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Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008

The California State Democratic Convention took place this weekend. CVCobb01 live-blogged Wesley Clark's speech and sat next to Clark's media advisor. He reports that Clark all but announced he is running in 2008 - enough so that he feels comfortable presenting it as fact:

I was going to put a question mark in the title after talking with General Clark's media advisor Eric. But I didn't hear the question mark. None of us did. I believe Clark announced his candidacy.

Ezra Klein is very enthusiastic about a Clark 2008 run:

Looking back, there's little doubt in my mind that, had Clark entered the primaries when Dean did, he would've won them. I'm also convinced that Kerry/Clark rather than Kerry/Edwards would have taken home the presidential bacon. Kerry thought his resume enough to prove his national security cred; he was wrong.

....Happily, Clark oozes military. It's impossible to imagine the guy anywhere else. And that's the key thing for a Democrat right now. We've got a persistent advantage on domestic issues and the credibility we've built there is attached to the party, any nominee can use it. What we don't have is a party-wide credibility on national security issues; that needs to be brought my the nominee. Luckily, Clark brings it.

I'm a big supporter of Wesley Clark on domestic issues. He's far more enlightened than most Democrats on criminal justice issues (Kucinich excepted, but Kucinich has no chance):

I'm concerned about the lock-up policy, the 3-strikes policy, putting people in jails and the way we've treated people in prison. We've got to look seriously at the American penal system and what it does when it returns people.to the streets." Source: WBUR Public Radio interview Jun 19, 2003

Here's how he would amend the Patriot Act, in his own words:

I will suspend the portions of the Patriot Act that have to do with search and seizure law, and we'll go back to old way with probable cause and judges and warrants, and then we'll take the whole act back to the Congress for legislative review. We will have all the authority we need to protect the country from terrorists, but you can't win the war on terror by giving up the very freedoms we're fighting to protect.

On the death penalty: He's as close as we're going to get to an opponent of the death penalty. He's in favor of a moratorium and he's opposed except in extraordinary cases.

He's open to medical marijuana, although not a supporter.

On the military front, Clark said in 2003 that he'd fire Rumsfeld. He had a three point plan for catching Osama.

And for those who doubt his passion or ability to move a crowd, see my account of the reaction to his speech at the Democratic Convention in Boston last summer.

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  • Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Apr 17, 2005 at 10:24:33 PM EST
    He's a long shot- and he is a bit of a crackpot. Democrats can do better.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Apr 17, 2005 at 10:47:28 PM EST
    Maybe Clark and Powell on the ticket together? Are you sure Clark is a democrat? I am not sure about Powell either for that matter. I can hardly wait.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Apr 17, 2005 at 11:43:54 PM EST
    Well this is not good news, because that other bush will be in the white house in 2009. we will all see camps soon.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#5)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Apr 17, 2005 at 11:51:20 PM EST
    I like Clark. Let's hope he doesn't rehire the dastardly duo Chris Lehane and Mark Fabiani.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#6)
    by scarshapedstar on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 01:05:58 AM EST
    A long shot and a crackpot? Kinda like a draft-dodging cokehead of a one-term governor who cooked the books on his state's education system while it fell apart, and claims not to believe in evolution? Or a failed doctor who's so ludicrously incompetent as to claim that AIDS is transmitted through sweat? Yeah, Americans would never vote for a crackpot.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 01:16:39 AM EST
    Lets concentrate on Congressional races first. We've got way bigger fish to fry in the immediate period. The prez isn't polling well, but neither are Dems. People need a reason to vote Democratic, and they need a message from the party first. Lets see if we can given 'em that in 2006 then plan for 2008 (not to suggest some early strategizing won't help).

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#8)
    by Lindsay on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 03:59:53 AM EST
    I really like Wesley Clark. He should be on a Democrat ticket. I know alot of Republicans that found him very appealing and I believe he could attract crossover votes. I really hope Hillary doesn't get the nomination, because she can't win.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#9)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 04:21:31 AM EST
    Another "Centrist" Democrat ("New Democrat"). Just what we need. Bush lite. I'm sure his candidacy will bring major issues back to the debate. I'm seriously considering voting/volunteering my time for a 3rd party candidate in '08. After the primaries of 2003/4, I will not be dissuaded by false progressive talk that is later transformed to "I'll kill them deader and quicker...vote for me." Even if the thugs have the cojones to nominate Frist, I still refuse to vote for a "Centrist" in '08....that whole principles "thing" has gotten the best of me.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 04:45:27 AM EST
    Clark seems like an interesting possibility. If he wants my vote, however, he needs to run for an elected office he can reasonably win: alderman, sherrif, dogcatcher, whatever. Something where he has to talk to actual voters and face their decision. I said the same thing of Hillary, and while she is still not my favorite person she clearly is a serious candidate after winning a Senate race. Cranky

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#11)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 06:11:35 AM EST
    Could anyone who honestly supports Clark please explain why?

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#12)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 06:55:03 AM EST
    Boxer/Obama

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#13)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 07:17:46 AM EST
    Oy. Can we puh-leeze forget about courting the Reagan Democrats and focus on framing progressive ideas as marketable policy? I like the message of faith in America and it's people and it's founders and it's constitution as a continuum of faith in God, rather than a choice with it. However, if we can get Carl Rove we won't need a message. Is there an anti-Carl out there for us??

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#14)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 07:34:30 AM EST
    Is there an anti-Carl out there for us? Yes, quite a few. They have been running Democratic campaigns for years now.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#15)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 08:23:18 AM EST
    Feingold/Boxer Reid/Boxer Boxer/Feingold Nelson/Reid Daschle/Schumer Feingold/Durbin Feingold/Nelson Reid/Boxer Anyone but Mrs. Clinton.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 08:39:41 AM EST
    What does Clark bring to the table other than former Clinton advisors and no political record at all?

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#17)
    by roger on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 08:57:33 AM EST
    Chasing the "centrist" vote got us Kerry, Lieberman and Clark. None of these guys stood a chance. Run a Democrat who stands for something and we might just win.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#18)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 09:14:22 AM EST
    THE RAW STORY has just reported it's official Lilly Beckmann, my two year old daughter is throwing her diaper into the '48' Presidential race. Her exploratory commitee is to be located in her newly renovated play pen in New York. She is a real charm and is accepting contributions from the toy and baby food lobby only. News at Eleven.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#19)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 09:46:26 AM EST
    One of the reasons I watch CSPAN is just to see Boxer in action. That gal does not mince words. During the Bolton hearings, Obama came on after her. It was like a baby poodle coming on after a cranky bulldog. She reminds me of an early Biden, before Mr. Credit Card was bought out by special interests. But really now - are the American people ready for a female president? Even one who stands for something and speaks in PLAIN ENGLISH, instead of carefully-chosen, pandering, ambiguous, lengthy, boring sentences?

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#20)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 10:13:10 AM EST
    Wes Clark was my guy last time around, so I'm thrilled to hear that he's back in. Wes Clark also supports gay marriage.
    There's no reason why we shouldn't treat all Americans equally no matter what their race, religion or sexual orientation. That's why I welcomed the Massachusetts court decision with open arms. We must always stand by the principle: every American should enjoy the exact same rights as every other American.
    Plus, he's a stong supporter of the arts, he has more diplomatic experience in his little finger than Kerry has in his whole body, and he is actually still interested in catching OBL. Remember OBL? You know, the guy who looks nothing like a certain former Iraqi dictator? TL's right-- he is just about as liberal as he can get without being laughed out of the room like Kucinich. He's strong, charismatic, intelligent, inspiring, handsome (No, it shouldn't count, but it does.), and experienced. Had he gotten boots on the ground in '02 like Dean did, I think he would be our president right now.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#21)
    by Dadler on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 10:20:04 AM EST
    god no, not another military guy. no, no, no!! the democratic party needs imagination and creativity, not another suit with reasonably tolerant views. the u.s. needs an artist at the helm, someone who understands what it is to work your ass off, look at what you've done and say "that's not good enough", then start again, rework, etc.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#22)
    by Dadler on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 10:28:04 AM EST
    this has me so bugged. al franken has a better chance of winning the presidency than wesley clark. i wish i didn't believe this, but i do. clark, nice and presentable as guy tho he may be, is MORE OF THE SAME from the democrats. putting out a white colin powell is NOT going to cut it. let's remember, powell, for all of his expertise, is still too much of a company man and lackey to stand up when it matters and risk something to make a difference. clark strikes me as just the same. and forget this "if he'd started as early as dean" business. DEAN started as early as dean and he got wasted! come on, folks! dubya was as easy a candidate to discredit as as existed in the last half-century and he still couldn't do it, late into the race or no. if he really had something to say, if he really captured our imaginations, it would've happened, late into the race or no. let's find real chops, not recycled old ones. clark is fine, he's not the guy to lead a country as profoundly screwy as the U.S.. It takes someone with a powerful sense of humor AND intellect to do that. not a pol in this country fits that bill, and that is the sad truth.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#23)
    by aw on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 10:39:30 AM EST
    If you're a democrate who doesn't like Clark, you don't know Clark.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#24)
    by aw on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 10:39:58 AM EST
    Oops. Democrat.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#25)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 10:50:30 AM EST
    Liked Clarks positions. But he looked like a deer in the headlights on TV. What do you think he should do about that Ditto? Can he do anything because we know it matters.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#26)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 10:51:38 AM EST
    Maybe if Wes forgot about the Reagan Democrats. Perhaps we could morph Dean and Clark into a viable candidate?? (LOL anyone good at photoshop?)

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#27)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 11:38:27 AM EST
    > Could anyone who honestly supports > Clark please explain why? I don't support Clark, but surely it is clear that one of the major problems the Democrats face (not to mention any group to the left of the DLC) is that the Radical Right can wave the bloody shirt whenever they so choose, and that a good percentage of the US voting population falls in line automatically? How many "terror alerts" have there been since Election Day compared to the 90 days proceeding? I think that tells the tale. So, one way to proceed would be to find a candiate whom the Radicals cannot attack as being "weak on defense". Problem being that Rove will figure out a way to attack that guy anyway, but at least he would start from a strong point. Cranky

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#28)
    by Johnny on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 11:54:43 AM EST
    Good point about the terror alerts, cranky.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#29)
    by jondee on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 12:08:14 PM EST
    Cranky - "It tells a tale." You bet your a** it does. Absolutely boggles the mind that the "rock-solid-values" crowd can support such an obvious bunch of the kind of Machievellians that would encourage and exploit the the primal fears of the traumatized post-9/11 nation. The most relevant question seems to be how low are they willing to go?

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#30)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 12:20:25 PM EST
    anon, Are Americans ready...come on it's not a push-up contest, the Boxer can debate with the best. Democrats need to take the lead on this. Intellegence, a refreshing change...it's been lacking so long. A woman, a Jew and a Black the party of inclusion. Boxer/Obama

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#32)
    by Kitt on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 12:43:59 PM EST
    I think Clark waited too long when entering the fray before and seemed unprepared at times.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#33)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 01:10:57 PM EST
    Clark stands for nothing beyond what he thinks he needs stand for in order to get elected. While most Generals are (and always will be) pompous asses, he was one of the worst, and one who was more than willing to trample on or steal credit from anyone in order to reach the top. I would prefer Hillary to Clark, because I consider her to at least be sane and possessing a good degree of Common Sense. So far I count Clark, Hillary, Kerry, & Edwards in the race- Clark has already destroyed his chances by announcing his intent 3 and 1/2 years before the election, Kerry is a joke, and Edwards has no platform to run from (washed up, out of office). If you guys want to beat Hillary, you better come up with someone else. Looking over anon's list of names, I think Schumer, Fiengold, and the Nelsons (he didn't specify, but either would be fairly strong) are the best ones listed. Boxer is laughable at best- why not Feinstein?

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#34)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 01:39:26 PM EST
    Kitt-- that was exactly the problem. Remember, his campaign started without him--it was originally the Draft Wesley Clark campaign, and the main reason that people started that campaign is that he was so impressive on TV as a CNN analyst on terrorism and the Iraq situation. He's been through a nationwide campaign now. He has a lot of practice, and that will be good for him during the next campaign. And he's not a company yes-man... There is a reason he is no longer the NATO Supreme Allied Commander: He went over the heads of the JCS and told Clinton and the heads of state at other NATO allies that cruise missiles might not be enough to prevail in Kosovo, and that NATO should be prepared to put in ground troops. He was also one of the very few people in the military who would give Clinton the time of day, and he was universally despised because of that. While Colin Powell worked to subvert Clinton and make him look like a fool, Wes Clark did what he could to educate Clinton on the political and military realities of the world. And as for whether he is a Democrat or not--consider that he is the son of a Chicago lawyer and Democratic politician, and the grandson of a Russian Jew who fled to America to escape the pogroms. While he never got to know his father well while he was alive (he died when Clark was 4), it's in the blood! An anti-Rove? There are several people in the DNC who would fit that bill, but the one that comes most clearly to mind is former Governor of California Gray Davis. I can't think of anyone in the party who is quite as ruthless and amoral as he--remember the commercials comparing Diane Feinstein to Leona Helmsley? He's truly disgusting. He's exactly the type of operative who would be doing Rove's job if his narcissism hadn't caused him to make himself the candidate rather than working for the party. It's exactly the type we want to avoid. Brilliant tacticians are good, but amoral, ambitious power mongers are the last thing this country needs.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#35)
    by Kitt on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 01:51:46 PM EST
    "Remember, his campaign started without him--it was originally the Draft Wesley Clark campaign, and the main reason that people started that campaign is that he was so impressive on TV as a CNN analyst on terrorism and the Iraq situation." Well, his forthrightness on CNN impressed me. I just remembering a lot of hmmming & hawwing about running. At any rate, I like him.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#36)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 02:00:17 PM EST
    Do not overlook this growing Democratic Party problem: Did this come true? And where will the continuation of this trend get you? In this light, does it matter who the Democrats pick if they do not re-evaluate some key positions?

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#37)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 02:31:50 PM EST
    An entire raft of comments, and not a flash of clarity in the bunch. WE DON'T HAVE LEGAL ELECTIONS ANY MORE. 28 states have NO RECOUNT RIGHT. So how ANY Dem is going to transform getting elected into getting inaugurated is the big three dollar question, not whether Clark wants to run in three years. In 2007, the SCOTUS will declare the 22nd Amendment unconstitutional. Either we fight to get our voting rights back, or the next elected Dem will get the same treatment as the last two elected Dems: Gore AND Kerry, both of whom won a legal election handily. Jesse Jackson Jr.'s 28th Amendment, specifying a constitutional right to vote (and vote for president) is CRUCIAL to our democracy. The only way that is going to go through is with MASSIVE grassroots effort. Every state that has been Diebolded has to be FREED. JCF, if you believe crap in the Wash. Times, there's no helping you.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#38)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 02:47:46 PM EST
    The most relevant question seems to be how low are they willing to go?
    how ever low it is, there still digging!
    Brilliant tacticians are good, but amoral, ambitious power mongers are the last thing this country needs.
    disagree md, the dems need to get real ugly about this, the next few election cycles will define if america (the idea) survives, were at that point were "the end justifies the means", we need col. Kurtz!

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#39)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 02:55:47 PM EST
    Clark was one of the only voices in the Pentagon crying out for action to stop the Rwanda genocide. Samantha Power (A Problem from Hell) credits Clark with saving 100,000s of lives through the Kosovo NATO bombing campaign. I support John Kerry, who just won the 2004 election by a landslide. But Clark has the credentials to easily get my vote if it comes down to that. The issue is not my vote; the issue is GETTING THE VOTES COUNTED, and getting the right to have elected presidents. Bush and his cronies have violated the most precious part of democracy: the peaceful transition of power following a legal election. Down with Diebold, ES&S, Triad, and all the rest.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#40)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 03:06:24 PM EST
    if you believe crap in the Wash. Times, there's no helping you.
    Amazing. They were reporting the results of a poll by a pro-choice group that says the country is shifting pro-life - complete with quotes by someone who was head of Planned Parenthood for 10 years - and you say its crap. wow

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#41)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 03:13:56 PM EST
    Paul is right - the number one thing is to get our voting rights back. Number two is confronting the WHORES at cable "news." We could run and win with a smirking chimp if we had control of those two things.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#42)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 03:36:36 PM EST
    When we stop thinking about ways to win a fixed game or ways to deceive people who don't agree with our values, we can work out amongst ourselves what our collective left-of-center values are. It will be at that point, we can define the platform for a candidate to run. Just because somebody has a "D" next to their name doesn't mean they they share your values and deserve your money/unfettered support. I didn't vote for Nader because Kerry had a political background to the left of the "New Democrats". I was still unhappy with his platform and frankly disgusted by the latter points of his campaign. There's a difference between compromising your values for the greater good and supporting an opportunistic liar. I am not sure if Wes Clark is what he says he is, but his background doesn't illustrate any record of opposing War Corporatism - just implementing it.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#43)
    by Lindsay on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 07:16:43 PM EST
    In view of the fact that in both elections Bush was losing according to the exit polls. First time the pundits were wrong, makes one wonder if Democrats will ever be able to regain power because of voter fraud!!

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#44)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 08:17:17 PM EST
    Lindsay makes one wonder if Democrats will ever be able to regain power because of voter fraud!! Don't despair, you just have to register more Dead People :-) Worked in Washington State. And elsewhere.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#45)
    by aw on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 08:54:15 PM EST
    Republicans are scared sh**less of Clark. I skim right over their comments. Frankly, I don't give a s**t what repubs think.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#46)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Apr 18, 2005 at 11:41:06 PM EST
    aw- Far from it- in general, we fear any of the sing kumbayah crowd getting anywhere close to the oval office. Lieberman was the only one with the right National Security outlook last go around I wouldn't have feared for the future idf he had been elected. Until Dems get a clue on how the world works and what it takes to defend the Nat'l Interest (or even figure out what that is, for starters), they will continue to lose.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#47)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Apr 19, 2005 at 02:59:51 PM EST
    Posted by Tampa Student: "I didn't vote for Nader because Kerry had a political background to the left of the "New Democrats"." Gee, the fact that Nader had/s ZERO chance of being elected doesn't bother you? Nader's R ties are growing by the day, even during the current coups. Doesn't that bother you? Or does having an anti-military LINE do it for you, forget the reality? " I was still unhappy with his platform and frankly disgusted by the latter points of his campaign." I wonder if you watched the first debate? You know, the one where Kerry handed Bush his arse, AND outed the USPNAC airbases-scheme to 60 million Americans? " There's a difference between compromising your values for the greater good and supporting an opportunistic liar." Opportunistic liar? That's pretty damn harsh. Signing up to go face machine gun fire for his country wasn't exactly 'opportunistic.' " I am not sure if Wes Clark is what he says he is, but his background doesn't illustrate any record of opposing War Corporatism - just implementing it." It must be nice with your head in a hole in the ground, but in case you haven't noticed, the US has a $500+ Billion military budget, and that's not going to change any time soon. If you want someone to blow soapbubbles up your arse, vote for Bush. Kerry did his best with a bad situation, and he WON -- but that just didn't matter, because we no longer have the right to elect presidents by voting, until we take it back. Read it again: Clark was one of the few voices in the Pentagon crying out for intercession in Rwanda. Either we stop genocides or we do not. If we do, it requires a military. Attacking disarmed countries and occupying them in order to dismantle them for airbases is not something that Clark or Kerry supported.

    Re: Looks Like Wesley Clark Is In For 2008 (none / 0) (#48)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Apr 19, 2005 at 03:02:48 PM EST
    "Until Dems get a clue on how the world works and what it takes to defend the Nat'l Interest (or even figure out what that is, for starters), they will continue to lose." We have won every election this millenium, Gerry. You steal elections, and then crow over the crime. REALLY disgusting.

    This is War Peacock! (none / 0) (#49)
    by Clarkie08 on Tue Oct 17, 2006 at 06:36:35 PM EST
    Wesley Clark definitely has a Strong Chance in 2008.  He was Valedictorian at West Point, Rhodes Scholar at Oxford just like Bill Clinton and he's likeable, a good speaker, 4 Star General.......This is War Peacock!  He already has streets named after him in ours and other countries as well.  He will get us out of Iraq....and he is a Moderate candidate who is concerns with issues at home.  The more people know about him, the more they like him.  He will get many votes from both sides.  That's why we support Wesley Clark.

    Strong Intelligent Leadership (none / 0) (#50)
    by sternk13 on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 02:47:34 AM EST
    I'm not sure where some of the people posting comments about Clark are coming from.  He's the smartest, brightest, most articulate candidate who ran for 2004.  Anybody who disputes this needs to go back and study the tapes.  If only the American people would wise up and vote for somone articulate, with real military experience, to be our next commander in chief.