Funny, I do not recall writing that BOOMAN remembered the Clinton Presidency fondly

1. For the last damned time, Bill ≠ Hillary.  Hillary ≠ Bill.  Senator Clinton has accomplished things all by herself, kthx.
   
2. She has merit, intelligence, and the ability to be a good president all by herself.  She does not need her husband.  No woman needs her husband to help her accomplish anything, ever, end of sentence, Amen.  To say otherwise is just insulting.

I don't read BooMan to be saying that he disagrees with polls that Bill Clinton is popular.  He's warning against the tendency to romanticize the past and romanticize the Clinton presidency.  I actually welcome his invitation to reassess the Clinton years.  It's very instructive for those who wish to follow his legacy by continuing to tack to the right to peel off right-wing independents (like Hillary).  It's important to see if the "liberal" victories over the last 20 years were really liberal victories.

And if you guys are going to have a blog war, at least you can be witty and have fun with it.   This response to BooMan's post was a little hurried and too angry.  You didn't really respond to his points in a substantive way.

These two comments are accurate in describing your behavior Armando.  Whenever you are unable or unwilling to engage in an intellectually honest discussion, you have a tendency to fall back on these rhetorical lawyer tricks.  And I don't think it's a problem with reading comprehension, as I speculated sometime ago.

Few judges would let you get away with these tactics, and neither will the jury here at talkleft.

And what is this tired stuff about, if you could only speak/write your true mind, but the rules on this blog prevent that.  So you're saying that you can't engage in civil argument over the issues, without resorting to character assassination and personal attacks.  I'm not impressed by this, yet another excuse, for your inability to defend your positions.

You seem to have some kind of problem with people calling you, on what I assure you is painfully obvious to many of the readers who visit this site.  Perhaps you should listen to some of these criticisms, which are coming at you from all directions now.  :-)

I submit that you and Jeralyn have been compromised, compromised by the fact that you've both fallen for the tactics of the conservatives, which have convinced you, perhaps on an unconscious level, that a genuine progressive approach is untenable, and the only hope we have of winning in America is to pretend to be something we're not, in the hopes of fooling enough Americans into supporting a candidate like Hillary Clinton.  

To put it bluntly, you've been suckered, and you put yourselves in a position of having to defend yourself in a sinking bog, were your ideals and principles are hopelessly mired in hypocrisy.  A position that Hillary Clinton has willingly placed herself in, having done an excellent job of painting herself into a corner from which there is no escape.  

I don't put much faith in polls, but you can't ignore that her negatives are ridiculously high, higher than any other candidate in the race, Democrat or Republican.  You don't actually believe she's going to be able start reversing that trend during the general election, do you?  If so I think you're fooling yourselves.

Clinton represents the past, just as surely the Bush administration was a pathetic, though on a practical level quite successful, attempt to drag this country backwards.  I have no doubt that her intentions are good, but all the good intentions in the world cannot free her from the enormous baggage that she drags with her everywhere she goes.  If she were to become president, it would be a presidency that will be even more divisive than her husbands, and the Republicans will do everything in their power to hobble and disable another Clinton administration, and they will be successful because a good half of the US population will support them them in their efforts.

We the American people are tired of this endlessly deadlocked partisan crap, and our country has paid dearly for it, and the progressives and the cause of liberalism has suffered more than most.  Time to move forward, not back.  I urge you and Jeralyn to join us in the future, and let the past remain in the past, lest the division which is crippling our country continue to degrade this nation.