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Ed Kilgore For The Unity Ticket | 221 comments (221 topical)
Wasn't LBJ more (5.00 / 1) (#102)
by IndiDemGirl on Thu May 08, 2008 at 05:43:54 PM EST
experienced than JFK?  Obama is getting "promoted" over her.  He has won the nomination  - or will.  At that time, asking her to be VP is not an insult.  It is a sign of respect for an strong campaigner.

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JFK and LBJ were both men . . . (5.00 / 4) (#137)
by Palomino on Thu May 08, 2008 at 05:50:43 PM EST
. . . so your analogy ignores the crucial aspect of sexism, that is, misogyny, that is, socially sanctioned, institutionally perpetuated, psychotic hatred of women, with all that this attitude implies.

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There is a contest and (none / 0) (#207)
by IndiDemGirl on Thu May 08, 2008 at 06:09:17 PM EST
one candidate wins.  The 2nd place candidate is a damn good candidate with strong supporters.  Winning candidate should offer position to 2nd place candidate.  That could/should  happen no matter what gender the candidates were.

So if HRC was a man it would be OK for Obama to offer him the vp slot?  

TO me it is sexist to NOT OFFER her the slot.

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LBJ (5.00 / 2) (#178)
by Emma on Thu May 08, 2008 at 05:59:46 PM EST
also got 409 delegates on the first and only ballot at the Democratic Convention in 1960.  He wasn't competitive against Kennedy like Clinton is against Obama.  And he wasn't offered the VP until after he lost the race fair and square. Let me emphasize the fair and square part.

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BTD opened the discussion (none / 0) (#193)
by IndiDemGirl on Thu May 08, 2008 at 06:04:40 PM EST
about the unity ticket.  Are you suggesting he is also against the "fair and square" argument?  

But let's just say it is an entirely hypothetical argument.  In that case if Obama gets the nomination, I think it would be wise to offer the nomination to HRC.  

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Actually, yes, but (none / 0) (#160)
by JavaCityPal on Thu May 08, 2008 at 05:56:21 PM EST
as I remember it, LBJ resented JFK tremendously.

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Yep, but he stepped up to the (5.00 / 2) (#176)
by IndiDemGirl on Thu May 08, 2008 at 05:59:27 PM EST
plate like an adult and did what the party needed. JFK wasn't a big fan of LBJs either, but he did what was necessary.  It's time for both sides to do the same now.

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yeah, problem is that BO is no JFK. (5.00 / 4) (#191)
by kangeroo on Thu May 08, 2008 at 06:03:57 PM EST
not in a million years, not by a longshot.  wishful thinking won't make him so.  that's why the analogy doesn't fit.

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Um. (none / 0) (#172)
by ChiTownDenny on Thu May 08, 2008 at 05:58:57 PM EST
Didn't JFK have significantly more national experience that BHO, sexism aside?

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My point is NOT to compare (5.00 / 1) (#186)
by IndiDemGirl on Thu May 08, 2008 at 06:01:53 PM EST
Obama with JFK, but was to give one example of cases where the traditionallly experienced candidate was the VP.  And couldn't you make an argument that Al Gore was more experienced in Washington wasys then was Bill Clinton?  

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OK. (5.00 / 2) (#206)
by ChiTownDenny on Thu May 08, 2008 at 06:09:03 PM EST
If the traditionally experienced candidate may have been the VP, what about the "no experience" candidate?  He should be the Pres?

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Ed Kilgore For The Unity Ticket | 221 comments (221 topical)

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