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What pols do in their private lives, absent legal or ethical issues, is not my business.

What is my business is what they do about public policy.

YMMV.

UPDATE: He admits everything. Apologizes. Not resigning.

Speaking for me only

Update (TL): Anthony Weiner lied for days with a straight face. I think he's toast.

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    My god, this is all so stupid. (5.00 / 5) (#3)
    by Tony on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:17:14 PM EST
    If my twitter feed is correct, Andrew Breitbart has actually hijacked the press conference and is holding court.

    Can Geithner please send an inappropriate picture to someone?  Seems the only way to get the media's attention.

    And Breitbart got national TV time on NBC tonight- (5.00 / 1) (#92)
    by jawbone on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 05:46:19 PM EST
    Damn it, Weiner, you effed up big time on handling this. OMG.

    OK, so he needed time to confess to his wife, but why so much more time, so many words that have to be taken back and apologized for???

    And...he let supporters get out there using tech clues to say he'd been hacked and maligned.

    Also, how did Breitbart get all this info? That may have been a result of hacking? Or just some of the women talking about his...weiner?

    It's tough supporting any of our pols nowadays. Regarding Anthony Weiner, I kinda gave up on him when he promised to bring single payer to a vote in committee, then backed off after some promise from Pelosi about offering a vote on the floor of the House.

    That never happened -- and Weiner didn't make any stink about that.  So, I kinda wrote him off as a glory seeker (from the left) and more talk than action.

    Actions are speaking a lot more clearly to me than any words.  

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    Although, to be fair (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by jbindc on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:23:09 PM EST
    It does show the level of (or lack of) judgment these people use.  In this day and age, politicians should know that their every word and every move is monitored and probably caught on video and there is always someone willing to sell them out in a heartbeat.  If they can't be smart about this, should we really trust them with our safety, security, and money?

    Their legislation.... (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by kdog on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:28:17 PM EST
    is all the proof we need they can't be trusted.

    When nonsense like this pops up, all it proves is that they are human.  I don't mind personal flaws, if you can even call this a flaw, if the representation is sound.

    This isn't a Spitzer, where there were legit questions and issues raised...this is just nonsense, so far anyway.

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    I'd still trust (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by CST on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:29:33 PM EST
    Wiener over 99% of congresspeople with my "safety, security, and money" at least 99% of the time.

    Regardless of what pics he may or may not have.

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    I was speaking (none / 0) (#8)
    by jbindc on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:32:51 PM EST
    To the general proposition of all the politicians who get caught up in this kind of stuff.

    Seriously - these are supposed to be smart people.  You don't see the ones that are perceived to be not as smart getting into these kinds of scandals...

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    Ahem ... Mark Sanford? (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Nemi on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:48:50 PM EST
    You don't see the ones that are perceived to be not as smart getting into these kinds of scandals...


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    I was thinking more (none / 0) (#27)
    by jbindc on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:54:51 PM EST
    of the Palins and Bachmanns of the world.  But that could be because they are females, and there aren't too many female politicians who get embroiled in sex scandals - not nearly as many as male politicians.

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    Nobody is a genius.... (none / 0) (#22)
    by kdog on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:50:01 PM EST
    24/7/365...we all slip.

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    A lot of varied opinions on this (none / 0) (#76)
    by republicratitarian on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:39:22 PM EST
    I'm with you, we all make mistakes, some more than others. How you deal with them means just as much to me. Man up and move on.

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    Yup (none / 0) (#169)
    by cal1942 on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:56:43 PM EST
    How can any public figure think they won't get caught in this age?

    When he was on Rachel Maddow last week I told my wife that his answer to her question (could that be a picture of you) was not convincing.

    For each of us who don't care what pols do in their private lives there are thousands who think other wise.

    He should have come clean immediately.

    Parent

    well, (5.00 / 4) (#15)
    by bocajeff on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:43:17 PM EST
    I would much prefer a person to simply say "it's none of your business" than to outright lie about something.

    This (none / 0) (#17)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:44:19 PM EST
    But once he lied, he basically had to admit to everything.

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    its so silly (none / 0) (#66)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:25:17 PM EST
    did everyone now know by the way he was acting this press conference was coming?

    he couldnt be SURE the bulging briefs pic was not him?  come on.

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    I never gave it a thought (5.00 / 2) (#75)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:39:01 PM EST
    I really did not care.

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    its been sort of a slow news (none / 0) (#82)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:48:52 PM EST
    week.

    the thing is I dont care either but I still knew

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    Bottom Line (none / 0) (#100)
    by AngryBlackGuy on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:02:45 PM EST
    Breitbart won today.  I doubted him and thought this was headed nowhere and then Weiner delivered form him.

    I don't blame the media for reporting a story like this.  If Weiner were a republican, Maddow and others would be all over it tonight.

    This time our guy screwed up.  We just have to take it on the chin and move on.  Weiner deserves all the abuse he's going to get.

    He had an option to avoid this:

    1. Stay single

    or

    2. Don't be stupid and arrogant

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    Well that's what my husband said (5.00 / 1) (#193)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:51:47 PM EST
    But it is my job to help him understand that sometimes he's wrong.  And I'm unemployed right now :)

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    You're not unemployed . . . (5.00 / 2) (#195)
    by nycstray on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:57:31 PM EST
    you're just way underpaid  ;)

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    Well (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by lilburro on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:51:32 PM EST
    I hope Rep. Weiner has the backbone to stay in office (I know he says he will now, but still).  He's not stomping on anyone's rights or promising anything in particular (to us, his wife may or may not feel differently) regarding his social life so hopefully he'll weather the storm.

    I still find the whole nude shots/sexts phenomenon funny though.

    He may not be able to run for mayor of NYC however (none / 0) (#93)
    by jawbone on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 05:49:17 PM EST
    That election is in 2013. He may be able to do really good work in the House between now and then, but, still, this will stick in the craw of many voters.

    I think there might be issues in his home district, which, per a commenter I read somewhere, has become more conservative of late.

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    Also, why can't Democrats (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by observed on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:08:30 PM EST
    remind people about Vitter?

    Well, the cases are very different. (5.00 / 3) (#44)
    by KeysDan on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:14:39 PM EST
    In one it was gray unders, and the other, it was white diapers.

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    It is my fervent hope that this episode (5.00 / 5) (#48)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:16:11 PM EST
    hastens the day when 'sexting' seems juvenile even to 13 yr olds. I can't think of a more ridiculous pastime.

    God do I ever agree (5.00 / 9) (#185)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:23:52 PM EST
    WTF is wrong with everybody anymore.  Get over your naked, semi naked, sexy self.  I'm so sick of this baloney.  Everybody is acting like a damned teenaged freakshow in public anymore.  It's only sex.  It isn't worth all this and I don't really want to see everybody else's.  I have mine, and I chose who I share with carefully...made sure it was what I really wanted and all that.  Keep yer damned Wiener shots to yourself.  Send them to your wife for Christ's sake if you must take and send out Wiener shots and be married and be in public service.  Everybody is a damned exhibitionist anymore, get some boundaries, grow up.

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    You said it girl (5.00 / 3) (#190)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:42:58 PM EST
    I find it hard to believe that even women like you, who have undergone long separations from their loved one, are all that enthused about a 'junk' tweet.

    and if you are I don't want to know!

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    I expect his wife and family are hurt. (5.00 / 6) (#59)
    by oculus on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:22:20 PM EST


    Huh? (5.00 / 2) (#176)
    by mudlark on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:05:14 PM EST
    Donald: I've no idea why you shared this personal rant, or why you feel it's acceptable to use words like "bulldyke," "large Marge" and other offensive, ancient, and hostile stereotypes on this blog. If anything, this only speaks to the wisdom of thinking carefully before you hit the "send" key. Otherwise, I fail to see what any of this has in common with the topic of this blog post. Stereotypic slurs offend me. And they should offend everybody who isn't a homophobic bigot.

    Aloha to you too.

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    I stopped reading at (5.00 / 3) (#186)
    by Anne on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:25:26 PM EST
    "bulldyke truck driver;" too bad you didn't stop typing before you unleashed that offensive stereotype and - apparently - went on to follow up with more.

    You're really on a roll these days.

    Parent

    Ya missed out Anne... (5.00 / 1) (#197)
    by kdog on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 10:24:44 PM EST
    it's a great comment...and the moral I got is we all have let emotions...those pesky human emotions...get the better of us sometimes.

    Sexual emotions, love emotions, pain and heartache emotions, hate emotions...show me the person who hasn't let any and all of the above cloud their judgement and do/say some stupid sh*t, and I'll show you a robot.

    And as for pols, they are no different.

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    I would be devastated (5.00 / 3) (#187)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:34:55 PM EST
    Wimpy stupid democrat (5.00 / 4) (#84)
    by loveed on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 05:00:00 PM EST
     I hate that  privacy as a right has disappeared.
     This was so stupid. Being a democrat he had to know he would get caught,they always do(Bill Clinton,John Edwards,Jesse Jackson,ect...) And it always come out a convent time, to discredit whatever the true big issue of the day.
     Arnold can hide a child for 14yrs,never came out while he was governor.Sen. Ensign he paid off his lover and her husband(got the money from his father) have you read any of the testimony from the ethic committee(one Sen. called him at his lover hotel room,after he promised never to see her again,pull your pants up and get the h--l out of there.He sexually harassed her during committee meetings. He actually thought he could keep his senate seat after all of this. Should we even discuss Sen. Vitter, I think not.Even the child molester from florida did not resign.
     But I'm betting that there will be democrats calling for his resignation.

    Frat Boyz (5.00 / 4) (#86)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 05:26:58 PM EST
    It seems that both sides of the aisle are a bunch of frat boyz with little or no basic impulse control.  

    Really Weiner?  You took a picture and sent it via Twitter to someone you did not know?  Please, he may be on our side, but this makes him a super, duper buffoon.  

    We are in desperate times and the guy drops his pants and brains.  

    Look, if that's the worst he's done, (5.00 / 1) (#95)
    by observed on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 05:51:51 PM EST
    I can guarantee you he is the most virtuous male Congressman in 100 years.
    They ALL use hookers, masseuses, etc..
    and I DO NOT CARE.


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    No, I don't care. (5.00 / 2) (#99)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:01:01 PM EST
    He used the people that defended him.  That I care about.  I do care that one of our golden boys proves to be a frat boy.  

    Anyway, what is it with New York Congressmen and not understanding how social networks work?  The other one got busted with Craigslist pictures of himself.  


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    I don't care about the "what," I care (5.00 / 5) (#172)
    by Anne on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:00:54 PM EST
    that he was one of the few who showed any interest in pushing Obama from the left, and that has just been completely neutralized.  And that is a two-fer: it works for both the GOP and the WH.  So, great - Anthony Weiner: another liberal who helped take himself out.

    I guess the ego eventually rules all; why else would someone with so much potential risk all of that, and his credibility, for whatever thrill there was in the sexting?  

    We are being given fewer and fewer reasons to bother voting.

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    That's what bothers me the most (5.00 / 2) (#178)
    by nycstray on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:11:49 PM EST
    why couldn't it have been a DINO/ B-Dawg . . .

    I have to give props to Rep B Lee (D-Oakland, Ca) today on a local talk show. First 2 questions were about this and she pivoted hard and nicely to the issues of jobs/economy/ending the wars. Basically said it was between him/his wife/constituents, and she was more concerned with her people, the nation and the noted issues. She was pretty good.

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    Ok. I just think people are (none / 0) (#102)
    by observed on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:06:13 PM EST
    incredibly stupid in their expectations of public figures.
    Let me put it this way: what percentage of males will cheat on their spouses, given easy access to attractive women? Leaving aside the gays, I would say pretty much 100%, over time.


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    Women (5.00 / 1) (#105)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:14:36 PM EST
    cheat just as much, but we tend to have some internal self preservation controls and less arrogance.  

    What gets men is hubris.  

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    It does sometimes seem like (5.00 / 1) (#188)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:38:55 PM EST
    men have more hubris to me but I think that is because I'm female.  All this sexting in real life terms seems pretty 50/50 to me.  I just finished a female teenager, my God they were all doing it.  I think women can be just as bad as men about having poorly functioning sexual boundaries.

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    What's with being a NY congressman (none / 0) (#125)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:55:16 PM EST
    and STILL not understanding that it's not the misbehavior that gets you so much as it is the cover-up?


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    Honestly (5.00 / 1) (#117)
    by lilburro on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:42:17 PM EST
    I don't think it sounds all that fratboy-ish..."sexy" texts and pics are common these days, period, and it sounds like he had been flirting with these women over a long period of time.  I mean, he knew how many there were (6), for example.  He sent a picture of himself (clothed!) with his cats, and a weird picture of himself pointing out himself with a cute puppy in the background.  Kind of dorky.  At least, what we've seen is kind of dorky.  

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    The cats were an aid (5.00 / 1) (#127)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:56:10 PM EST
    to using an otherwise naughty word.

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    I realize that (none / 0) (#159)
    by lilburro on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:42:22 PM EST
    I still think it's dorky.

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    A lot more than one (none / 0) (#124)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:54:26 PM EST
    He's apparently been amusing himself by doing this stuff with numerous women he's never met for years.

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    So what? (5.00 / 1) (#126)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:55:31 PM EST
    So what? (5.00 / 2) (#132)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:02:45 PM EST
    I tell you what.  I don't care but he risked a lot of issues that I care about by being sloppy.  

    He exposed a lot of people who defended him.  That is the so what.  The Craiglist Congressman, Lee quit.  

    No one should waste one ounce of blood defending him.  

    Parent

    OK, whatever you say Lucianne (5.00 / 1) (#135)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:06:35 PM EST
    Ouch... (none / 0) (#147)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:22:05 PM EST
    cut me to the bone.  Really?  

     

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    Yes, really (none / 0) (#150)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:24:30 PM EST
    So what? (5.00 / 1) (#155)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:31:37 PM EST
    So it's not just one tweet or one fantasy romance, it's a habit.

    I'm with you, I honestly don't care much personally.  I know how the male sex drive works, try as my sisters might to pretend it doesn't work that way.  I don't like it a whole lot, but it's just a fact of life hard-wired into the genes, and I'm decades past being shocked by it.

    What does shock me is the rank stupidity of taking the risk to indulge these little games.

    But what shocks me isn't the point.  It's what shocks Da Media and the voters, who are overall quite a bit less sanguine about this than I am.

    One pic/tweet he might be able to survive, though the lie about being hacked is another matter.  But unlikely he can survive years worth of unknown babes coming forward with raunchy pictures and messages.

    That's the "so what."

    Parent

    It's not about the genitals (5.00 / 2) (#161)
    by Stellaaa on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:43:08 PM EST
    it's about being so stupid and arrogant when it comes to social media and then using the people who defended him.  

    I find the cavalier "so what" to be a slap to the face of all the naive liberals who defended him.  Who bought the " I was hacked" story.  Sexual indiscretion is one thing, not being a mensch and creating a wild goose chase, is another.  

    This is not a so what.  

    Parent

    In other words, the "what" (none / 0) (#156)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:36:13 PM EST
     is the freakshow. Well, sorry, but I'm not buying.

    Parent
    You're not buying what? (5.00 / 3) (#202)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 11:27:36 PM EST
    You're not making any sense.

    Whether or not it should be (love that word), this is a major flap that Weiner may very well not survive politically.  If there's nothing more than what we already know about, which unfortunately I now doubt, he might barely survive, but he will not be mayor of NYC any time soon and he's massively undercut as a spokesman for anything.

    It makes me nuts because he's one of the very few voices on the actual left of U.S. politics who's both shrill and effective.


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    I had to break down and watch Hardball (none / 0) (#158)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:42:19 PM EST
    tonight. All Tweety's guests agreed that basically the media is going to keep at him until he resigns.

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    Shame on them (5.00 / 2) (#160)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:42:57 PM EST
    Oh but you see they have to make sure (5.00 / 1) (#167)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:53:58 PM EST
    all of the women were 'of age'.

    And now I resume my NBC boycott.

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    Meh (none / 0) (#164)
    by lilburro on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:46:05 PM EST
    they probably don't even remember what they were talking about at the top of the hour.  I think the media will eventually give up once this becomes boring and the House Ethics Committee gets to work.  

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    I feel sick to my stomach (5.00 / 3) (#90)
    by kenosharick on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 05:38:54 PM EST
    not over the pics- who cares? But he is a pol I have long respected and I spent the last week defending him to every right-winger I know. I never believed for a second that he was not hacked. I am that naive? Also, my first thought was he must resign or this will go on and on..., but after reading many of these comments I'm just not sure.

    yes (none / 0) (#196)
    by markw on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 10:01:34 PM EST
    Yes, you are that naive.  First, he couldn't even say that the photo wasn't his.  And then, more importantly, he refused to report the matter to legal authorities, who could have determined within half an hour (by getting a subpoena from Tweetdeck) what IP address the tweet came from.  Anybody who didn't think that he either did it this time and/or had done it previously was very naive.

    Parent
    Who locks him up for a commercial deal? (5.00 / 1) (#110)
    by Dadler on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:26:50 PM EST
    Oscar Mayer?  Hillshire Farms?  Hebrew National?  Fruit of the Loom?

    Heh (none / 0) (#116)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:41:15 PM EST
    First chuckle of the day.

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    He doesn't have to resign (5.00 / 1) (#115)
    by Slado on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:40:40 PM EST
    but this is his last term.

    Dems will politely ask him to move on and he would be smart to take the advice.

    He sexted and had phone sex from his congressional office.  If he did such things at a place of business he'd be fired.  One of the pictures is clearly taken from his congressional office as you can see the pictures and what not behind him.  Maybe that's his apartment but more then likely he used his private offices, gov't phone and computer to engage in inappropriate behavior.   Again if he was busted by the office IT department for what he did he'd be fired.

    More importantly when confronted with overwhelming evidence he went on TV and lied about it.  Lied to the point where he defied common sense and it was hard for reporters not to just say "Stop lying, this is unbelievable".

    People on this site are only defending him because he has a (D) by his name.   He should resign for no other reason then so we can all move on with our lives.

    I don't think that is correct (none / 0) (#146)
    by waldenpond on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:20:04 PM EST
    I am aware of individuals having sex in an office..reprimanded not fired.  Several individuals downloading pron... not fired.

    In some instances people are sent for counseling.

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    The absurdity of this story calls for this: (5.00 / 1) (#131)
    by steviez314 on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:02:37 PM EST
    "It's EXCELLENT news for John McCain."

    The bright side (5.00 / 1) (#165)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:50:41 PM EST
    Who is covering Rick Santorum's campaign announcement?

    He announced? (none / 0) (#174)
    by nycstray on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:04:45 PM EST
    :D

    The Repubs are killing me with their announcements, I thought Mittens had already announced, so was surprised when he did. Paltry also . . . .

    Parent

    Or as I like to think of it:: (5.00 / 3) (#183)
    by Anne on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:16:36 PM EST
    another clown emerged from the clown car today...I'm on the edge of my seat wondering how many more of them are in that little car.

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    Well, we may actually get to see the history books (5.00 / 2) (#194)
    by nycstray on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:55:28 PM EST
    rewritten in 2012, depending on how many clowns crawl outta the car . . . .

    The constant dumbing down of America is so effin' depressing. . . .

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    Only one thing left to say (5.00 / 1) (#179)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:12:43 PM EST
    What a god damned dummy.

    If I were his wife I would add to this (none / 0) (#180)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:14:28 PM EST
    "Have you lost your damned mind?"  And probably, "Yer a jerk!"  And I think I would finish with, "Get your stuff and get out!"

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    Sort of glad he didn't resign, (4.00 / 1) (#33)
    by brodie on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:05:23 PM EST
    but, wow, this is far more extensive as to the admitted inappropriate behavior than I'd originally suspected.

    NYC mayor looks doubtful to me, but too early to tell there.

    Holding on to whatever leadership posts he has in the House, may  also be in jeopardy.  

    Lieberman gave a speech at (5.00 / 3) (#37)
    by oculus on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:08:05 PM EST
    GOP national convention!

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    Huh? Holy Joe speaking (none / 0) (#57)
    by brodie on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:21:19 PM EST
    at the GOP confab was Joe being Joe, nothing startling about that.

    This one came out of left field though -- not many suspected AW of being this stupid or reckless.

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    Oh come now folks (2.00 / 2) (#192)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:48:07 PM EST
    I have been around long enough to remember the fake outrage over the Repub FL Congressman and his emails and the Repub ID Senator who wanted to do something in a Minneapolis Airport bathroom... and yes, some of the fake outrage came from here.

    So please, let the Repubs enjoy watching Weiner twist in the wind. There'll be one from their side available for roasting in due time.

    It's the nature of the beast.

    And let's not pretend that we think these type of activities, Demo or Repub, do not reflect on the judgement of these folks. It does.

    The Repubs are gone. Weiner next???

    Haha.... (5.00 / 2) (#198)
    by lilburro on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 11:08:02 PM EST
    are you referring to Foley's "sexy" convos with 15 year old boys?  

    Cos yeah...that was different.

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    Totally different power dynamic (5.00 / 1) (#200)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 11:21:56 PM EST
    But that's not sexy (none / 0) (#1)
    by jbindc on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:02:20 PM EST
    If you'll pardon the pun.

    It's interesting to talk about salacious details -not so much to discuss economic policy and theory.

    OR (none / 0) (#177)
    by cal1942 on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:11:27 PM EST
    idiots like Santorum announcing that they'll run for President.

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    Is Weiner going to resign? (none / 0) (#2)
    by lilburro on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:02:34 PM EST
    I hope he doesn't and I don't think he has to.


    Americablog has covered another (none / 0) (#5)
    by observed on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:25:06 PM EST
    angle of this story, having to do with Clarence Thomas:

    Things that make you go "hmmmm"

    What's more inappropriate: Thomas's financial disclosure problems, or Weiner's softcore wiener pics (if they exist)

    Weiner admits the photo is him (none / 0) (#9)
    by jbindc on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:35:30 PM EST


    That would fall under (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:36:45 PM EST
    everything.

    The point is now what? Not resigning is a good start.

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    Link (none / 0) (#13)
    by jbindc on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:38:40 PM EST
    But (none / 0) (#14)
    by jbindc on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:39:30 PM EST
    if this is true, it's not good.

    Meanwhile, Radar Online reported Monday that it has obtained a cache of 200 sexually explicit messages that Weiner sent to a middle-aged woman in Nevada.

    Though Weiner offered to send a photo of his "bulge," he never did because he "got cold feet," the woman said. She claims he did send a raft of suggestive text messages and also said she had a 30-minute phone sex session with him on a congressional phone line.

    "A few days later, I tried to call him back on that number," the woman said. "But the number wouldn't connect to his office; instead there was a recorded message that it was an outgoing U.S. Congress line only."



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    so what? (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by CST on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:44:47 PM EST
    not illegal, not even real $ex.

    IMHO... meh

    Now, I'm not saying it's something I'd campaign on.  But he's the congressman from NY not Utah.  I really don't see this as that big of a deal.

    Shoot, my current senator posed topless for a magazine.

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    He was pretty hot. (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by jbindc on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:46:01 PM EST
    I still don't care about weiner-weiner (5.00 / 2) (#36)
    by loveed on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:08:02 PM EST
     But i'm impressed by the photos. Who knew? LOL

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    Think Spitzer, who I don't think should (none / 0) (#32)
    by oculus on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:05:07 PM EST
    have resigned but did.

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    Spitzer had two problems: (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:09:05 PM EST
    (1) Federal crime, and (2) statewide unpopularity (his polling was in the toilet before the scandal erupted).

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    Pelosi said his activities would be investigated (none / 0) (#96)
    by jawbone on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 05:54:08 PM EST
    to see whether his misused government phones or emails.  The NV woman's allegation he called her for a 30 minute sex call on a gov't line is not good news....

    He could repay the pennies per minute it cost, of course -- unless the gov't overpays big time for its long distance calls.

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    TOTALLY none of my business (5.00 / 2) (#29)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:55:49 PM EST
    Shame on us for paying any attention.

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    I agree. I'm sure Andrew Sullivan (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by observed on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:05:55 PM EST
    would agree as well.
    For a nation with such a high rate of p0rn consumption, we sure are a bunch of prudes.

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    At this point? (none / 0) (#16)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:43:34 PM EST
    That's not even a story.

    He just said he did all of it.

    What's left to uncover?

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    What's left to uncover? (none / 0) (#40)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:08:57 PM EST
    Pun intended??

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    No (none / 0) (#46)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:15:36 PM EST
    But heh.

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    What a circus. (none / 0) (#10)
    by Tony on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:36:43 PM EST
    Why is he taking questions?

    Get it all out of the way (5.00 / 4) (#12)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:37:18 PM EST
    He should have done this in the beginning.


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    Agreed. (none / 0) (#42)
    by KeysDan on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:09:17 PM EST
    Understand the embarrassment but he should have let it all hang out at the first opportunity. By this time, the media fun would have been edged out in our collective memory banks by Sarah Palin's ride with Paul Revere.   That first bounce was a  public relations disaster, not to mention the joy he gave to late night comics,  what with not being able to say that the man in the gray unders was not him --with "certitude".  

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    I think he should have stepped (5.00 / 2) (#91)
    by Anne on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 05:45:54 PM EST
    away from the podium, turned his back to the collective media and just dropped trou - accompanied by this short comment: "I'm showing you my backside to express my contempt for the constant intrusions into people's personal lives that you people feed off of.  Take a good look, and if you think it looks familiar, get out a mirror - what you see might jog your memory."

    They're not going to leave him alone until they can put another notch in their belts: got another one - yes!

    Ugh.

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    Well, Anthony Weiner (5.00 / 2) (#112)
    by KeysDan on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:35:21 PM EST
    went from ..I never had text with that woman... to ..I did it, and with more than one woman--and  with "certitude".   In between he deceived and lied to all about it.   Moreover, Breitbart was oozing about having a new photo that "left little to the imagination", which made it appear that he was forced into his confession.  So, I would advise against his dropping trou at this point and concentrate on keeping them up with both belt and suspenders. Head back to work, keep his head down, and wait for the next Sarah Palin history lesson to crowd him out of the news.

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    How the heck did Breitbart get (none / 0) (#34)
    by oculus on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:05:46 PM EST
    the mic if it was Rep. Weiner's press conference.  

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    He barged in before (none / 0) (#43)
    by gyrfalcon on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:13:04 PM EST
    Weiner got out there.

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    So is there an ethical issue (none / 0) (#20)
    by me only on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:47:55 PM EST
    initialing claiming that his account was hacked?

    Thought is (none / 0) (#25)
    by jbindc on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:53:28 PM EST
    he didn't call the police because if it came out that he wasn't hacked (which he just admitted) he could have been charged with filing a false police report.

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    Why is he allowing the press conference to go on (none / 0) (#24)
    by byteb on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:52:15 PM EST
    for such a long time?

    He apologized. He admitted what he did. He admitted other incidents. He apologized again and again. It's awful to watch.

    To get it out of the way (5.00 / 2) (#28)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:54:56 PM EST
    He needed to take the beating.

    Next November is a long way away.

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    If he has a media rep., he needs a new (5.00 / 2) (#39)
    by oculus on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:08:42 PM EST
    one.  

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    I'm still not interested (none / 0) (#26)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:54:39 PM EST
    But this didn't play out well for him.

    I think he would probably survive politically, but his district may be removed.

    Redistricted out? (none / 0) (#30)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 03:57:51 PM EST
    Is his district on the chopping block?

    May be the best thing for him.

    Then he can make a comeback.

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    NY loses two seats, and Queens is (none / 0) (#31)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:02:05 PM EST
    getting less white by the minute. Assuming the pols work out a deal in Albany, one upstate Republican and one (white) downstate Dem are likely to go.

    Any redistricting deal will allow the Senate Republicans to draw their own map. I am strongly opposed to this, so the whole package may end up being court drawn. In which case, all bets are off.

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    Remember the congressman in the Jefferson (none / 0) (#45)
    by oculus on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:15:08 PM EST
    Memorial tidepool at night with the female who wasn't his wife?  Can't remember his name.  Did he resign?  

    I think you mean schtupped, not (5.00 / 1) (#114)
    by caseyOR on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:39:00 PM EST
    schlepped. There is no scandal in a congressman carrying (shlepping) his wife on the Capitol steps. Schtupping (f*cking), on the other hand, is a risky maneuver to attempt on the Capitol steps.

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    Wilbur Mills? (none / 0) (#50)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:17:01 PM EST
    did not resign over that incident (none / 0) (#53)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:19:17 PM EST
    and was re-elected. However later he went on stage at the stripper's act....and later resigned to get sober.

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    actually did not resign (none / 0) (#55)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:20:32 PM EST
    just did not run for re-election after the 2nd incident.

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    Oh, terrific memory. (none / 0) (#56)
    by oculus on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:20:38 PM EST
    And no, he didn't resign after the tidepool incident (although it was Ms. Foxe,pseudonymn) who jumped in the tidepool, not Mills.) link

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    Well I can't remember what I did yesterday (5.00 / 2) (#63)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:23:23 PM EST
    But a name from 1974 is permanently etched in my brain cells!

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    Will Rep. Weiner's political career (none / 0) (#49)
    by oculus on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:16:11 PM EST
    survive in light of the reported fact he "teared up?  If so, why is it o.k. for a man but not a woman.  Ticks me off.  

    Hillary Clinton (none / 0) (#52)
    by CST on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:17:15 PM EST
    still has a political career.  FWIW.

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    thank god his wifes name is Uma (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:23:08 PM EST
    not Ima

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    Huma? (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by The Addams Family on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:33:50 PM EST
    You are back, and in rare form! (none / 0) (#64)
    by oculus on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:23:54 PM EST
    probably not (none / 0) (#60)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:22:43 PM EST
    with a name like Weiner (none / 0) (#58)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:22:15 PM EST
    you would think he would know better

    this is sad.  how can people be so stupid.

    Poor guy. Imagine his unhappy (none / 0) (#61)
    by oculus on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:22:48 PM EST
    childhood.  

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    that press conference was amazing (5.00 / 1) (#67)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:27:43 PM EST
    let me see how many buckets of chum I can dump into the media shark tank in 40 minutes.  

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    I knew I shouldn't have cut the cable. (none / 0) (#69)
    by oculus on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:28:33 PM EST
    Ha! Missed you Howdy (none / 0) (#72)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:33:25 PM EST
    I'll have to find a video of the presser later. Sounds entertaining.

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    Was his Twitter account hacked? (none / 0) (#68)
    by observed on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:28:19 PM EST
    Is that still a viable question?
    If he sent something "privately" which Breitbart got via hacking, then Breitbart is a criminal.


    He didn't send it privately. (5.00 / 1) (#77)
    by Tony on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:39:43 PM EST
    He meant to send it as a direct message, but accidentally sent it as a tweet.  I've seen it happen a thousand times.

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    ah, thanks (none / 0) (#80)
    by observed on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:41:01 PM EST
    Do you have a link for that info? (none / 0) (#98)
    by jawbone on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 05:59:06 PM EST
    Thnx -- I'd heard it was private, then read just one commenter saying he'd sent it to all his followers. I think NPR also reported that.

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    See, I have been saying for a long time (none / 0) (#191)
    by ruffian on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:46:43 PM EST
    that tweeting is way too complicated with all the little tags. One reason  don't use it.

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    As opposed to Bradley Manning, (none / 0) (#70)
    by oculus on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:29:07 PM EST
    for example?

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    Fair enough. (none / 0) (#79)
    by observed on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:40:41 PM EST
    Still, if the tweets by this twit were supposed to be private, then the bigger story is why and how they were exposed, because there is NO public interest served here.

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    or at the very least (none / 0) (#71)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:29:47 PM EST
    not sends pics OF your wiener to strange women whos age you do not even know.  

    imagine if one of them is under age.  
    which actually seems pretty likely to me.  not that many mature women do this.  do they?

    Perhaps William Shattner is avail. (none / 0) (#201)
    by oculus on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 11:26:21 PM EST
    BTD's purported disinterest in what (none / 0) (#74)
    by oculus on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:37:49 PM EST
    Rep. Weiner admitted transmitting reminds me of:

    "The money was there and they didn't spend it," said Mr. Davis, an associate real estate professor at the University of Wisconsin. "I don't mean to sound outraged, but I am pretty outraged."
      [Italics added.]

    I am disinterested (5.00 / 1) (#83)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 04:51:47 PM EST
    It's not purported.

    Why this stupid story reminds you of that vital story is not apparent to me.

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    My friends could tell you about my (none / 0) (#85)
    by oculus on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 05:01:42 PM EST
    strange segues.

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    I don't know what to think. (none / 0) (#87)
    by lawyerjim on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 05:35:56 PM EST

    Yes it's a private matter but he sort of made allegations that someone committed a Federal crime by hacking into his online account.  I don't know that he accused a particular person or organization but he insinuated a crime had been committed.

    And, yes, what Jihn Ensign, David Vitter, Mark Foley, Scooter Libby, Karl Rove, Ralph Reed and countless others did was far worse, this is the exact type of "scandal" people love even though no harm came to anyone.

    But what he did was so incredibly stupid I can't believe it.  He actually gave some credibility to Andrew Breitbart, just as Edwards did for the Enquirer.  That is the worst thing to come out of this.  Now when someone calls Breitbart the liar that he is, he can always say "was I lying about Anthoney Weiner"?  The media could have been talking non-stop this week about how little Sarah Palin knows about American history instead of flashing that same photo over and over.

    I love congressman Weiner.  I love his rants on the House floor.  But he will now be a distraction.  I think Jon Stewart said the other night that "If you're taking wiener photos and sending them out to young girls, you gots to go."  As much as I would miss him, I think Jon Stewart is right.  

    Agree with everything except (none / 0) (#97)
    by brodie on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 05:56:01 PM EST
    your Jon Stewart remarks don't ring true.  Aren't they friends, from their college years together?  I doubt if he's already thrown his friend overboard, even prior to today's admissions.

    Best thing for AW is to lie low now, hope those X-rated photo(s) don't surface, and stop appearing in media, giving people time to forget and perhaps forgive.  

    Basically try for a Vitter and hope for the best with the constituents, if any are left after re-districting.  Though I suspect that some in the MSM, along with Fox, won't be as willing to let this one go the way they did so nicely and quickly with Vitter.

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    I found Jon Stewart's quote (none / 0) (#184)
    by lawyerjim on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:18:34 PM EST

    "If you're sending pictures of your penis as bait for young women to follow you on Twitter, you've got to go," Stewart said.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/03/jon-stewart-to-anthony-weiner-tell-the-truth_n_870763.html

    I think as progressives, we should hold ourselves to higher standards than Ensign, Vitter, Lee, etc...

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    no special election for house seat (none / 0) (#88)
    by diogenes on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 05:37:42 PM EST
    I'm sure that everyone here backed up the republican Chris Lee who resigned under similar circumstances.  And no special election if BTD rules had held.


    Didn't care about Lee either (5.00 / 1) (#106)
    by TomStewart on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:16:29 PM EST
    Even though what he did was pretty stupid too.

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    I don't recall anyone here ... (5.00 / 1) (#133)
    by Yman on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:03:13 PM EST
    ... demanding Lee's resignation - just like with Weiner.  Yeah, it was a stupid thing to do, but if you're looking for some type of imaginary hypocrisy, look elsewhere.

    Maybe troll the conservative sites filled with the "family values" voters who sat on their hands through Gingrich, Vitter, Ensign, Sanford, Craig, etc.

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    Yes, or the Jeff Gannon (5.00 / 2) (#142)
    by KeysDan on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:13:53 PM EST
    male escort who mysteriously had press access to the White House.

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    Scarlett O'Hara (none / 0) (#89)
    by diogenes on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 05:38:47 PM EST
    Weiner reminds me of how Rhett Butler once described Scarlett as being like a "thief who is sorry only when she's caught".

    Yeah, that id wants what it wants.... (none / 0) (#94)
    by jawbone on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 05:50:17 PM EST
    But, sheesh!

    Pelosi (none / 0) (#101)
    by AngryBlackGuy on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:06:09 PM EST
    It stinks but I think this is the right call:

    "Following Rep. Anthony Weiner's conciliatory (Sorry I lied...) yet defiant (...but I won't resign) press conference, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) has called for an Ethics Committee investigation to determine "if official resources were used or any other violation of House rules occurred."

    If she didn't (5.00 / 1) (#108)
    by TomStewart on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:18:40 PM EST
    the republican's would. Better to get out in front.

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    Shame on her (none / 0) (#109)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:22:38 PM EST
    for facilitating the freakshow.

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    Meh (none / 0) (#118)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:42:39 PM EST
    She might already know the answer is No.

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    Don't feed the freakshow (5.00 / 1) (#123)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:48:41 PM EST
    No need to feed (none / 0) (#138)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:08:15 PM EST
    You think they Ethics Committee wants to go down that black hole?

    A week and this will be out of the headlines.

    Weiner needs to keep his head down that's all.

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    In a similar matter (5.00 / 1) (#140)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:10:04 PM EST
    the Republicans impeached a President.

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    Expulsion? (none / 0) (#149)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:23:08 PM EST
    Not in a million years.

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    Similar... in what way? (none / 0) (#163)
    by Rojas on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:45:21 PM EST
    Was he giving testimony in a civil rights trail?

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    Yeah, because THAT'S ... (none / 0) (#168)
    by Yman on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:56:22 PM EST
    ... what the impeachment was really about.

    Pffftttt ....

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    What is he supposed to have done (none / 0) (#122)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:47:05 PM EST
    that was "unethical?" Make a private phone call from a House phone?

    Expel him!

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    Find me a member of Congress (none / 0) (#141)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:11:47 PM EST
    who has never used a House phone to make a private phone call, and I'll sell you the Brooklyn Bridge for a dollar.

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    That would be an ethics violation (none / 0) (#189)
    by me only on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:39:33 PM EST
    at a minimum.

    Dude, you have to own it in order to sell.  Somehow I don't think you own the Brooklyn Bridge.

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    That's insane (none / 0) (#148)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:22:11 PM EST
    You can't make a personal phone call?

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    Hmm (5.00 / 1) (#162)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:43:33 PM EST
    I know that soliciting for campaign contributions was an issue, but I can not believe the rule you cite can ever be used. Everyone will have to be censured.

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    Just can't work up enough 'care' (none / 0) (#103)
    by TomStewart on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:07:59 PM EST
    to worry about this. From the beginning I figured it was him, and wished he'd just get it over with. So much time and energy sucked out of the universe of this nonsense.

    Give it up guys! (none / 0) (#104)
    by Gerald USN Ret on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:12:12 PM EST
    Weiner is gone from politics!
    No Congress.  No Mayor of NY.  (Even Pelosi wants to investigate him.  You know Weiner is the walking dead Democrat if Pelosi is after him.)

    The only thing he would have a chance of winning would be a slot on Reality Politicians of NY.  Or maybe a nice spread in Play Girl.

    Spitzer did wrong, but still he wasn't overly stupid.  Weiner is giving Palin a run for the stupid crown.  

    Weiner is now a Laugh Line.  

    Many on this site have (none / 0) (#119)
    by Slado on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:43:26 PM EST
    partisan blinders on.

    Anyone so stupid and uncaring about their position deserves to be removed from office.

    If he was working any other job it would have happened by now.

    Can you imagine the campaign commercials?  If he chooses to stay it is only out of selfishness.   He will only muck up the election cycle in 2012 and dems would be smart to show him the door or make sure he does not run again.

    By all means. Stay.

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    If you can point to me (none / 0) (#136)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:06:55 PM EST
    demanding information or resignation from any GOP pol for such transgressions, then you might have a point.

    Since I never have (indeed, see my posts on Sarah Palin's family, particularly about the crazy Trig is not her kid nonsense), you oew me an apology or a resignation as a commenter.

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    On what authority ... (none / 0) (#137)
    by Yman on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:08:04 PM EST
    ... should he be removed?

    How will he "muck up the election cycle"?

    You mean like Vitter ... who was re-elected?

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    He had it all and it wasn't enough (none / 0) (#182)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:15:15 PM EST
    Breibart (none / 0) (#121)
    by thereyougo on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 06:45:34 PM EST
    Leave to this dweeb to act all holier than thou.
    I haven't forgotten his take on the reverse racism thing HE lied about. So he has zero cred as far as I'm concerned.
    I wonder how that lawsuit filed against him is going form the wronged Shirley Sherrod.
    This Weiner incident merits  condemnation, but Breibart is just an attention monkey, it doesn't help his side at all.
    For every one of ours there are 10 of theirs so, while it doesn't make me feel that bad, comparitively, it isn't.
    People think their stuff won't be outted on the World Wide WEb.  Is that naive or what?

    Agree his credibility is gone. (none / 0) (#144)
    by Natal on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:16:43 PM EST
    I think he should spend sometime trying to remedy his mental demons.  If these are deeply embedded in his consciousness they will not go away or be easily contained despite what has happened. imo

    Get out the onions! (none / 0) (#145)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:17:58 PM EST
    YUM! (none / 0) (#170)
    by nycstray on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:59:35 PM EST
    Onion rings!   :D

    doesn't he usually win his district by a large margin (similar to my old rep NV)?

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    Who knows what his district will look like (none / 0) (#171)
    by andgarden on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:00:53 PM EST
    in November of 2012.

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    Ah, thanks. (none / 0) (#181)
    by nycstray on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:14:54 PM EST
    More than anything, I was surprised that he used (none / 0) (#154)
    by byteb on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 07:30:18 PM EST
    Facebook and Twitter for his 'conversations'. There's no such thing as privacy on these sites and yet he obviously felt comfortable enough to exchange very intimate information with complete strangers. It's as if he was asking to be discovered.

    Wimpy stupid dems (none / 0) (#175)
    by loveed on Mon Jun 06, 2011 at 08:04:49 PM EST
    Here we go again Dems against Dems, It hasn't even been 24hr. yet!!!
     There is nothing new hear. Twitter,chats,facebook,my space page etc.. This is the way we communicate now. The young people I work with text all day(this gets on my nerves).
    It's unbelievable how fast my granddaughter types. They text and reach people all over the world. People meet like this all the time.And yes they send pictures(these picture are nothing compared to what you can find). All consensual conversations
     What I'm trying to say is this is like a phone call with pictures.