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I don't watch any of it anymore (5.00 / 4) (#13)
by Dr Molly on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 07:22:03 PM EST
I tried to switch from Olbermann to CNN, but it was only marginally less horrible so I stopped watching all cable TV news. It's so bizarre what passes for political analysis anymore. Olbermann used to try to be above the fray but he's now just the lefty mirror-image of Fox News - irrational, dishonest, biased, etc.

I also don't read many blogs anymore. Last time I went to DKos, I ended up reading some comments that said that it would be OK to sacrifice older democrats and have them leave the party because new young ones would then take their place. This was about the anger of some democrats re: the FL/MI voters. I just can't read that naive and immature stuff anymore.

I haven't been to DK for many weeks now (5.00 / 1) (#23)
by litigatormom on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 07:25:55 PM EST
I've finally stopped even checking the frontpage. One the last diaries I read made exactly the same point, although in a broader context than just FLA/MI.  Pissing off Clinton voters was okay because of the independents and Republicans and young people flocking to Obama.

Well, it's nice to bring in new voters.  But you know what they say about a bird in the bush....

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My husband who has stayed with (none / 0) (#92)
by hairspray on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 07:54:28 PM EST
Olberman says that the governor of PA switched from Hillary to Obama because his daughter told him to.  My husband was impressed. I am not.  What is going on?  Is it 1970's again?

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Governor of PA? (5.00 / 1) (#133)
by stillife on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 08:12:15 PM EST
Rendell is the governor.  Maybe he was referring to Casey?  If so, that's probably b.s. b/c Casey is a longtime Clinton hater.

I'm normally a laid-back mom, but I unashamedly admit that I do try to influence my children's voting decisions, especially my son, who is a moderate Independent/Dem type who lives in PA, where his vote really counts.  I persuaded him to vote for Kerry in 2006 and he'll be voting for Hillary this month.

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Governor Rendell (5.00 / 1) (#152)
by facta non verba on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 08:20:08 PM EST
has not switched his support. I think your husband has his Pennsylvania politicians mixed up. The junior Senator from PA, Bob Casey, recently endorsed Obama (but never endorsed Clinton so not a switch) and his father was the erstwhile Governor of Pennsylvania in the 1990s.

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Ed Rendell?? (none / 0) (#120)
by AmyinSC on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 08:06:07 PM EST
If he switched to Obama, that is sure news to me.  Are you sure abt this??  He has been stumping with Clinton all over PA!

This would NOT be the first time Olbermann has lied abt Clinton, btw.  He claimed that HER campaign had met with the Canadians on NAFTA, not Obama, and there was another whopper around the same time (videos proving a point - not watching KO!).

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Ed doesn't have a daughter (none / 0) (#130)
by andgarden on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 08:10:19 PM EST
They might be talking about Bob Casey, but he's Senator, not Governor, and he never supported Hillary.

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That Would Make Sense... (none / 0) (#138)
by AmyinSC on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 08:14:06 PM EST
It just didn't make any sense for it to be Rendell.  And from all I have seen, NO ONE was surprised when Casey endorsed Obama...

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The early 90s stuff (none / 0) (#151)
by andgarden on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 08:19:46 PM EST
is water under the bridge. Frankly, I think Dick Durbin talked Casey into the endorsement.

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There was an article on that. (none / 0) (#215)
by Faust on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 09:02:56 PM EST
There was a Canadian publication which quoted people saying that Brodie had indeed recieved calls from the Clinton camp saying not to worry about NAFTA and to take the debate "with a grain of salt."

It's very thin but it was a legitimate story in the sense that it came from a Canadian publication.

I'm pretty sure that Brodie subsequently denied that along with everything else.

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I think my husband made (none / 0) (#235)
by hairspray on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 11:10:28 PM EST
a mistake.  It must have been the governor of Kansas and isn't that old news?

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Not Rendell (none / 0) (#132)
by litigatormom on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 08:12:11 PM EST
Senator Bob Casey (who used to be the governor) endorsed Obama.  He's an anti-abortion guy who is pretty conservative on other issues as well.

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Closer (none / 0) (#146)
by andgarden on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 08:18:12 PM EST
Casey Sr was governor, Casey Jr. is the Senator. I'm biased when I discuss the younger one, but really he's just a standard issue blue dog.

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I didn't know there were two of them (5.00 / 1) (#157)
by litigatormom on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 08:22:37 PM EST
Kind of like how Tom Kean Jr. was hoping that New Jersey voters would think he was his father.

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It's a family doubling as a political machine (none / 0) (#164)
by andgarden on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 08:27:18 PM EST
but the name is the asset.

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Yep. Everyone can be replaced. (none / 0) (#45)
by jes on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 07:35:15 PM EST
I've been following a bit a anti-choice Dem who wants an Obama/Casey ticket and thinks it would be good to replace the aging feminists with some socially conservative Republicians.

I'm not sure this is my party if these are the types that are leading the charge and crashing the gates.

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