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Unbelievable (5.00 / 2) (#4)
by janarchy on Fri May 09, 2008 at 08:52:50 PM EST
I just lost all respect for Cohen too.

Well, they got the word (5.00 / 6) (#6)
by Stellaaa on Fri May 09, 2008 at 08:54:03 PM EST
it's ok to say that kind of stuff.  We are going backwards.  Precisely why Hillary stays and should stay in the fight.  

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They may have gotten the word, (5.00 / 7) (#14)
by Iphie on Fri May 09, 2008 at 09:00:56 PM EST
but all I have to say, is keep it up, Obama and surrogates -- keep it up and see how many more women you can piss off between now and when the nomination is truly over -- they may just be surprised who gets the last word.

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I never thought (5.00 / 7) (#15)
by janarchy on Fri May 09, 2008 at 09:01:22 PM EST
we'd be going back so far so quickly.

Once again, it's perfectly acceptable to be sexist, but don't you dare say anything about race or we will hang, draw and quarter you.

This reminds me of every bad breakup I've had with a guy. Somehow he was always the innocent victim and I was the psycho hose beast b*tch, whether I dumped them or they dumped me. Women are always psycho, right?

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My exact sentiment (5.00 / 4) (#20)
by Stellaaa on Fri May 09, 2008 at 09:11:25 PM EST
My comment is always: "At some point you loved that person, how can they become psycho overnight?"

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But I remember one of my first comments here (5.00 / 2) (#24)
by Florida Resident on Fri May 09, 2008 at 09:19:03 PM EST
was that sexism was more prevalent than racism and I was ostracized because I was pitting one against the other.  The problem IMO is that people don't stop to think that sexism and I include sexual orientation issues also exist in all races.  So even people who will defend the rights of AA's and Hispanics will stand by and allow the discrimination of women and Homosexuals.  Some churches even use religion to justify  it still  as they use to justify slavery.

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I am really struggling with the thought (5.00 / 3) (#32)
by abfabdem on Fri May 09, 2008 at 09:34:06 PM EST
that if I vote for him it will be the mental equivalent of battered wife syndrome.  After calling me names in the most vile way, that now they want my vote they will promise to be good and that they've always loved me, it was all just a big misunderstanding.  They didn't really mean to say those hurtful things. Please be a good girl and vote for me now.  

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I've equated (5.00 / 3) (#36)
by janarchy on Fri May 09, 2008 at 09:41:46 PM EST
the whole recent tenor of the campaign to just that. Been there, done that, am not going through it again.

Really, they wouldn't beat us if we didn't ask for it. All we have to do is behave and everything will be all right.

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And speak when I say you can speak. (5.00 / 4) (#63)
by BarnBabe on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:03:42 AM EST
Yep, you got that last line right. It is like a battered wife syndrome. And we all know the answer to how to end the abuse. You cut off their control and take your life back. This is a Democracy.

Some men are scared of a woman being President and some people are scared of a black person being President. That should not be the problem. It should be choose the right person you feel can best run this country.  And hearing this idiot refer to Hillary as Glen Close in Fatal Attraction tells me they should not be in a leadership position and need to be removed. Are you sure these are the educated ones with the open mouth, insert both feet?

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Or (5.00 / 3) (#84)
by chrisvee on Sat May 10, 2008 at 10:09:09 AM EST
'So what if I verbally abuse you a bit, you've got no place else to go'.  That's how the party is making me feel right now.  Even though I'm disrespected daily, I basically have to vote Dem or die in the GE, so I can shut up already. I'm powerless in the party's eyes.

And I don't like it.

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Don't struggle. (none / 0) (#41)
by kmblue on Fri May 09, 2008 at 09:44:14 PM EST
I posted the same thought lower down.
Obama supporters are already coming to
Talk Left with what they think are voices of sweet reason; ready to persuade us to see the light.

But they keep giving themselves away by bring up Roe v. Wade (can't resist those threats to bring us back in line).

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Or by suggesting another woman be VP (5.00 / 6) (#43)
by Cream City on Fri May 09, 2008 at 09:51:53 PM EST
I hate that one.

My spouse said that tonight.  Fortunately, we have an extra room with a comfy futon. . . .

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Yep (5.00 / 4) (#67)
by otherlisa on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:48:38 AM EST
"Lie Back, and think of the Supreme Court."

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Yeah, they default to (none / 0) (#59)
by Iris on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:20:59 PM EST
the 'feminist' issues.  How patronizing.

What I think they fail to realize is that 1.) Most of America is not reading blogs and 2.) 'Old-style politics' is about issues and constituencies.  Even if they managed to convince every commenter at TalkLeft, that would still do very little to solve Obama's problems with voters.  

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I agree with you, but (none / 0) (#49)
by kayla on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:17:37 PM EST
"The problem IMO is that people don't stop to think that sexism and I include sexual orientation issues also exist in all races."

Yes, sexism goes across all racial lines, but racism goes across all gender lines.

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I Dunno (none / 0) (#61)
by squeaky on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:45:35 PM EST
It seems that racism and sexism both cross all racial and gender lines. When it gets confusing the indicator is power, and who has more irrespective of race or gender.

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Before they were (5.00 / 5) (#30)
by Iphie on Fri May 09, 2008 at 09:27:28 PM EST
psycho, they were hysterical -- you see, while the attitude hasn't advanced, the language has.

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The traditional triad of adjectives (5.00 / 6) (#45)
by Cream City on Fri May 09, 2008 at 09:53:17 PM EST
for women: Hysterical, impulsive, and over-reacting.

If I never hear any of those appellations for a woman gain, I'll be happy.  Hysterically happy.:-)

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Correction: (none / 0) (#53)
by seeker on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:44:40 PM EST
"don't say anything about race that we might possibly be able to remove from context or twist to make it appear that you are racist. . ."

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