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She has to win Oregon (none / 0) (#5)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:10:35 PM EST
or she should make her deal with Obama.

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Demographics (5.00 / 10) (#12)
by Stellaaa on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:13:31 PM EST
No way she wins Oregon.  It's full of California liberals.  You know the kind, they are not "racist" like the other whites, but they moved from California cause of the schools and the "crime".  

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They don't take offense? (5.00 / 2) (#58)
by JavaCityPal on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:36:33 PM EST
to his thinking they were a Great Lakes state? Or, state #57 of 59?

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I was thinking the same thing (5.00 / 6) (#85)
by angie on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:48:37 PM EST
Don't the people in Oregon care that he did an obvious cut-and-paste job on the flier he sent out to them? I know I'm a Hillary girl, but even if I wasn't that would bug me enough to not vote for him because it makes it look like he doesn't care.  And yes, I know it wasn't him personally that wrote the fliers, but that is irrelevant. It is his campaign, and he is ultimately responsible. Also, I just don't see how the people in Oregon (and the other states that haven't voted) don't care about him telling WV & KY that he doesn't "need" them --- that would bother me about someone running for President, because it is not because of lack of $ that he is in WV, but because it doesn't look like he will win, so he isn't even trying. Well, then, what would he do as President if a sticky situation with another country arose that didn't look favorable for the US? Just ignore it? Trying despite the odds is a quality I personally want in a President. I just can't understand how these qualities aren't important to other voters as well.  

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Seems a lot like voting present to me (5.00 / 1) (#95)
by RalphB on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:57:17 PM EST
Presidents don't get to do that!

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They will give her an audience (none / 0) (#18)
by andgarden on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:14:58 PM EST
As we know, there were other demographic groups that would not.

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Indiana didn't work that way for Obama (5.00 / 4) (#91)
by RalphB on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:54:55 PM EST
and I see no reason the goal post for her shouldn't move as well.  She should stay in this to the convention.

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If the momentum had been in her direction (none / 0) (#11)
by andgarden on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:13:13 PM EST
and last week had gone her way, I think she would have had a 50:50 shot at Oregon. Now I think she has a 10% chance.

For her, odds probably worth playing, but not great ones. Better than Obama has of even coming close in KY or WV, which is surely why he isn't campaigning there. (Though Hillary campaigned in MS and SC--go figure).

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Yes, go figure. (5.00 / 7) (#20)
by madamab on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:15:55 PM EST
She respects voters enough to ask for ALL of their votes. What a novel approach.

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BTD, everytime you say she must win (none / 0) (#15)
by katiebird on Sat May 10, 2008 at 09:13:59 PM EST
a state, she does.  I think.

What if she wins Oregon?  Does that put her on a path to the nomination?

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Actually not sure it matters (none / 0) (#157)
by IzikLA on Sun May 11, 2008 at 04:14:59 AM EST
Although he thinks she has to win it and others think if she splits that OR loss with a KY win she has a graceful exit point I think the reality will be different.  

I think she wins KY by a much larger margin than he wins OR and, as such, the narrative will make it difficult or kind of silly for him to declare winning that night and she will have even more reason to remain in the race.

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Why? (none / 0) (#122)
by lambert on Sat May 10, 2008 at 10:42:41 PM EST
Don't the SDs decide regardless? And -- assuming they want to win -- won't they do the only math that matters, which is the EC math?

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