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What's With Pelosi...Now SheThinks Hillary (none / 0) (#45)
by PssttCmere08 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:24:08 AM EST
should continue on?  Why the change of heart?

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The realized every time they call (5.00 / 0) (#54)
by rooge04 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:30:47 AM EST
for her ouster she beats their pants off.

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Pelosi (5.00 / 3) (#59)
by Kathy on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:33:49 AM EST
got a heated call from a huge dem money-man telling her to shut up.  Today, a handful of congressional dems also wrote a letter in support of Clinton, and explained why:

Pennsylvania was not just a victory for Hillary Clinton. It was also a wake- up call for superdelegates, forcing us to ask ourselves two essential questions: 1) Which candidate can carry the magic 270 electoral votes to win in the fall? 2) Which candidate is most likely to help our fellow Democrats in down-ballot races? We believe the answer to both of these questions is Hillary Clinton.

And, if Edwards voted Obama, that means Elizabeth voted Clinton.  I think Elizabeth coming out for Clinton would have far more impact than Edwards coming out for Obama.

It would also show to millions of women who the true uniter is.  Elizabeth was no fan of Clinton going into this thing.  If she's changed her mind, it's for a good reason.


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Kathy (5.00 / 1) (#91)
by DJ on Fri May 09, 2008 at 12:05:09 PM EST
Thank you for the link to that letter.  It cheered me up considerably.  

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Thanks Kathy....Clears That Up For Me... (none / 0) (#83)
by PssttCmere08 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:56:46 AM EST
I do think it is time for Pelosi to look for another job.  Maybe people have seen how she took the most powerful job a woman has had, so far, and squandered it.  She has not been an effective leader.  Maybe that is what is causing some people not to vote for Hillary...just a theory.

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Kathy, (none / 0) (#102)
by Iphie on Fri May 09, 2008 at 12:42:07 PM EST
is Harvey Weinstein the Clinton money-man to whom you are referring, or was there another one? CNN reported that he and Pelosi had a conversation (she hasn't denied the phone call took place) and that he knows how to get her attention in a way that the millions of Clinton voters don't seem to.
But the three officials briefed on the call insisted Weinstein went further by suggesting that if Pelosi did not consider his proposal on the revote, he would help slow the flow of donations to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which works to elect House Democrats.


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Harvey Hasn't Called Me To Say Don't Send (none / 0) (#108)
by PssttCmere08 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 01:03:58 PM EST
money.  I am not sending money to them strictly on principle.  They are undermining the democratic process and the democratic party.

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Send a thank you (none / 0) (#104)
by txpolitico67 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 12:43:34 PM EST
letter to EACH of these supporters.  It is SOOO important for them to know they are NOT alone in their thinking.

Besides, it would speak volumes if one of these reps go to another super D and say, "LOOK AT ALL these letters of support!"

If anyone is interested, I have made up a form letter that I send to all super D's who come out for Clinton.

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Tx....Can you put up a link to that letter? (none / 0) (#110)
by PssttCmere08 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 01:04:55 PM EST


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I would (none / 0) (#114)
by txpolitico67 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 01:13:35 PM EST
have to email it to you.  I have it on my pc @ home.  (@ work right now.)  I felt really good about it when I got a letter back from Sheila Jackson Lee thanking me for my support of her decision to back Hillary.

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Fairly new here...is it okay to post emails? (none / 0) (#125)
by PssttCmere08 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 02:33:59 PM EST


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Not sure (none / 0) (#126)
by txpolitico67 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 02:40:56 PM EST
kinda new here too.

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Perhaps she (4.00 / 0) (#63)
by cawaltz on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:38:56 AM EST
is smart enough to realize that folks like Brazile haven't thought things through and she isn't as anxious to write off the white working class. She needs Hillary's coalition, and I'm betting she is hoping that by allowing the process to work its way through she'll earn some good will come GE time.

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Obama will lose badly (none / 0) (#82)
by waldenpond on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:55:52 AM EST
in some of the upcoming states.  He would look even worse if Clinton were no longer in the race.  Many Obama supporters wanted her to stay in for this reason.  He's going to be pushed over the finish line and the focus is to make him look as good as possible.  

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absurd (1.00 / 0) (#112)
by VicAjax on Fri May 09, 2008 at 01:10:05 PM EST
that's a baseless claim.  but i can see how a diehard HRC supporter might enjoy watching that happen.

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I, for one, (1.00 / 1) (#124)
by txpolitico67 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 02:21:14 PM EST
would LOVE it. Watching Huffpost, Dkos and Americablog imploding would be ALL worth it.

Then see the AA's sink into MORE victimhood because one of their own lost.  Not because he's an inexperienced empty suit and has no true policy to get the USA out of this morass, but because he's BLACK.

Sorry, that's why you VOTED for him.  But that won't be the reason he will lose if he gets the nom.

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please don't... (none / 0) (#128)
by VicAjax on Fri May 09, 2008 at 02:54:02 PM EST

ascribe motives to my vote.

of course you would love to see all those influential sites crash and burn, because they endorsed a candidate other than your own and because there were some nasty, unnecessary things said about her.

i've seen plenty of blood and bile spewed by both sides, and try to write it off to overheated passions.  you may think HRC has taken the brunt, but i'd beg to differ, obviously.

it's your choice in the GE if you go vote for a pandering, disingenuous, irresponsible Republican shill.  but it won't be out of a clearsighted weighing of the real policies and positions of the Democratic candidate.  it will be out of short-sighted bitterness.  cutting off one's nose, as they say.

and i maintain, that the above prediction is groundless, and borne out the despair of seeing one's chosen candidate on the verge of a loss.  i'd probably feel the same way, for a bit, but i'm certain i'd come to my senses and gave the alternative a cold, hard look.

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I wasn't (none / 0) (#133)
by txpolitico67 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 03:27:56 PM EST
ascribing anything to your vote.  I was speaking to the reasons why AA's vote for Barack:  because he's black.  Re-read my statment.

You have your own valid reasons for voting for BHO.  Free country and all that jazz. I was just saying that blacks will blame the GE loss of Barack on racism.  Far from it.  He will lose because he is sorely lacking on policy and the GOP will frame him as an out-of-touch elitist.

Sorry, I'm just one of those great unwashed low-info voter here.  Next time I will be more succinct in my posts so you creative class types won't have to think so hard.

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ah ha... (none / 0) (#137)
by VicAjax on Fri May 09, 2008 at 03:37:38 PM EST
when i read "that's why YOU voted for him" i thought you were talking about me.  i understand now.

but yes, i am a creative class type, and i'm not going to apologize for it.  once upon a time, it was something to aspire to, i don't know how anti-intellectualism has spread from the GOP to the Democratic party... but i have my theories.

i also find it unhelpful for folks to be pre-attacking blacks as a group for a hypothesized rationalization about a supposed Obama loss.  it's beyond sour grapes.

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