As to the rest, there's so much wrong it's hard to know where to begin, but one place is with the fundamental misunderstanding of who pays for health care costs. It isn't just the public and private sectors - if it were, the problem would be smaller.
The problem fundamentally is that health care is increasingly paid for by private individuals and the number of people who can fund, say, a coronary bypass out of income and/or savings is vanishingly small.
Just like on the MI/FL votes where people are concerned about the candidates, and don't care a whit about the voters, your post cares about punishing big insurance companies, and shows little interest in actually providing health care to indviduals and families who desperately need it - as long as the insurers suffer, it's all good.
And please don't tell me again that we agree 100%. [ Parent ]
Yes, there is a great success story in Medicare, but Medicare claims have been administered by private companies, not the government, from the outset. There's a lot of crossover he didn't talk about.
There is the whole concept of fee-for-service. Doctors only get paid if a service is provided, so the incentive is provide services. Doctors aren't evil, but there are documented instances of unnecessary levels of service being provided (the US used to have the highest number of cesarians in the world, for example, but prenatal care was at an all time low).
There is a problem with cost-shifting, but here's the thing: some of that is reduce payments for medical services the public insists on, but aren't either medical or necessary. Not to over play the hand, but these do exist. Some of it is to protect profits, but necessarily for the insurance company. It protects drug companies, and the employers who pay the premium. And hospital corporations who are increasingly pressured to show a bottom line.
And then there's the whole back end thing. Going to an ER because you don't have a doctor, either because you don't have insurance, or you just don't have a doctor.
The insurance industry isn't a saintly institution by any means, but neither are they the complete demon in all this. The medical care inflation index has a lot more factors contributing than most people understand.
The thing is though, the industry is used to making reforms when those are passed on a state level (the only current effective regulator) and enforced. They have to be told, and they have to receive consequences.
But expanding the pool of insured persons will reduce the costs. It eliminates actuarial risk, a phenom in insurance when the people most at risk are the main ones who buy coverage because they know they need it, while the ones who will need it down the road don't buy until it's clear that they do.
The issue isn't simple. [ Parent ]
And, you are correct lots of health care providers rely on the fee for service Medicare payments to compensate for the deals they cut with the private insurance companies. In my opinion this is an example of what I call private insurers indirectly increasing their income because of the government programs.
I loved your comments about adjusting payments for particular services, as is practiced most notably in Japan. If you're proposing an overhaul to match Japan, you've got my attention, but you need the underpinnings too, and fine tuning is needed. Sort of related to managing what procedures are done; Duke has shown that sometimes (depending the treatment facility) care for some medical situations can cost half as much because of less expensive, fewer, and different procedures, but the patients have better results.
To be sure large pools are good, but if something costs $11,500 (fam av 06) and you have no extra money, no amount of mandates will turn nothing into $11,500. As I noted, BO and HRC have the same subsidy strategies, and they will leave out some so called middle class people. Yes, BO mandates kids, fortunately the increased SCHIP, his new subsidies, and putting people into federal programs for which they have always been eligible takes care of most kids.
Again, your comments about price controls as done in Japan was brilliant. Your acknowledgment that talking price controls, in any way, is problematic in the US is 110% brilliant. When ever Krugman et. al. talk about other countries they neglect two not unrelated facts. 1) our private insurers live off the government programs in fundamentally different ways than do private companies in other countries, and 2) the other systems presented as models have strong price controls in one way or another, which is a (perhaps the) critical difference. [ Parent ]
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