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Capitol Threat for Thursday: House Cancels Sessions

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Posted on Wed Mar 03, 2021 at 08:57:31 PM EST
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Due to the threat of a new assault at the Capitol for tommorrow, the House of Representatives has canceled its planned sessions.

Leaving nothing to chance, House leaders on Wednesday abruptly moved a vote on policing legislation from Thursday to Wednesday night, so lawmakers could leave town, according to a senior Democratic aide familiar with the planning.

The Capitol Police issued a release that says:

“We have obtained intelligence that shows a possible plot to breach the Capitol by an identified militia group on Thursday, March 4,” the force said in a statement. “We are taking the intelligence seriously.”

Runaway is the new policy for responding to terror threats? That's not a sign of strength.

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    Very (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by FlJoe on Thu Mar 04, 2021 at 04:18:57 PM EST
    interesting
    "Federal investigators are examining records of communications between members of Congress and the pro-Trump mob that attacked the US Capitol, as the investigation moves closer to exploring whether lawmakers wittingly or unwittingly helped the insurrectionists," CNN reported Thursday, citing "a US official briefed on the matter."

    "The data gathered so far includes indications of contact with lawmakers in the days around January 6, as well as communications between alleged rioters discussing their associations with members of Congress, the official said.



    Total overreaction. Nothing at all. (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Peter G on Fri Mar 05, 2021 at 06:35:38 PM EST
    I am now worried about the push for a "domestic terror groups" List of some kind. We tried "Lists" in the 1950s (Communist and Communist-front organizations). Nothing but bad consequences comes from that. Law enforcement should not go after "groups" -- no matter how vile -- or their members, as such. Police, FBI, whatever, should investigate crimes and people who commit or actively plan crimes. They should not investigate people who seem in some way "dangerous."

    Previously (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 05, 2021 at 07:00:08 PM EST
    Graham is talking to Wray about "lists" (none / 0) (#194)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 02, 2021 at 10:09:12 AM EST

    Wray was trying to explain there's no way to designate a domestic terror list under current law.
    So Graham starts talking about lists.

    This focus on domestic terror is good and necessary but it's going to lead to bad stuff.



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    Too late. (none / 0) (#10)
    by Chuck0 on Fri Mar 05, 2021 at 07:33:27 PM EST
    Police have been arresting and trying members of motorcycle clubs for decades merely for being members of said motorcycle clubs. See Waco, TX, May 17, 2015 for reference. 177 were arrested and 155 were indicted mostly for the crime of being bikers who wore patches on their back (the charge was organized crime). BTW, no one was convicted. All charges were eventually dropped. But that took nearly four years. Abel Reyna, the DA of McLennan County, TX was thrown out of office the following election.

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    Glad they weren't convicted (none / 0) (#11)
    by Peter G on Fri Mar 05, 2021 at 07:54:15 PM EST
    I have two cases on appeal now that involve aggregations of minor drug dealers who happen to live and sell in the same general neighborhoods, designated under the RICO law (like the bikers) as "organized crime" groups (a/k/a "gangs") -- that is, "organizations" named and defined by the government, that the "members" never thought existed -- and receiving ridiculous (20 year etc.) sentences by aggregating everyone's individual crimes and blaming all of them for the total.

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    I might be wrong Peter (none / 0) (#14)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Mar 08, 2021 at 03:53:04 PM EST
    But I think that those responsible for Capitol security are attempting to project a posture of renewed strength. These are hardened targets for awhile. It hurts my heart that January 6th revealed how soft and open the Capitol was.

    They are going to have to do something extra though with the tunnels under the Capitol. I wish it wasn't current common knowledge that they exist.

    They even have the Pentagon perimetered now. Which I thought was funny when they did it, but miffed a whole bunch of people inside the building. But they still got a temporary big ole fence. Too bad Pentagon, ya'll shouldn't have had Fox News on for the past 20 yrs. You did it to yourselves.

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    I am very concerned about the assumption (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by Peter G on Mon Mar 08, 2021 at 07:30:07 PM EST
    that the military is or ought to be available to serve as an auxiliary domestic police force, even for the protection of federal buildings. Totally inappropriate, and often illegal under the posse comitatus law, even as modified by the Insurrection Act.

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    They are halving (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Mar 09, 2021 at 07:29:02 PM EST
    The Guard numbers deployed to the Capitol on Friday

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    I am concerned about that too (none / 0) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Mar 08, 2021 at 09:08:13 PM EST
    And normalizing it

    But everyone is tired of what has happened downtown. It's really ugly and depressing. On the Nextdoor app people are expressing a lot of grieving and upset about what has been lost to everyone, the look, the feel, and having lunch on the Capitol lawn when the weather improves a few degrees. I don't think this lasts. I do think they try to come up with and install a retractable barrier for the Capitol of some kind.

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    They have no idea (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 07, 2021 at 08:55:52 PM EST
    what to do next.

    Said Graham: "To me, Donald Trump is sort of a cross between Jesse Helms, Ronald Reagan and P.T. Barnum."

    He added: "He could make the Republican Party something that nobody else I know can make it. He can make it bigger. He can make it stronger. He can make it more diverse. And he also could destroy it."

    They are starting to talk like characters in a slasher movie whos job it is to make bad decisions.

    Graham (none / 0) (#13)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Mar 08, 2021 at 06:12:10 AM EST
    is on point in part of that but the one thing Trump cannot do is make the GOP bigger or stronger or more diverse. At best Trump can help them maintain what they have but there is not much growth in the white rural vote. Even here in GA 2 years ago when Kemp won he did it strictly on the rural vote and some in the GA GOP were saying depending on declining areas for wins is not a future.

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    Cease and detest (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 08, 2021 at 05:35:09 PM EST
    "The Republican National Committee is denying a cease-and-desist demand from Donald Trump's attorneys, who asked the party organization to stop using the former president's name and likeness in fundraising appeals," Politico reports.

    "Trump attorneys sent letters to a cadre of GOP committees asking them stop using Trump in fundraising appeals, including the National Republican Senatorial Committee and the National Republican Congressional Committee. Other groups loosely affiliated with the party have also received notices."



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    So what's the significance of March 4... (none / 0) (#1)
    by desertswine on Wed Mar 03, 2021 at 11:45:51 PM EST
    Is it Goering's birthday or something?

    Until 1933, when the 20th Amendment was (none / 0) (#2)
    by Peter G on Thu Mar 04, 2021 at 12:38:06 AM EST
    adopted, March 4 was Inauguration Day. So, if you're a real, true-blue (anti-Blue) reactionary, opposed to every reform enacted in or since the New Deal, it's the day when the Real President takes over. Or something like that.

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    They are also (none / 0) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 04, 2021 at 07:58:39 AM EST
    mixing in stuff about how no president has been legitimate since Lincoln or something.

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    Sorry, Grant (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 04, 2021 at 08:05:03 AM EST
    link

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    Bury my phone at Wounded Knee (none / 0) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 04, 2021 at 09:44:43 AM EST
    The man known as the "QAnon Shaman," who was seen shirtless and wearing bull horns in the U.S. Capitol during the deadly rioting on Jan. 6, told 60 Minutes+ from jail that he was "wounded" that former President Trump did not try to help him.

    Said Jacob Chansley: "I honestly believed and still believe that he cares about the Constitution, that he cares about the American people, and that's also why and you know it wounded me so deeply and why it disappointed me so greatly that I and others did not get a pardon."

    link

    The House (none / 0) (#7)
    by KeysDan on Thu Mar 04, 2021 at 04:25:22 PM EST
    leadership may not be worried by the external  "breach" of the Capitol by militia groups as much as by the internal collaboration  with, or sympathies of, so many members of the Republican caucus.  The January 6 sacking of the Capitol and the threatening of Democrats' well-being is fresh in mind and is likely to disrupt the trust placed  in some colleagues.

    The Democratic House has gotten much done so far this session.   A cautionary day off should not be an impediment to continued legislative work.  Terrorism does cause terror, especially if you may be required to work with the terrorists.  Appeasing foreign terrorists may be a sign of weakness; thwarting possible assistance by insiders seems smart.

    Jane Mayer (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 12, 2021 at 03:25:57 PM EST
    on Trump and Vance and what might happen next

    Trump has already demonstrated a willingness to engage in almost unthinkable tactics to protect himself. Among his social circle in Palm Beach, speculation abounds that Florida's Republican governor, Ron DeSantis, an ally, might not honor an extradition request from New York if a bench warrant were issued for Trump's arrest. Dave Aronberg, the state's attorney for Palm Beach County, doubts that such defiance would stand. Extradition, he points out, is a constitutional duty, and a governor's role in it is merely "ministerial." But he admitted that the process might not go smoothly: "You know what? I thought January 6th would go smoothly. Congress's role was just ministerial then, too." (DeSantis did not respond to a request for comment.)

    She says the investigation will probably be done before Cy leaves Dec 31st

    Will he charge?

    It gas happened before. (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Chuck0 on Fri Mar 12, 2021 at 05:33:59 PM EST
    CA Gov. Jerry Brown refused to extradite Dennis Banks (AIM activist) to South Dakota back in the 1970s.

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    8 (none / 0) (#20)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 12, 2021 at 04:18:24 PM EST
    Senior officials in the Manhattan district attorney's office this week asked former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen to return for what would be his 8th interview with the office, CNBC reports.



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