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Is she secretly working for Rove? (5.00 / 4) (#3)
by dianem on Thu May 08, 2008 at 11:52:34 AM EST
You don't punish "states". You punish "voters", none of whom had any say in when they got to vote. I'm sure that there are many voter's who don't care and will vote for Obama in the general election anyway, or who would have voted for McCain and will not switch. But history has shown that it doesn't take a lot to switch the tally from from "Democrat" to "Republican" in a purple state.

Brazille, repeat after me: "The voter's of Florida and Michigan are important to the Democratic Party, and we will do everything in our power to ensure that their wishes are represented in this highly contested primary". There...was that so hard?

I hate to cast aspersions (5.00 / 1) (#43)
by annabelly on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:15:13 PM EST
In this already paranoid atmosphere, but one has to wonder. She's the one who's confessed to talking to Karl Rove several times a week since 2003 and she's the one that said on national TV that white male Republicans had done more for her personally in the last 7 years than Democrats. I don't know why she isn't' thrown out on her ear.

Democrats don't need her. All she's ever done for us is lose (Gore, 2000).

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I was joking (none / 0) (#82)
by dianem on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:50:25 PM EST
But you have some really good points. At the very least, it's safe to assume that her loyalties are divided. So ... why is this woman so important in the Democratic Party?

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even though Donna hasn't declared (none / 0) (#39)
by thereyougo on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:14:16 PM EST
who she supports do you believe it isn't Obama?

I can't wait till he throws her under the bus with the rest of Obama big supporters. Getting crowed in there.

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Words matter (5.00 / 2) (#65)
by litigatormom on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:34:46 PM EST
But so do deeds.  Brazile explicitly said she is not uncommitted, but merely undeclared.  In other words, she is keeping her commitment a (very) thinly veiled secret.  So thin, in fact, that it can only be called a naked secret.

Brazile, perhaps even more than Dean, seems to have her ego entirely invested in punishing the MI and FLA state parties who she thinks refused to bend to her will -- despite the fact that the FLA Democrats were effectively held hostage to the early primary date by a Republican dominated state legislature, and despite the fact that both state parties made repeated attempts to ameliorate the situation, including by conducting re-votes.  The DNC, no doubt at Donna's demand, made such proposals subject to Obama's veto.

Brazile seems far more interested in keeping her ego inflated than in permitting innocent FLA and MI voters have their say in the nomination process. She seems entirely willing to permit -- nay, enable -- MI and FLA to go red this year.  In other words, she appears to be entirely willing to punish each and every one of us, every single American, by handing the White House to John McCain.  

Please, Donna, don't complain to me about the voters who say they can't support Obama in the GE under such circumstances.  It is we, true and loyal Democrats, who will complain to you when the Third Bush Term begins on January 20, 2009. You, whose ego is more important than even your protege Barack Obama's victory.  As readers of this blog know, yesterday I said I was willing to vote for Obama in the fall. YOU can change my mind.  YOU seem to be intent on changing my mind.

Is the real secret, Donna, that you WANT John McCain to be president?

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there seem to be a lot of big egos lately (none / 0) (#99)
by hellothere on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:24:11 PM EST
in obama's corner. that alone will do him in before november.

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You Give too Much Credit (none / 0) (#103)
by BackFromOhio on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:50:37 PM EST
I agree that there is probably some ego operating, but I think that singling out for punishment only 2 out of 5 states that violated the same rule is partisan and pro-Obama; everyone knew that Hillary also stood to do much better than Obama in both Michigan & Florida.    

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why (none / 0) (#44)
by kcarab on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:15:55 PM EST
are people who support Obama automatically labeled as throwing Clinton under the bus?

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Someone in her position (5.00 / 2) (#56)
by cmugirl on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:26:23 PM EST
as in on the Rules Committee and high up in the DNC, not to mention on TV, should remain neutral publicly.  She has no business being so obviously in the tank for Obama.  Just shows she's not professional.  What a hack.

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Because they are willing to (5.00 / 4) (#69)
by litigatormom on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:37:03 PM EST
completely piss off the voters in two critical swing states rather than compete for them.

And it's not just Clinton they are throwing under the bus. It's all of us.  MI and FLA are about far more than Hillary Clinton's victories there.  They are about the (supposed) principles of the Democratic Party, principles that are not supposed to change depending on the identity of the frontrunner or the nominee.

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It's not automatic (none / 0) (#81)
by dianem on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:48:52 PM EST
It just keeps happening again and again.

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Call Me Crazy (none / 0) (#102)
by BackFromOhio on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:46:32 PM EST
But I think Donna is doing what she does for Donna, like a lot of the anti-Hillary Dems, who seem to be acting out of fear that if Hillary is the nominee for President & gets elected, they will hold no power.  And hasn't Donna's consulting firm done work for Rove?

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Agree (none / 0) (#108)
by AnninCA on Fri May 09, 2008 at 02:57:29 AM EST
that the issue is clear.  Donna and the other nitwits think there's something to be gained from Obama.

They don't like being led.

However, my take is that they have done nothing but jumped horses.

They'll be led.

My personal conclusion?

Their egos are in charge of their brains.  They will take the "hope" of leading him over the reality that they aren't really in charge.

He'll dump her, too, just like he'll dump moveon.org, Huffington, and even Clyburn.

Clyburn is the true sad story.  The guy just dumped his "mentor."  What chance does Clyburn have?

He's a simple decade in thinking beyond Wright.  Not by much.

He'll get dashed to the ground soon.  

As soon as Obama decides, he no longer needs him.

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How did (none / 0) (#109)
by BackFromOhio on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:31:46 PM EST
Obama dump Clyburn?

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