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How Uppity Of Obama (3.00 / 8) (#113)
by squeaky on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 12:24:49 PM EST
He just doesn't know his place. Looks like you may have a few things to learn about "Change".

hahahahaha

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MLK have a rock band in D.C. (5.00 / 3) (#132)
by Cream City on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 12:36:18 PM EST
before the "I Have a Dream" speech?  Seriously, I don't remember.  But I doubt it.

There are voters who want to know that the White House in the hands of Dems would conduct itself with dignity.  So it is a fine line to negotiate.  That's all.

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Peter, Paul & Mary (5.00 / 2) (#155)
by brodie on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 12:49:57 PM EST
were there that day, and sang "If I Had A Hammer."  Dunno about rock, but in 63 rock 'n' roll was very shallow and apolitical.  

So, there's a fine tradition of mixing song with politics.

Plenty of musicians at the massive antiwar rallies of the 60s, too.

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Yes, musicians, you bet (5.00 / 1) (#178)
by Cream City on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 01:03:01 PM EST
as I was at a lot of those rallies.  But it was not  a rock 'n' roll light show.  And the songs always had social messages.  I think that would be great.

I think Jeralyn's idea (as it is still from her and not the DNCC, I think) of a rock band is the problematic part -- at a point when Obama will need to project maturity, dignity, and such characteristics of a president to the voters he still will need.  


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OK (none / 0) (#193)
by squeaky on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 01:09:59 PM EST
But this is a celebration and a biiiiig party. Not comparable to a civil rights rally in 1963, imo., although I do see your point, even if it is a stretch.

I am sure that there will be seriousness involved and I am all for content regarding rallying musical messages.


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Nice Point (none / 0) (#173)
by squeaky on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 12:59:58 PM EST
I did not know that. It goes to show that a band performing at a political event does not turn it into a Rock Concert.

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Peter Paul & Mary (none / 0) (#198)
by CoralGables on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 01:17:00 PM EST
Peter Paul and Mary still do concerts today and if you ever get a chance they are worth attending just to see the variety of people in the audience. Everything from the stereotypical Viet Nam era hippy to little girls that spend their mornings listening to Peter Paul and Mommy Too.

They do their concerts in great places too. They will be at Carnegie Hall in December.

I vote for Jimmy Buffett to entertain before things get going but Invesco isn't nearly big enough for a free Jimmy Buffett show.


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Poor Analogy (none / 0) (#141)
by squeaky on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 12:40:43 PM EST
MLK's dream speech was not about celebrating a victory.

 

King's delivery of the speech on August 28, 1963, from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial during the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom was a defining moment of the American Civil Rights Movement. Delivered to over two hundred thousand civil rights supporters, the speech is often considered to be one of the greatest and most notable speeches in history and was ranked the top American speech of the 20th century by a 1999 poll of scholars of public address.



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But (1.50 / 6) (#151)
by squeaky on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 12:46:56 PM EST
I will give it to you, both Obama and MLK are/were black men, if that is the point you were trying to make by your comparison.

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You appear to be on a (5.00 / 3) (#163)
by tree on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 12:54:06 PM EST
race baiting binge this morning. Why is that?

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The nomination speech... (5.00 / 1) (#166)
by kredwyn on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 12:54:45 PM EST
is more of a rallying speech than it is a victory speech.

Or at least, given his seemingly determined efforts, to present a face of "unity" with HRC...the rallying part should be in the fore.

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You brought in race (5.00 / 2) (#171)
by Cream City on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 12:59:27 PM EST
with the "uppity," Squeaks.

But then, you so often do.

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Not Me (2.71 / 7) (#179)
by squeaky on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 01:03:49 PM EST
Obama does not know his place. WTF is that, if not race baiting? A poor choice of words?  I do not think so.

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The line was... (5.00 / 3) (#201)
by tree on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 01:19:18 PM EST
Some of us just prefer a candidate who knows his place in history and that place is in front of the Democratic Convention that nominated him giving his acceptance speech.

You stretched to make a cheap shot, IMO. Unless you think that making a speech in front of the Democratic Convention is somehow demeaning and belittling.

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And we already had the victory speech (none / 0) (#186)
by Cream City on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 01:06:20 PM EST
in Pig's Eye, Minnesota, as you may recall.  (The historic name of St. Paul.:-)

The convention speech is still an appeal to the voters.  The next victory speech comes in November.

Or not.

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