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Divided We Fall (5.00 / 0) (#23)
by john horse on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 06:32:19 PM EST
I was listening to this piece on NPR that said there was a poll showing that
almost 30 percent of Clinton supporters and nearly 20 percent of Obama supporters say that if their preferred candidate doesn't win the nomination, they'll vote Republican.

I don't believe this poll.  However, if it is true, then all I can say to the 30 percent Cllinton supporters and the 20 percent Obama supporters is are you guys crazy.  I expect this from Nader supporters but I thought us Democrats were still living in the reality based world.  

Voting for McCain because your preferred Democratic party candidate did not win the nomination is the equivalent of a political hissy fit and, also, a betrayal of everything that your candidate stands for.  And in case you've forgotten what Obama and Clinton stands for, its pretty simple.  They are both against four more years of Bush because a vote for McCain is a vote for Bush's third term.

Have we learned nothing from the 2000 election?

 

re: have we learned nothing from 2000? (4.00 / 0) (#31)
by rose city on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 06:39:41 PM EST
If Obama wins by disenfranchising Democratic voters in MI and FL than I can't vote for him. He wins the nomination clean, or he doesn't get my vote. Period.

What we learned from the 2000 election is that all votes must be counted.

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As one of the disenfranchised Florida voters (none / 0) (#42)
by john horse on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 07:01:54 PM EST
rose city,
As a fellow Clinton supporter and one of those disenfranchised Florida voters, I understand where you are coming from.

However, I would vote for Obama if he won the nomination.  The differences between Obama and Clinton are miniscule compared to the differences between either of them and McCain.

You are partially right.  One of the lessons of the 2000 election was that every vote should count.  However, another lesson is that there will be consequences to allowing the Republicans to win the election by sitting it out or wasting your vote.  Isn't eight years of Bush enough?

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even though I will vote democratic (none / 0) (#47)
by Florida Resident on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 08:03:54 PM EST
in November.  My personal impression is that I don't trust Obama to be a good president or that we are not going to regret it if he becomes president.

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I will vote for the Dem candidate.. (none / 0) (#62)
by FlaDemFem on Sat Apr 05, 2008 at 09:45:36 AM EST
however, I don't think Obama is capable of doing the job. There is real work involved in the office of President, and he doesn't seem to work much. And I don't think he is as capable a legislator as Hillary is. Fortunately, I can vote the straight Dem ticket, there is a little box for that, so I am spared the necessity of actually checking off Obama's name on the ballot, should it come to that. I am not sure I could bring myself to actually do that.

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They said they would vote for McCain?. (none / 0) (#27)
by Maria Garcia on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 06:34:54 PM EST
...yikes I thought they just said that they wouldn't vote for the other candidate and I assumed that a large number of them would simply not vote.

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I Don't Believe It (none / 0) (#44)
by john horse on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 07:06:26 PM EST
Maria,
Like I said I don't believe the poll.  As far as the NPR broadcast goes, they never actually interviewed anyone who said he or she would vote for McCain if either Obama or Clinton lost.  The closest they come was to quote a Clinton supporter who said that she knew people who said that.  

I mean after 8 years of Bush I find it hard to believe that there are 20 to 30 percent of Democrats who would do that.

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The problem is not dems voting McCain (none / 0) (#49)
by Kathy on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 08:11:51 PM EST
the prob is dems staying home.

It's the same thing that handed Bush the presidency and the same thing that lost it for Kerry.  If just ten percent more had turned out, then the results would have been different.  We have got to have someone who energizes the base.

You know, like Clinton.

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Lots of crazy going around. n/t (none / 0) (#35)
by Faust on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 06:47:43 PM EST


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