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Obama fundraising is nuts (5.00 / 4) (#4)
by Kensdad on Thu May 08, 2008 at 07:46:09 AM EST
yesterday i got my first fundraising call from the obama campaign (i have been a donor, volunteer and strong supporter of the clinton campaign)...  first, i was asked if i supported obama (me: "no"); then the fundraiser said, "oh, you are still supporting Hillary Clinton (me: "yes"); then i was told that it was important to beat john mccain, so would i like to donate to obama (me: "no");  then, i was asked if they could send me some materials in the mail because i might be feeling differently in a month (me: "no");  then, she finally asked if i would vote for obama in the fall (me: "i will have to think about it")...

i just think that this kind of call on the morning after a contentious primary day is classless (they are welcome to capitalize on his "newfound" momentum, but once they know that i am a clinton supporter, then they should lay off)...  am i wrong?  am i being thin-skinned?  shouldn't they wait with these appeals to clinton supporters until (or when) she is out of the race?  

You must be a preclear... soon you will be an (5.00 / 1) (#5)
by Exeter on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:00:08 AM EST
Operating Thetan; )

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at my house (none / 0) (#13)
by Capt Howdy on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:19:58 AM EST
do you support Obama?

hello?

hellooooo . . .

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Naw. (5.00 / 1) (#17)
by Fabian on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:24:19 AM EST
Sure, I support Obama - when does his Senate race come up again?

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This is funny because I had (none / 0) (#41)
by andrys on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:45:20 AM EST
just yesterday written that Obama's "movement" reminds me so much of Scientology.  He still talks about "my movement" rather than the party.

- Andrys


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I heard a pollster talking about NC and IN (5.00 / 1) (#56)
by Exeter on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:52:12 AM EST
Basically preclears went for Hillary, but Thetans that had been in for several months could not be convinced to vote for Hillary or against Obama for ANY reason, whether it be Wright, Ayers, or that he can't win in November.

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Oh dear... (5.00 / 1) (#74)
by Upstart Crow on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:58:49 AM EST
"my movement" has other evocations for me.  Give him an enema and he'd fit in a matchbox.

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is that the three legged (none / 0) (#80)
by Capt Howdy on Thu May 08, 2008 at 09:01:35 AM EST
political stool we hear about?

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if we start hearing about E-meters (none / 0) (#48)
by Capt Howdy on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:47:58 AM EST
I am definitely going third party

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I avoid such comparisons in public. (none / 0) (#69)
by Fabian on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:56:44 AM EST
Obama, his campaign and his supporters remind me of many, many things but I avoid saying these things in public.  It upsets too many people - and it doesn't win anyone over.  

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I think (5.00 / 1) (#23)
by Claw on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:34:25 AM EST
Most likely you were called by a tired, inexperienced person, going down a huge list of potentials.  It's also almost certain that this person was reading from a loose script dictating that they--
1)Ask for money
2)Gather info about your political leanings
3)Ask if they can send you materials

Mistakes are common.  Long, long ago I called the brother of my candidate's opponent to ask if we could count on his support.  His response was pretty funny.
The McCain thing is tacky, I agree, but I'm sure that's also in the script.

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The one time I said, I don't like this man anymore (5.00 / 1) (#24)
by BarnBabe on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:35:56 AM EST
The nice Southern Drawl, you don't? He is the sweetest man in the world. I said, so was my x-husband, in public. Ha. The next time I just answered, NO WAY. End of conversation. So now I know I will be expecting some calls soon. I can be prepared. And nice answers for Hillary. With the DNC, it is, don't bother me until you seat Florida and Michigan.And now I can add and get rid of Donna too.

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actually the secret (none / 0) (#27)
by Capt Howdy on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:38:05 AM EST
is to give all political donations a fake phone number

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You have this all mapped out, don't you? Heh (none / 0) (#53)
by BarnBabe on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:50:23 AM EST
I can see you have a lot of experience in this. I do use my google e-mail address. Just cleaned 150 e-mails out of it yesterday. Click, click, click. Delete.

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yeah (none / 0) (#58)
by Capt Howdy on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:52:17 AM EST
done this before
if you want to be really nice you can give them your work phone number.
like I did Hillary.
I dont have a land line and I dont give out my cell.

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The secret to political donations (none / 0) (#64)
by Exeter on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:54:13 AM EST
is to never, ever give them. You will be hounded the rest of your life; )

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No Integrity (none / 0) (#50)
by Athena on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:48:56 AM EST
The Dems on the verge of a nominee who's willing to sneak into the convention with just 48 states?  No thank you.

A candidate with integrity would not accept a nomination with less than the entire country's votes.

But that's not Obama.  He's counting on all the powerbrokers of the party to wrestle a nomination for him, however they can.  48 states?  An asterisk on the process?  No problem.

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I got a call from (none / 0) (#63)
by magisterludi on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:54:01 AM EST
the Obama campaign Tuesday. Caught me totally off guard. I just blurted out "No, No, No!" and hit the end button. I actually regret it, too. There was no reason for me to be rude to the caller. My bad.


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Made me laugh (none / 0) (#143)
by BarnBabe on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:26:56 PM EST
I had the Amy Winehouse CD on and it was right at the part of No No No.  Maybe I should just keep that part for the phone. Ha. "They tried to make me vote Obama. I said, No No No." I would at least have some fun with it.

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Well, they could wait until the body's (none / 0) (#149)
by andrys on Fri May 09, 2008 at 12:36:08 AM EST
... cold, but it's not even dead.  

  I go easy on direct-callers that somehow make it through with surveys, while keeping it short.  I know they're probably supplementing income and hoping to get by, so I let them know I don't want to waste their time but I hope they meet a quota with people more into this.  It usually works, as they don't want to waste good time either.

  It reminds me of when Obama didn't want to pose for a picture for a pushy blue-collar worker because, his staff said, the guy was an ebay seller.  WELL, in Ohio, some people have to make-do, and ebay selling is just a way to work and make some money from it.

- Andrys


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Get your talking points in order! (none / 0) (#12)
by Fabian on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:18:57 AM EST
The most fun I have with pollsters and survey takers is when my "no" answers are punctuated with a snort of derision or guffaw of disbelief.  I don't get telemarketers because of the no call list, but since I'm home during the day I often get a poll or phone survey at least once a month.

Marketing surveys, political polls - I do them all.  I will tell you that the bane of a survey is a high information subject.  We know too danged much to answer "yes" or "no" when we are supposed to.  I've smacked down a few misleading talking points in my time at bat.

The next time you find yourself on the phone, remember to tell them why you are turning them down.  Politely, of course.

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