suspended during WWII? I see a lot about it being suspended by Lincoln during the Civil War, but that fit neatly into the conditions necessary for constitutional suspension (e.g. during times of rebellion). If it wasn't suspended during WWII, how can we possibly argue that suspension is necessary now??

    Re: Myths About the Graham Habeas Amendment (none / 0) (#5)
    by roy on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:06:08 PM EST
    Was Habeas ever suspended during WWII?
    Japanese internment. The captives weren't specifically identified as enemy combatants or accused of crimes, so arguably it was worse than suspending Habeas.