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PA Debate: The Morning After | 215 comments (215 topical)
Right. Obama could read the phone (5.00 / 4) (#64)
by MarkL on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 07:59:01 AM EST
book and people would be mesmerized.
He gets away with a lot of muddled-headed answers because people aren't really listening to what he says.

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Cultural differences? (5.00 / 2) (#70)
by Fabian on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 08:06:02 AM EST
I hear that preacher-style oratory and I immediately become suspicious, not comforted.  Perhaps you have to be raised to associate that style of speaking with warm fuzzies and not someone who wants you to feel more and think less.

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Plus, the religious cadence is another (5.00 / 5) (#146)
by derridog on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:18:53 AM EST
example of Obama's fraudulence. He wasn't raised in the south. He is a very good mimic. Here he's miming MLK. Most of the things he says on the campaign trail, not to mention his policies, are lifted from others. He doesn't have a core set of beliefs, as far as I can tell from watching his actions and how he ducks and weaves when cornered to try to spin whatever he says in such a way as to placate his listeners.   Although Hillary sometimes does this too, i believe that she does have a core set of beliefs that she has been acting on   for the last 30+/- years.   I believe that because I'm a little older than her and have been watching her for the last 30 years.  Obama is just in this for himself. That's really the only subject he's comfortable with.

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Is it any surprise he identifies (none / 0) (#160)
by Fabian on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:32:49 AM EST
so strongly with black preachers?  If Obama wasn't a politician, it's easy enough to see him as a minister.

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You only think that because he speaks like a (none / 0) (#204)
by derridog on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:15:39 AM EST
preacher and he only does that because he is trying to associate himself with religion and with the Civil Rights movement and MLK, so he can get votes.

This doesn't make him likely to take up a religious vocation. The man is into power, not self-effacement and hard work on behalf of God and the poor and downtrodden.

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Donnie McClurkin? (none / 0) (#211)
by Fabian on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 10:28:44 AM EST
Being an entertainer is not an easy way to make a living.  Being a preacher with his own flock and his own church - that's stability and at least some power.

Look at the mega churches.  Look at the Right Wing Power of God machines.  There's power in it.  There's money in it.  No doubt.

The truth is that there is more potential in politics than religion.  You are right there.

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Speaking Style (5.00 / 2) (#159)
by cal1942 on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:29:52 AM EST
Interesting you should bring that up.  I was talking to a neighbor a few days ago, a good lifelong Democrat.  He told me that he and his wife watched an Obama speech and felt uneasy and couldn't quite figure out the style.  When I said preacher he shouted "that's it, a preacher."

Now these people attend services (Roman Catholic) weekly without fail. It's not that they're offended by religion, quite the contrary, it's that a politician using that style is completely out of place and in large measure insulting. It sounds more like a scam than a civic declaration.

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Here is the problem with that thruth, Jeralyn (none / 0) (#130)
by Salt on Thu Apr 17, 2008 at 09:05:09 AM EST
called it Obama appeared weak to many of us.  To be mesmerized by the predators or Us speech, only I Obama can change your feelings of helpless to wondrous hopefulness, you would need to start with a shared belief system a cultural pathology of dependence that many women have long ago rejected instead choosing self-efficacy a belief that our own contributions influence the events that affect their lives.

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