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GO HILLARY...MAKE US PROUD...IT AIN'T OVER (5.00 / 3) (#1)
by PssttCmere08 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 10:58:19 AM EST
People have got to see the light and that light is NOT obama.

actually it is. (1.00 / 2) (#4)
by AgreeToDisagree on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:00:34 AM EST
please lay out a realistic, rational path to the nomination.  there is none.  we need to move on to McCain.  together.

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Look, you move on to McCain (5.00 / 10) (#6)
by Stellaaa on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:01:22 AM EST
and just let us amuse ourselves.  Have fun.  Ciao.  

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what atrios said... (5.00 / 1) (#10)
by AgreeToDisagree on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:04:13 AM EST
At this point, however, Obama's won... I don't think Clinton has to drop out. She can continue to campaign through to the last contest if she wants (she doesn't need my permission to do so), though hopefully... the emphasis of the campaign shifts away from Obama's supposed lack of appeal to real Americans.


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Atrios...another great thinker (5.00 / 7) (#20)
by Stellaaa on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:09:31 AM EST
Blogger boiz do not do my thinking.  

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Oh Atrios (5.00 / 6) (#21)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:11:25 AM EST
Keeper of all that is true. ;-).

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Gotta understand (5.00 / 7) (#12)
by Edgar08 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:05:24 AM EST
anyone interested in real togetherness wouldn't have your attitude about other people and how they regard their candidate.


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i would (none / 0) (#16)
by AgreeToDisagree on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:07:32 AM EST
be behind hillary if the tables were flipped.  i care way more about the values, policies and execution of our party than either Obama or Clinton personally.  

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Yes (5.00 / 4) (#17)
by Edgar08 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:09:02 AM EST
But I wouldn't be all over an Obama blog repeating some tired stupid talking point about "math" and "Path to victory" if the situation was reversed.

Capeesh?

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you're right (3.00 / 2) (#24)
by AgreeToDisagree on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:13:50 AM EST
that this is a clinton blog.  whoops, wrong horse.  

i love when facts are "talking points".  

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Togetherness? (5.00 / 3) (#33)
by Edgar08 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:18:01 AM EST
Stop lying and just admit you want to smack some people down?

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Aren't you even curious about why (none / 0) (#92)
by hairspray on Sun May 11, 2008 at 11:45:00 AM EST
Clinton blew Obama out of the water in Mass in February?  Did it have anything to do with their new governor, an Obama knockoff, who has done a miserable job there and the citizens know it?  But oh my, what a great speaker he is.

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Aren't you even curious about why (none / 0) (#93)
by hairspray on Sun May 11, 2008 at 11:46:11 AM EST
Clinton blew Obama out of the water in Mass in February?  Did it have anything to do with their new governor, an Obama knockoff, who has done a miserable job there and the citizens know it?  But oh my, what a great speaker he is.

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Prove it: (5.00 / 4) (#28)
by feet on earth on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:15:25 AM EST
Stand for Real Universal Health Care
Stand for No Talk about privatization of Social Security
Stand for Strong Real Income Redistribution Taxes
Stand for Economic Justice Policies
Ect.
Ect.
Ect.

See you in Denver - Convention Floor Time after June 3rd to take  the party back

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And (5.00 / 1) (#82)
by sas on Sat May 10, 2008 at 04:11:04 PM EST
stand for gays.

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the clinton's are very smart. (none / 0) (#32)
by AgreeToDisagree on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:17:13 AM EST
they won't be with you at the convention.  unless she is VP, which might happen.

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The Noble Ted Kennedy did it (5.00 / 2) (#45)
by feet on earth on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:33:39 AM EST
the less noble Clintons are supposed not to do it because they are smarter?  Watch out if Florida and Michigan are denied full participation.

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I hope MI and FL are not denied because (5.00 / 2) (#70)
by stefystef on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:46:58 PM EST
it will mean the loss of the General Election in November.

Even my mother, life-long Democratic, is looking into switching to Independent.  After these last 28 years, Democrats have only had 8 years in the White House.

Only 8 years!!!  And those were the best 8 years in the last two decades.  But do you think the Dems would applaud that?  No.

Florida will go Republican in November and McCain's camp is already setting up shop in Michigan.

I see 1972 again.  I guess it's appropriate that McGovern, the biggest loser in history would endorse Obama.  Well, the Dems wanted Obama.

Be careful for what you wish for.

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People here (5.00 / 2) (#58)
by kenoshaMarge on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:09:36 PM EST
keep trying to tell you that you are actually doing your preferred candidate harm with your constant attacks on us and our candidate. The nomination will be over when it's over. Until then please do us the courtesy to just go away. You are convincing no one and annoying just about everyone here.

 

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In light of that, how do you feel about (5.00 / 3) (#46)
by Joan in VA on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:34:06 AM EST
the Obama campaign flooding WV with calls telling people that he's won and not to vote? Is voter suppression one of our values, policies or correct execution?

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Can you back that up? (none / 0) (#48)
by Pootsteen on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:36:07 AM EST
I haven't read a lot of news today but I have not seen this story.

Do you have a legit source for this allegation?

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I read it at Riverdaughter's blog. (none / 0) (#52)
by Joan in VA on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:56:41 AM EST


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Not much of a source (1.00 / 0) (#62)
by Pootsteen on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:25:08 PM EST
but thanks for trying.

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Well, don't pull that Electric Chair switch yet. (5.00 / 2) (#51)
by BarnBabe on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:50:43 AM EST
Our pulse is still beating. Now let's get back to West Virginia. Why is this state being ignored? It is surrounded by large states but never ever looked at really and yet Robert Byrd and Rockefeller, two very distinguished legislators are the Senators there. Hillary fought her heart out in NC even though it was a totally uphill battle. This is very telling about Obama. Someone better tell him that the GE will be about all of the people in the United States. 50 states, right? Enough about talking down McCain right now. He also needs to be talking to the people too.

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It's just small (none / 0) (#54)
by AnninCA on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:57:51 AM EST
that's all.

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Winners never quit (5.00 / 1) (#57)
by DJ on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:04:24 PM EST
quitters never win.

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Obama hasn't laid out a realistic path (5.00 / 2) (#18)
by Josey on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:09:11 AM EST
to the general!
There aren't enough Obama Girls and latte sippers to carry him over the top.


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all those latte sippers (none / 0) (#29)
by AgreeToDisagree on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:15:55 AM EST
in iowa, maine, wyoming, wisconsin, n. dakota, washington, south carolina, mississippi,etc?  

apparently the majority of voters are latte sippers.   ok.

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SC, ND, MS, WY - red now, red in Nov (5.00 / 3) (#35)
by Josey on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:22:02 AM EST


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When Farm Workers (5.00 / 1) (#40)
by feet on earth on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:29:00 AM EST
will not be able to milk cows anymore and the "latte" from China does not make a nice cappuccino I wonder what wold they sip

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all those latte (none / 0) (#87)
by delacarpa on Sun May 11, 2008 at 12:09:17 AM EST
Have you checked his polls in those states you just mentioned?

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all those latte sippers (none / 0) (#88)
by delacarpa on Sun May 11, 2008 at 12:11:06 AM EST
Have you checked the polls that you just mentioned lately?

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The Path: The Convention Floor (5.00 / 1) (#19)
by feet on earth on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:09:16 AM EST


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I am fascinated by your psychology (5.00 / 7) (#25)
by Stellaaa on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:14:35 AM EST
 the need to come here and constantly make these jabs.  It's the Axelrod technique, psychological warfare.  Do you realize how crass and vulgar your attitude is?

 Of course you do and you derive some kind of perverted satisfaction from this behaviour. Obviously you are very clever and well read, cause you use your skills with us, who are also very clever and well read, purposefully.  

Frankly, I have no problem with opposition, its the well thought out attack that I find rather perverse on your part.  It does not bother me cause we all here recognize your ploy.  It's just that I am fascinated by the satisfaction that you get.  

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Like I told you (5.00 / 1) (#34)
by Stellaaa on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:19:35 AM EST
Your "1" are badge of honor.  Could not respond, so you jab.  

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You think (5.00 / 1) (#84)
by sas on Sat May 10, 2008 at 04:14:26 PM EST
things are bad now?

Wait 'til Obama declares himself the winner on 5/20!

Thing are really going to get UGLY>

Of course he will do this because he wants to say it BEFORE Puerto Rico puts her over the top in popular vote.

What a FREAKIIN' WEASEL!

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Off topic AGAIN N/T (5.00 / 1) (#47)
by Marvin42 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:35:05 AM EST


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OK (5.00 / 2) (#59)
by wurman on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:18:06 PM EST
Sen. Obama shows up at the convention with about 2100 to delegates.

Sen. Clinton show up with about 2000 delegates.

Lots of "stuff" happens in the Rules & By-Laws and the Credentials committees----LOTS!

No matter what the 2 committes decide, Sen. Obama doesn't have 2209 delegate votes on the first ballot.  A major floor battle ensues & it will be won by the candidate with the most skillful parliamentarians & the most advanced abilities in horse-trading, palaver & fulfillable promises.

Some folks stupidly think that the convention is a gig where all the Obama folks stand on one side of the hall, all the Clinton folks on the other & then the superdelegates choose sides, the chair counts & Obama wins.

It's a roll call vote, by state, beginning with Alabama.  They will yield to some huge state--if it's New York, the Obama crowd can go make their airline reservations to fly home.

See ya' in 8 years, turkey.

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It'll be CA before NY ;) (none / 0) (#61)
by nycstray on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:21:20 PM EST


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It's telling (5.00 / 2) (#64)
by Kathy on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:29:27 PM EST
that she went into NC and other hostile territories, even though she knew she'd lose, while Obama is choosing to ignore two whole states.

Reminds me of the oft-quoted Michelle Obama screaming at his advisors about how Obama should never go into a room that's stacked against him.

We need a leader.  We need a fighter.  We need Clinton.

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Never heard that one re:Michelle (none / 0) (#65)
by nycstray on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:39:29 PM EST
He'll be a puppet president I suspect . . .

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It was in Newsweek (none / 0) (#66)
by Kathy on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:38:14 PM EST
and presented as positive that she was "taking care of her man."

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But, Kathy. Don't forget (none / 0) (#75)
by oculus on Sat May 10, 2008 at 02:39:42 PM EST
Michelle wouldn't a job offer until Barack met the interviewer.  

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That job of hers was with the machine (5.00 / 1) (#83)
by Cream City on Sat May 10, 2008 at 04:11:51 PM EST
in Chicago, the Daley machine -- so that was her spouse's entre into the inner circle that put him on the path to where he is today.

And, of course, his entire lead in the popular vote today is entirely from his state, almost all of it from Chicago.  The Daley machine did it almost half a century ago and is doing it again -- doing whatever it takes to win the presidency.


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