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Did the Clintons use the words "cling" (5.00 / 3) (#3)
by Practically Lactating on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 10:24:05 AM EST
or "bitter?" Did they condescend? It doesn't sound like it after reading the passage.

Thankfully, I didn't fall off the turnip truck either, so I know that there are things like tone and context that make all the difference.

Yeah, your point (5.00 / 3) (#95)
by frankly0 on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 11:27:20 AM EST
is exactly on target, and shows the stupid bias of Skocpol, whose hatred of all things Clinton is obviously seeking any harbor it can find.

While she says, breathtakingly, that, somehow, the "clinical" observations of the Clintons and/or their aides were less "human" than Obama's, to any objective person it's obviously more acceptable to talk about such delicate issues in as "clinical" and  emotionally neutral, and objective terms as possible. Why? Because one wishes above all not to be passing judgment on the people involved, or even appearing to be doing so, precisely because it would seem unfair and unsympathetic to do so.

And describing Obama's "clinging" sentence as a more "humanly sympathetic" approach is so off-target than it's hard even to read without gagging.

Yeah, the sentence is more "human" alright, in the sense that it is filled to the brim with a sneering, morally judgmental tone toward those voters -- the precise thing that any "clinical" approach is designed to avoid. He is essentially calling them deluded fools who turn to morally suspect values in their bitterness. Yeah, that what a "human" might say -- a "human" who is so infected with his sense of moral superiority that he can't help but come out with condescending remarks about the little people who refuse to acknowledge his wonderfulness.

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There is a huge difference between (5.00 / 1) (#102)
by ruffian on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 11:35:00 AM EST
analyzing the behavior and insulting the people that display that behavior.  Maybe they don't teach that at Harvard. Glad I went to college in a small town in the midwest.

When is the word 'bitter' ever used to compliment, or at the very least show compassion for someone?

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And she is a sociologist, of all things (5.00 / 1) (#117)
by Practically Lactating on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 12:17:30 PM EST
Are these the types of words she would use when writing about her subjects? I certainly hope not.

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