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What kind of Dem strategy is relying on (5.00 / 4) (#4)
by Joan in VA on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:02:26 PM EST
Independents rather than Dems? That sounds very cavalier to me. Almost insulting. Of course, the factual error is just stupid.

America for Obama (5.00 / 1) (#6)
by andgarden on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:02:47 PM EST
has a nice ring, doesn't it?

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You mean like (5.00 / 3) (#8)
by madamab on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:04:00 PM EST
Connecticut for Lieberman?

[shudder]

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shhhhhhh (5.00 / 2) (#16)
by andgarden on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:06:18 PM EST
we're on board for the non-partisan unity now!

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My pony (5.00 / 1) (#19)
by madamab on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:07:45 PM EST
is a unicorn!

/swigs more Kool-Aid

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Or Obamerica 2008! (none / 0) (#22)
by Joan in VA on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:09:38 PM EST


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The factual error (5.00 / 5) (#14)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:05:46 PM EST
is their whole argument.

In Ohio, Obama has no advantage with Independents and Republicans.

The House Dem Leadership argument is utterly ridiculous.

It is also a sign of their utter incompetence.

The entire article is shocking in its ignorance of the basics of politics. Nancy Pelosi is simply terrible and a menace.

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But I read he goes deep into Repubs (5.00 / 2) (#25)
by Joan in VA on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:12:14 PM EST
and Indies. So that's gotta be true. Doesn't it?

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Did you read my post? (none / 0) (#29)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:16:25 PM EST
In Ohio he did not.

Please, I do not mean to be rude, but read the post.

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I think she was being sarcastic (?) (5.00 / 1) (#38)
by NOBAMA08 on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:22:23 PM EST


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Then stupid on me (5.00 / 1) (#43)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:25:50 PM EST


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It's hard to tell these days. (none / 0) (#63)
by Salo on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:35:46 PM EST
I've heard plenty of stuff over the last few days about Obama that may have been true January 3rd, but can't be taken seriously any longer about his cross over appeal.

He's dead meat for moderates and centrists now.

So you are forgiven for missing the snark.

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That's what I thought. :-) (none / 0) (#39)
by madamab on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:22:49 PM EST


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it goes to demographics again (5.00 / 1) (#41)
by kimsaw on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:24:12 PM EST
and the scary thing is that the leadership (I use the word lightly) can't comprehend that they are in trouble. Pelosi anti-unity comments say more about her inability to lead. The Dems are in serious trouble from this independents' point of view.

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Yup. (none / 0) (#18)
by madamab on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:07:07 PM EST
Thanks to her incompetence and meddling in the primary, I have no doubt that it will be many years before another woman Speaker is elected.

Way to blow it, Pelosi. You idiot.

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It gets worse (none / 0) (#87)
by cal1942 on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 06:58:16 PM EST
There is some real basic ignorance in the leadership and Pelosi is terribly clumsy.

She was going to appoint Alcee Hastings chairman of the House Select Intel Cmte.  When reminded of the problems of putting Hastings in such a high profile position. Jeez. She appointed Sylvester Reyes the 3rd ranking member of the cmte.

Reyes (all the while serving on the Intel cmte.) didn't know that al Qaeda was Sunni and had no idea whether Hezbollah was Shia or Sunni (Then there's McCain).

The stupidity isn't confined to Democrats by any means but at least Republicans don't go out of their way to shoot themselves in the foot at election time.

Somebody ought to give these people a primer providing fundamental info about current events.

Very embarrassing and indicative of the people at the top.

It's time for a house cleaning (no pun intended) and this may be a clue about the nature of the internal war raging in the Democratic Party. Pretty obvious it's spilled over into the nomination process.

Oh to be a fly on the wall.

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The Party Elite Are Taking Democrats for Granted (5.00 / 5) (#37)
by NOBAMA08 on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:20:25 PM EST
They take us for granted because they think Democrats will fall in line while Independents will not. The Democrats are Clinton supporters - the poor, the women, the "trash" of our party who have no choice but to comply with their demands. Their reasoning is very flawed. Democrats continue to lose because they've left behind those people they take for granted - Republican women and white working class voters who don't relate to elitist snobs like Kerry and now Obama. This time around Democrats will not fall in line. I knew this the minute I decided I would not vote for Obama back in January. Women, working class whites, Hispanics, Asians, Catholics, and many Jews will not support Obama for a variety of reasons. I don't know if some of them are starting to realize this or if they are all still ignorant of what is going on in the real world.

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It's better then (5.00 / 1) (#49)
by hookfan on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:32:40 PM EST
to be an independant rather than a white lower income working class Democrat. At least they will put out something to woo your vote. If this keeps up, there will be a mass exodus from the Democratic Party.

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Thank you (5.00 / 3) (#56)
by Jane in CA on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:51:20 PM EST
thank you, thank you for saying this. The party leadership just doesn't seem to understand that they are alienating the democratic core -- the people who actually vote in midterms as well as primaries and GEs -- with their refusal to acknowledge that, in state after state after state, the democratic base has rejected the Obama candidacy.  According to Slate, Obama has won the dem base vote in only two states.  Not the kind of support you want if you are trying to capture the presidency as a democrat.


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Does that mean that (none / 0) (#58)
by 0 politico on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:58:46 PM EST
if we turn in our party allegiance and register as an independent, they may start to listen?

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that's what I'm hoping for (none / 0) (#64)
by kempis on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 01:44:06 PM EST
...as I turn in my Democratic Party badge after 32 years. (The decoder ring doesn't seem to work anymore.)

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