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Courage? (5.00 / 7) (#49)
by BRockNYLA on Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 06:25:50 PM EST
I am a Black person who is staunchly for Hillary. I don't think it is courageous to vote my beliefs, but it does get heated at times.  Politics is pretty much off the list of topics with my family at this point.  However, I am actively engaged in a list server discussion with the Black alumni of my very white, elitist NE college.  Let's just say it has been interesting.  The passions are definitely running high, but most of the discussion is respectful.  On most days I am the only Hillary supporter participating.  Only twice has someone dared question my "Blackness" for supporting Hillary.  Recently one person tried that old Obama trick of calling the Clinton campaign out on "racial tactics".  Those charges will never stand as long as I'm a part of the discussion.

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thank you, brocknyla. (5.00 / 0) (#112)
by kangeroo on Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 11:39:48 PM EST
i'm grateful to you and every single AA person who's been willing to stick up for hillary in this election--often against the worst kind of treatment.  my heart is full for you.  thank you.

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Do you think (none / 0) (#63)
by tnjen on Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 06:58:07 PM EST
...that your experience is any different because you're talking in highly educated circles? Most of the confrontational stuff I've heard about regardless of race has come from workplaces and joe average on the street deciding to yell at people.

Just as an aside, I always think it takes courage to stand by your convictions when you're outnumbered so I think you may not be giving yourself enough credit. Standing up comes more naturally to some people but it's still something to praised and admired when there's an easier way out.


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Perhaps (5.00 / 1) (#79)
by BRockNYLA on Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 07:43:25 PM EST
I'm not sure if it is a class thing.  I have a Hillary logo on my iPhone.  Inevitably someone on the subway will notice.  Most of the time they just look at me and smile.  The guys in the mailroom at my office building that I am friendly with are all pro-Obama, but give Hillary "props" for sticking it out and "kicking his a**" in OH and TX.  

The consistent problem I am aware of is the fact that most all these people (from my fellow alums to the mailroom guys) are convinced that Obama's lead in the number of states won and the pledged delegates mean he should be the nominee.  Namely, if Hillary wins they will all think it was stolen.

So, let's hope she wins the popular vote!  Better yet, let's work extra hard to make sure she wins the popular vote!  

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definitely (5.00 / 0) (#97)
by tnjen on Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 08:57:14 PM EST
She definitely needs the popular vote and I think she'll get it. PR is going to deliver, IMHO (knock on wood) -- folks on the island take politics seriously and I think the turnout is going to be big there. And KY, may not give up the delegates but she's definitely looking at a popular vote boost there. I also think that if we target Eastern N.C. we may be able to do a lot of surprise good there by just upping the turnout. IN is also open to huge dividends with some work. So yeah, with some investment and shoe leather I think the popular vote is within reach.

I'm glad to hear your co-workers are giving credit where it's due. Unfortunately, the folks in my peer group are so pro-Obama that I rarely hear anything nice. I was going crazy until I found this site and a few others.

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