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The problem is the GE (none / 0) (#150)
by IndiDemGirl on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 10:34:26 AM EST
and winning it no matter who is the nominee. I am a Democrat and have always voted that way. I've been voting Dem for 20 years now.

My grandfather was a Dem mayor in Michigan; I just ate breakfast in the kitchen I remodeled thanks to the great economy during Bill Clinton's presidency and when people comment on the kitchen I always say "thanks to Bill Clinton"; I worked in 06 to help Dems get back the House -- Indiana picked up 3 seats; I've commented on this site and have not said anything bad about Hillary, I said I'd vote for her if she were the nominee; I said it was immature to say what many on this site have said about never voting for Obama.

But now even I am having those feelings that it seems unfair, that I'm done with the Clintons, that I just won't vote for her.  I just don't know how either candidate can achieve the unity needed.

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I think you mistaking this site for others... (5.00 / 2) (#211)
by Maria Garcia on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 11:21:44 AM EST
....most of the posters here have not said that they would never vote for Obama. At worst I have said that he will have to earn my vote now as his campaign has taken it for granted and done many things that I don't agree with. But I'm no hypocrite so if you don't feel like you can vote for Hillary Clinton then I would say to you, don't do it. And I'll reserve the same right for myself with regards to Obama, though I never said that I wouldn't vote for him.

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sorry dear (4.66 / 3) (#196)
by angie on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 11:07:42 AM EST
I'm a Democrat too & have voted that way for 21 years -- and it is not democratic to disenfranchise FL & MI no matter what the "rules" are -- such "rules" are per se null imo. I advocated for re-votes in both FL & MI -- Obama stopped them.   And he wants to be the nominee for the Democrats? Not by my definition -- being a Democrat means counting all the votes whether that helps your candidate or not.

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It's possible that they can't. (none / 0) (#170)
by sweetthings on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 10:50:42 AM EST
If support really is hardening on both sides, as polls suggest, then all this song and dance is ultimately for nothing. Obama and Clinton are merely competing for the privilege of losing to McCain. Obama can't win without Clinton's supporters, but Clinton can't win without his.

In which case, we need to start thinking about our nominee in a longer term. Just because we're hosed in '08 no matter who we run with doesn't mean our nominee doesn't matter. It just means electibility isn't as important as legacy.

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