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Cheney Lobbies Against Pentagon Abuse Reform

by TChris

Three Republicans on the Senate Armed Services Committee -- John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and John Warner -- are unhappy that "the Pentagon has failed to hold senior officials and military officers responsible for the abuses that took place" at Abu Ghraib and other prisons. They intend to introduce legislation that would prohibit the military from concealing prisoners from the Red Cross, ban degrading treatment of detainees, and require interrogators to use only approved techniques. All very reasonable, and so of course the Bush administration wants none of it.

In an unusual, 30-minute private meeting on Capitol Hill on Thursday night, [Vice President Dick] Cheney warned three senior Republicans on the Armed Services Committee that their legislation would interfere with the president's authority and his ability to protect Americans against terrorist attacks.

The proposed legislation could be tacked onto the $442 billion Pentagon authorization bill, which will be debated on the Senate floor next week.

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  • Re: Cheney Lobbies Against Pentagon Abuse Reform (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:35 PM EST
    Of course Cheney and Bush Inc. oppose these reforms. If they ignored or endorsed them, it would mean that in their view, something needed to be reformed. This runs directly counter to the first commandment of Bushevism, never admit you did anything wrong, even if it leads to the death of 1600 US troops and uncounted innocent bystanders.

    Re: Cheney Lobbies Against Pentagon Abuse Reform (none / 0) (#2)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:35 PM EST
    Anybody else wish McCain had won the 2000 primaries? We may disagree on a lot, but he is a man of integrity who believes in our ideals. The Bush gang is something else entirely.

    Re: Cheney Lobbies Against Pentagon Abuse Reform (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:35 PM EST
    kdog- everyday. I disagree with McCain on number of issues, but at least I can respect him, unlike the gang currently masquerading as a government.

    Re: Cheney Lobbies Against Pentagon Abuse Reform (none / 0) (#4)
    by theologicus on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:35 PM EST
    If McCain, Graham and Warner proceed after being discouraged by Cheney, it will be an important development toward curtailing torture in U.S. facilities.

    Re: Cheney Lobbies Against Pentagon Abuse Reform (none / 0) (#5)
    by Dadler on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:35 PM EST
    It's no surprise McCain is on this issue, is it? A victim of torture as a POW. I'm not a McCain fan, I actually have trouble respecting him, but on this issue he's in the right. How much in the right we'll see. Because let's remember, when push comes to shove, just like Colin Powell, McCain tends to fold into a lackey and company man.

    Re: Cheney Lobbies Against Pentagon Abuse Reform (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:35 PM EST
    Cheney warned three senior Republicans on the Armed Services Committee that their legislation would interfere with the president's authority and his ability to protect Americans against terrorist attacks.
    Sounds more like it would interfere with our ability to sweep abuses under the rug. Is there any argument other than "We need to be free to torture the enemy," that can be offered in support of what Cheney's doing? I mean, just as a thought exercise, is this anything more than the usual mix of cynical politics and evil?

    Re: Cheney Lobbies Against Pentagon Abuse Reform (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:35 PM EST
    reverse the blockquotes there, obviously...where's the coffee?

    Re: Cheney Lobbies Against Pentagon Abuse Reform (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:36 PM EST
    Adept, try 1782. And Bushliar has STILL not been to a single military funeral. That's because he supports the (perennial deployment of) the troops. He just doesn't give a damn about their families. "Who do these military orphans think they are? My vacations are important to national security."

    Re: Cheney Lobbies Against Pentagon Abuse Reform (none / 0) (#9)
    by john horse on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:36 PM EST
    Given that Cheney is now lobbying to maintain secrecy and torture, would my friends on the right like to explain again how Abu Ghraib was the actions of a few bad apples?

    Where are the rightwingers to comment on this?? Where is their defense of their Admin now? Why are they suddenly so silent? I love rightwing morals; defend what you like, conveniently forget about the rest, eh?

    Re: Cheney Lobbies Against Pentagon Abuse Reform (none / 0) (#11)
    by john horse on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:37 PM EST
    Fenria is like a modern Diogenes hoping to find conservatives who have a conscience in the blogosphere. Keep searching my friend.