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Paul Rosenberg just posted this from Great (none / 0) (#26)
by bruhrabbit3 on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 12:42:45 PM EST
American Hypocrite, and it succintly describes my problem with you and others here. The core issue is that you would leave Democrats not being able to say anything about anything. If you think Clinton , who was originally attacked in the 90s in this manner, will be immune or safe- I think that's a mistake. If you think other Democrats down ticket won't be attacked in this manner. that's a mistake. I think you get this. I think you take the wrong lesson from it. Namely, to be safe, say nothing that challenges. Anyway, this was about Edwards haircut- remember that? Here's the process:

"STEP 1 A new Drudge-dependent gossip (Ben Smith) at a new substance-free political rag (The Politico)--or some rightwing talkradio host (Rush Limbaugh) or some credibility-bereft right-wing blogger (a Michelle Malkin)--seizes on some petty, manufactured incident to fuel clichéd caricatures of Democratic candidates.

STEP 2 The old right-wing gossip (Drudge) employs his old, substance-free political rag (The Drudge Report) to amplify the inane caricatures.

STEP 3 National media outlets, such as AP and CNN, whose world is ruled by Drudge, take note of and begin "analyzing" the "political implications" of the gossip, thus transforming it into "news stories."

STEP 4 Our Serious Beltway Journalists and Political Analysts--in the Haircut Case, Tim Russert and Brian Williams and Adam Nagourney and the very serious and smart Substantive Journalists at The New Republic--mindlessly repeat all of it, thereby solidifying it as transparent conventional wisdom.

STEP 5 When called upon to justify their endless reporting over such petty and pointless Drudge-generated matters, these "journalists" cite Steps 1-4 as "proof" that "the people" care about these stories, even though the "evidence" consists of nothing other than their own flocklike chirping"

My problem here with Clinton, who I would be happy to have as our nominee, is that she did the exact same thing here for her own political gain. Obama has been guilty of this in the past. Now, to me, this is a time when Clinton has done it. Its unacceptable from either of them.

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Clinton WILL hurt down ticket Dems? (none / 0) (#29)
by OxyCon on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 01:12:06 PM EST
"If you think Clinton , who was originally attacked in the 90s in this manner, will be immune or safe- I think that's a mistake. If you think other Democrats down ticket won't be attacked in this manner. that's a mistake."

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You mean like this?

NRCC Continues to Hammer Democratic Congressmen with Obama Remarks
April 12, 2008 1:00 PM

Focusing this time on Rep. Jason Altmire, D-Pa., the National Republican Congressional Committee is trying to damn local Democrats with the comments about small towns made by Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.
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"Americans don't want liberal politicians like Barack Obama who believe Washington is a substitute for faith, personal responsibility and belief that the Constitution guarantees our freedoms.
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UPDATE: The NRCC says it's going to send out similar news releases about Democratic Reps. Nancy Boyda and Dennis Moore of Kansas, Bruce Braley of Iowa, Joe Courtney of Connecticut, Lincoln Davis of Tennessee, Joe Donnelly, Baron Hill and Brad Ellsworth of Indiana, Gabrielle Giffords and Harry Mitchell of Arizona, Ron Klein of Florida, Nick Lampson and Ciro Rodriguez of Texas, Rick Larsen of Washington, Tim Mahoney of Florida, Jim Marshall of Georgia, Jim Matheson of Utah, Jerry McNerney of California, John Salazar of Colorado, Heath Shuler of North Carolina, Zack Space and Charlie Wilson of Ohio, Bart Stupak of Michigan, and John Yarmuth of Kentucky.

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thats not what I wrote (none / 0) (#48)
by bruhrabbit3 on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 04:35:44 PM EST


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well (none / 0) (#38)
by ColumbiaDuck on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 02:25:17 PM EST
It was very helpful of obama, the, to just confirm the stereotype.  The RW didn't even have to make something up!

I appreciate him making all democrats look bad.  "This is what they really think of americans behind closed doors."

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Ridiculous (none / 0) (#39)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 02:29:25 PM EST
Honestly, if that is what you think, then you really are not bright about politics.

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basically your arguement is that I am ridiculous (none / 0) (#47)
by bruhrabbit3 on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 04:35:20 PM EST
got it.

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btd's point is about the hypocrisy. (5.00 / 1) (#50)
by kangeroo on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 05:38:40 PM EST
why have obama's supporters never cared thus far when obama and his supporters do much worse things in the same vein to hillary, and with unbounded enthusiasm?  your silence thus far when he's pulled this crap daily--or what's more, your having piling gleefully onto the bandwagon--speaks for itself.  oh, but when hillary is ostensibly the one doing it (surprise, surprise!) you're suddenly soooo outraged and indignant.  um, and you expect us to listen?  you have no credibility.

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