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Rudy Flip-Flops on Terry Schiavo

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Sat May 05, 2007 at 02:33:44 PM EST
Tags: Rudy Giuliani (all tags)
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Another flip-flop for Rudy. First, when addressing an audience in Florida, he was for the congressional attempt to intervene and save Terri Schiavo's life.

In the debate this week, he switched positions, and said it's an appropriate matter for the courts.

The flip:

In April, Giuliani had explained his position this way: Noting that the controversy had been through the court system for years, he said the 2005 congressional intervention, "was appropriate to make every effort to give her a chance to stay alive. ... My general view is, you should do everything you can to keep somebody alive unless they have expressed a strong interest in not having very, very special things done, extraordinary things done."

The flop:

"The family was in dispute. That's what we have courts for. And the better place to decide that in a much more, I think in a much fairer and even in a deeper way, is in front of a court, " he said at the first GOP presidential debate at the Ronald Reagan library in California.

His campaign manager's attempt to reconcile the two:

"Last night Mayor Giuliani said that ideally these types of difficult issues are best left up to families and when there are disputes, it is a matter for the courts to decide. As he said in Florida in April, there are sometimes extraordinary circumstances where the intentions of the person in question are not clear. The Schiavo case was one of those very special circumstances."

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    Rudy Flip-Flops on Terry Schiavo | 9 comments (9 topical)

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    oddly enough (none / 0) (#1)
    by cpinva on Sat May 05, 2007 at 04:26:45 PM EST
    none of the courts that the case had been before seemed to agree with either mayor giuliani, or his campaign manager.

    i think a pair of appropriately colored flip-flops should be sent to hizzonor.

    et al (none / 0) (#2)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat May 05, 2007 at 05:14:57 PM EST
    I think his point was that the appeals court should have returned it to the lower court to consider new evidence.

    That's what Congress was trying to get done.

    Here is what the issue was for Republicans: (none / 0) (#3)
    by lilybart on Sat May 05, 2007 at 06:58:54 PM EST
    At the same time, the so-called Schiavo memo surfaced, causing a political firestorm. The memo was written by Brian Darling, the legal counsel to Florida Republican senator Mel Martinez. It suggested the Schiavo case offered "a great political issue" that would appeal to the party's base (core supporters) and could be used against Senator Bill Nelson, a Democrat from Florida, because he had refused to co-sponsor the bill.[60] Nelson won re-election in 2006.

    from Wikipedia, linked and supported at wikipedia

    Andit Worked real well as an issue (none / 0) (#4)
    by Molly Bloom on Sat May 05, 2007 at 09:51:41 PM EST
    for Democrats!



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    Because they were right. (none / 0) (#5)
    by lilybart on Sun May 06, 2007 at 08:12:07 AM EST
    People do not want the Federal government involved in their private lives.

    The Dems were on the correct side of this issue.

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    lilybart (none / 0) (#6)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun May 06, 2007 at 10:10:33 AM EST
    People do not want the Federal government involved in their private lives.

    Then how do you explain:

    Medicare

    War on Poverty

    Civil Rights Laws

    Environmental Protection

    Drug Laws

    Work Place Safety

    I could go on, but I think you see my point.

    Rudy was right. The family was in deep disagreement, and when that happens, we have courts and lawyers. I find it political to see lawyers disagree with that point.

    I remember during that dust up, it was explained very carefully to me that the appeals court couldn't send it back to the trial court unless there had some error of law, no matter what new evidence was presented.  Yet just recently, when an appeals court threw out a case, it was explaind to me that was okay because the evidence was so weak..

    To help you out, the Schiavo situation was basically a Repub and the latter was a Demo.
    A surprise at the conflict in the explanations? No.

    So no, no flip, or flop, just as reasoned comment on the situation.

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    Come ON people (none / 0) (#7)
    by Che's Lounge on Sun May 06, 2007 at 12:49:48 PM EST
    Who gives a s*t what they say now? They will say WHATEVER WILL PLEASE THE MOMENT to get elected. They will dance and sing for another 18 months and the one elected will do WHATEVER THE F*K they are told to do by their corporate donors.

    Deal with it.

    Thae caps were intentional (none / 0) (#8)
    by Che's Lounge on Sun May 06, 2007 at 12:52:17 PM EST
    The bold was not. Forgot to preview.

    WTF do you expect on Sunday morning? I'm not the effing Library of Congress here.

    Jim, (none / 0) (#9)
    by jondee on Wed May 09, 2007 at 05:33:29 PM EST
    Many of here remember your damn-the-science-Save-Terri campaign here while you were in full swing.

    To help you out, the final autopsy report confirmed once again what a confirmed, "social liberal" bandwidth waster is capable of. This is a subject that, if you had an ounce of dignity and, or, integrity, you'd just keep silent about.

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