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On Electability and How the Presidential Race Has Changed | 206 comments (206 topical)
Ann...I don't understand that either...latinos (none / 0) (#92)
by PssttCmere08 on Sun May 04, 2008 at 04:19:53 PM EST
have NOT been big supporters of obama and Clinton did win NV...I think this is just a wrong call.

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Signaling (none / 0) (#102)
by hlr on Sun May 04, 2008 at 04:35:08 PM EST
Richardson for VP.

 

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Richardson would be (5.00 / 1) (#129)
by sickofhypocrisy on Sun May 04, 2008 at 05:12:02 PM EST
a hideous choice.  When I look at Richardson, I don't see strength.  He would need someone more hawkish to offset his dove-like demeanor and policies.  I would expect someone more along the lines of Jim Webb.

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VP short list (none / 0) (#148)
by hlr on Sun May 04, 2008 at 05:42:00 PM EST
What I've seen cited in the media most often for Obama is Richardson, Casey, Bloomberg.

Richardson -- indicates a West/Hispanic strategy.

Casey -- shore up Penn, perhaps OH. I think the Dems would be playing w/ fire. Let's not forget all the assurances that Casey wouldn't get anywhere near Judiciary Comm, but now a pro-lifer on the Dem ticket?

Bloomberg -- shore up moderate Repubs, perhaps Jewish voters.

I think they're all horrid choices. The real problem is that there's no 'one size fits all' VP to shore up all the areas in which Obama is bleeding.

Webb only barely won his race and doesn't like to campaign.

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Richardson (5.00 / 1) (#154)
by AnninCA on Sun May 04, 2008 at 05:50:42 PM EST
absolutely has no shot at the VP spot.  He's a joke, particularly after his hideous endorsement.

Obama hasn't touched his endorsements one bit.

You'll note that Hillary's endorsers......Rendell, Bayh, and what's his face from NC......they actually campaign together.

Obama?  He has to distance himself from his endorsers.  LOL*

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The problem with all of those choices (none / 0) (#170)
by cmugirl on Sun May 04, 2008 at 06:01:32 PM EST
(with the exception of Richardson, IMO) is that they would all outshine Obama.

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I vote D no matter what, (none / 0) (#193)
by eleanora on Sun May 04, 2008 at 06:26:04 PM EST
but if Bloomberg is on the ticket, I'm out.  He's a traitor to the Democrats, don't care if he's an Independent now. You don't get rewarded for turning Republican with a place on our presidential ticket, not ever. Even if Clinton was at the top, that's a dealbreaker for me.

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Obama Needs To Change The Rulz (none / 0) (#206)
by MO Blue on Sun May 04, 2008 at 06:53:52 PM EST
He needs to be allowed 10 - 15 VPs on his ticket. <snark>

Richardson ran a horrible campaign when he was trying for the top spot. It was actually painful to watch. Might be an asset to bring in latino voters but might hurt him in other areas.

Casey on the ticket ensures  that I will definitely stay home. SCOTUS is the only reason I might even think about voting for Obama. I lack faith in what type of nominees to SCOTUS Obama would pick even now. Casey would reinforce my doubts and set up the possibility that if something tragic happened he would be the one making the picks. No way I would support that.

Bloomberg would also mean I stay home. So far, Obama has indicated that he might place Republicans in positions of Sec. of Defense and State. Now he is thinking about selecting a Republican VP. If I wanted Republicans, I would vote for McCain.

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Not sure that is (none / 0) (#118)
by 0 politico on Sun May 04, 2008 at 04:52:27 PM EST
enough.  Particularly when he bit the hands theat made him.

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How about Napolitano, but overall I agree if Obama (none / 0) (#146)
by Salt on Sun May 04, 2008 at 05:38:21 PM EST
is the nominee then the intent is to throw the race.  But I also believe the landscape of American politics will change and I am hoping it will be for the good.  Both Party's brands have been raked through the mud, the MSM look like total hacks, the American electorate has every reason to ignore these two entities when determining who is a desirable candidate and will govern well in our interest.

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I won't vote for a ticket (5.00 / 1) (#161)
by Jeralyn on Sun May 04, 2008 at 05:55:26 PM EST
with Napolitano. She's just another law and order prosecutor-turned-politician. She's a former U.S. Attorney who also served as Arizona Attorney General.

The New York Times says she allowed Arizona's enforcement-only, "toughest in the nation" immigration bill to become law there.

If Obama picks a law and order politician like Napolitano, he's lost my vote.

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I was living in AZ at the time (5.00 / 1) (#181)
by JavaCityPal on Sun May 04, 2008 at 06:12:34 PM EST
but, preparing to move back to WA, so didn't pay real close attention. Reports on the news were that emergency services, teachers, anyone who gave an illegal immigrant access to public services could be held criminally responsible.

Someone from AZ is welcome to dispute that, of course.

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Maybe I'm a cynic, but... (none / 0) (#167)
by diogenes on Sun May 04, 2008 at 06:01:06 PM EST
I'd bet you'd vote for a ticket with Napolitano on it if Hillary headed it.

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No on Napolitano... (none / 0) (#157)
by white n az on Sun May 04, 2008 at 05:52:29 PM EST
turn a Democratic governor into a Republican (this is a 'resign to run state'), little chance of beating McCain, unable to bring other states in for Obama.

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Not likely (none / 0) (#169)
by ChrisO on Sun May 04, 2008 at 06:01:15 PM EST
considering that he couldn't even deliver the Latino vote to himself.

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Guaranteed loss (none / 0) (#194)
by JavaCityPal on Sun May 04, 2008 at 06:26:25 PM EST
two whiners is four times worse than just one.

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On Electability and How the Presidential Race Has Changed | 206 comments (206 topical)

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