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hyperbole, not sexism (none / 0) (#69)
by jerry on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:01:51 PM EST
In reading only the words, it's just hardball politics.

We shouldn't get caught up in the phony umbrage war (as Michael Kinsley put in on yesterday's Diane Rehm show)

And we should ignore shakespearessister who thrives on the phony umbrage wars.

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well, only HE comes out. (5.00 / 1) (#93)
by Salo on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:12:47 PM EST
choice words.

Rather than SHE comes out.

sheesh deconstruct that.

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Really whether it is a woman or man (5.00 / 1) (#124)
by inclusiveheart on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:48:01 PM EST
that was taken in and didn't come out, it is irresponsible imagery when we have a non-violent democratic system to decide which candidate gets to win.

BushCult takes people into rooms from which they don't emerge.

I'd like to think that Democrats do not also subscribe to that kind of threatening and bullying even if it is only meant to be metaphorical.

I'm getting tired of this never-ending primary season too, but a Burr-Hamilton duel is NOT the answer for godsakes.  People are getting really wacked out

Let the voters do their thing.

Let the supers read the voters' tea leaves and let's stick to our non-violent process of selecting leadership.

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Burr-Hamilton, huh? (5.00 / 1) (#136)
by Molly Pitcher on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 02:01:37 PM EST
Well, Hillary says she had some lessons.

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Yes (none / 0) (#97)
by squeaky on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:16:33 PM EST
The He is Obama. just like 'him' often refers to Jesus.

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"Just the words"? (4.83 / 6) (#95)
by eleanora on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:14:39 PM EST
Words matter. A prominent media figure calling for a male superdelegate to take a female candidate into a room and "only he comes out" is encouraging and normalizing the idea that violence against a woman by a man is an acceptable political tactic.

Violence against women is a serious problem in this country and around the world.  My anger at this comment is not phony.

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I agree (5.00 / 1) (#127)
by angie on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:50:14 PM EST
if KO had not been displaying such blatant hatred and sexism toward Hillary all this time (remember the comparison to David Duke, for crying out loud?) I might have been able to give him the benefit of the doubt that he did not realize how inappropriate his comment was, but at this point I simply can believe the absolute worst of him.  

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I'm a man (5.00 / 2) (#169)
by txpolitico67 on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 03:44:48 PM EST
and that infuriates me to no end.  ANY violence to ANY other human, especially male on female violence, is uncivilized and unacceptable.  For KO to even suggest this makes me sick to the core of my being.

Man we are devolving at light speed with guys like this having a tv show.  

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I agree (4.83 / 6) (#102)
by Just another person on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:18:30 PM EST
Maybe I over-reacted. But when I heard that, I physically cringed. It provided the image of a big man taking his girlfriend in the back to teach her a lesson for being a smartass.

KO probably didn't even think of it that way. It was more likely a hyperbole for him. But really, when you're speaking as a public figure, you need to be careful of your language and the images it brings up. Like racism - a lot of the times we don't mean to be racist, but the words come out and they trigger negative reactions. We decry such words. Why  don't we do that when the language is such that it makes a woman feel demeaned or threatened?

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Check out his facial expression as he says it (5.00 / 1) (#172)
by andrys on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 04:18:17 PM EST
That shows it was not a benign thought.  It's a wish and just fantasy, but from a 'news' man it was incredibly ugly, but that's what he's become.  Fineman's wanting to take her out as fast as possible (expressed on a few shows) was just as distressing.  The woman is virtually tied with Obama when one counts the humans who went to vote for her -- there's a delegate count and a popular vote count and both are worth considering and balancing.

  But this display by them was sick and there's no way around that.  They wouldn't have done that if this close race happened between two men.  I think they feel a woman should not think she's entitled to a position "over" us all.

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i agree (4.33 / 3) (#107)
by proudliberaldem on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:24:10 PM EST
i cringed too. i'm willing to believe that keith didn't think through the implications of what he was saying. but that's the problem.

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Keith Would Definitely Think Through The (none / 0) (#155)
by MO Blue on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 02:48:26 PM EST
implications of calling Obama boy in any context now wouldn't he.

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Fineman took it in his stride. (none / 0) (#109)
by Salo on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:27:35 PM EST
Howard: "why didn't I think of that apt scenario, Keith my man, that's how she should have been disposed of originally!  Go into her cell and place a revolver on the side table and tell her to take one for the team to preserve her honour."

Keith: "haw haw haw."

Howard: "just like Rohm."

Keith: "Like the emperors indeed."

howard: "No, like Ernst Rohm on the night of the long knives."

Keith: "who?"

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Fineman said the same thing on Charlie Rose (5.00 / 1) (#143)
by Josey on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 02:18:48 PM EST
It was very disgusting!!


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I'd have loved to see what (none / 0) (#104)
by Salo on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:22:07 PM EST
Finemans expression was as he said

"YES, exactly."

I'd have looked on slackjawed, flicked my eyes left and made a grimacing expression.

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