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Just have to say, (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by mattt on Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 12:17:58 PM EST
as a longtime reader, that I was unable to comment on Jeralyn's "methodology" in her recent post on popular vote counts, because I was reduced to staring in slack-jawed amazement. I understand you're an advocate by training and vocation, and that's what you're doing now for Hillary Clinton. But you have to know this kind of...stuff is going to affect your credibility with some people, long after November. At least it will, with this person.

Your dispute is with super-delegates (5.00 / 2) (#6)
by Cream City on Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 12:26:27 PM EST
who are counting the popular vote just that way -- I read of one recently saying so.

You can't refute that there are many ways to count the popular vote this year, because of the DNC and the Obama campaign (exploiting that the DNC let so many states set up caucuses and that the DNC screwed up how to handle FL and MI).  

You count them differently, that's all.  Not that it matters how you or Jeralyn or I count the popular vote.  It's how super-d's do so, so talk to yours.  

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I had the same reaction (none / 0) (#18)
by fuzzyone on Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 12:51:19 PM EST
The idea that the votes of 40 states is some reasonable metric to use makes no sense to me.  More importantly it does not seem likely to convince many superdelegates.  

I have not seen the Clinton campaign make the argument which is smart. If you think not seating MI and FL will piss off those states how do you think the caucus states will feel if the SDs base their decision on a popular vote that excludes them.  

The bottom line is that popular vote does not count at all.  The only way to use it is as a persuasive device and the count that Jeralyn used does not strike me as at all persuasive.

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What poll (none / 0) (#37)
by BarnBabe on Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 01:20:15 PM EST
and where is the link? All poll are different and we need to know which one you are referring.

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