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It will be interesting to see (5.00 / 2) (#7)
by shoephone on Fri May 09, 2008 at 01:54:10 PM EST
the Blog Boyz denounce him, since Sirota's claim to fame was as Schweitzer's campaign director.

I have (5.00 / 2) (#20)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri May 09, 2008 at 02:05:57 PM EST
all over.

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The problem with (5.00 / 5) (#77)
by TomP on Fri May 09, 2008 at 02:39:12 PM EST
many in the "netroots" is that no dissent to Obama's positions seems to be allowed.  Obama's okay on most isuses, a moderate, but certainly on Dkos, amny, including a few front pagers (e.g., DHinMI) will attack any questioning on issues as "concern trolls." I note a Dvid Mizner diary in which this occurred, even though David voted for Obama.

I have no problem voting for Obama over McCain.  Obama clearly is a lot better.  But I do have aproblem with being required to check barckobama.com before I can think or opinine on an issue.  

Certainly neutrals are attacked.  I saw comments on Daily Kos today attacking John Edwards for not fully endorsing Obama today, even though he clearly tilted toward him and implied he voted for Obama.

It is not enough for some that a person support or vote for Barack Obama.  These few but loud folks demand faith in and obedience to Obama.

That's not politics.  It's something else.

And if those people's attitudes get out to the general public, many will be turned off.

It's not a video game for children.  Defeating McCain matters.

The viciousness I have seen by front pagers,  blog owners, and some Obama supporters toward Clinton and her supporters, along with the occasional sexism, was wrong.  

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Re: The problem with (5.00 / 1) (#111)
by Sleeper on Fri May 09, 2008 at 03:15:51 PM EST
There was a similar post on Kos asking/petitioning/demanding Robert Byrd endorse Obama before WV.  It was a little too strident and basically said that he owed it because he was in the Klan fifty years ago, but I understood the basic argument: now that the tide seems to have turned, it's for the best to end the contest and maximize the time of reconciliation and strategizing.  I can see their argument but since we've come so far, why not just finish the primary schedule, let everyone participate, and then come together?  Honestly, if things were reversed and Clinton had eked out a narrow but insurmountable lead over Obama, you would hear the same calls for Obama to drop out and for supers to pledge to Clinton now, today, immediately.

I don't think it's an Obama thing.  I think it's an exhaustion thing.  And I understand the reasoning but it's probably for the best to let the rest of the states have their say, and then it's on to Denver to finish this.

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The idea of exhaustion (none / 0) (#164)
by mg7505 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 05:01:21 PM EST
doesn't mean much to me. I am exhausted of the coverage of this campaign, but honestly I haven't yet seen enough of these candidates or the issues. It's easy to throw one's hands up and say you're exhausted, but truth be told we haven't yet fleshed out these candidates' true differences in style and policy yet. The fact that rallies are still so well attended and the campaign coverage is so heavy seems to support this point. Plus we let them get away with starting the campaign so early, and now we've got to deal with the consequences. But when you think about it, we've only had a few months of primaries -- about 40 primaries in that period of time!

If Hillary's still fighting through round 50, how can we claim to be exhausted?

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Re: The idea of exhaustion (none / 0) (#173)
by Sleeper on Fri May 09, 2008 at 06:34:31 PM EST
Only 4 months of primaries, but over a year of campaigning.  It gets to you.

Honestly, if I had to guess, Clinton is continuing to get her wins in WV and KY so she can withdraw on a high note.  Maybe they'll give her a huge bounce so she can go on, but almost certainly not.  But she has to see her odds are not good.

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I think (none / 0) (#87)
by CanadianDem on Fri May 09, 2008 at 02:45:11 PM EST
they s/he means actual posts, not comments.

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