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The Blogosphere Has Its Comeuppance? Boehlert's Revenge | 219 comments (219 topical)
why are you making stuff up (5.00 / 1) (#35)
by TeresaInPa on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 07:32:55 PM EST
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Making Stuff Up? (none / 0) (#43)
by squeaky on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 07:42:51 PM EST
What? Not sure what you are talking about. I have made nothing up.

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What you're making (5.00 / 3) (#68)
by rooge04 on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 08:17:08 PM EST
 up is that all working-class Whites vote for Republicans. That is simply not true.  They are a large portion of the Dem base. Always have been.  You cannot win an election without them.

And to clarify, 1994 was NOT a referendum on Bill. It was the culmination of 30 years of Republicans building their machine, redrawing districts to their advantage and getting their base engaged again after 30 years in the wilderness following Goldwater.  It was NOT Clinton voters that turned on him. It was the Republican machine rising after 30 years quiet.  That is a falsehood perpetuated by Republicans and apparently, now, Obama supporters.

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What You Are Making Up (none / 0) (#70)
by squeaky on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 08:21:23 PM EST
I never said anything like this:

all working-class Whites vote for Republicans.

Such obvious lying does not help your argument.

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Your implication is that (5.00 / 1) (#72)
by rooge04 on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 08:23:53 PM EST
those dumb working class white people vote against their own best interests.  You are implying that that is what the majority of them do. That is simply not the truth.  They are the largest part of the Democratic base. Tricky I know...when you want to look down on them.

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Yes But (none / 0) (#78)
by squeaky on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 08:28:08 PM EST
Not only working class, more than half the country voted for GWB twice. At best these voters were easily manipulated, by a swaggering fake cowboy act. Call it whatever you want, I am sure that some smart people were fooled as well as idiots.

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Typical (1.00 / 0) (#107)
by jimakaPPJ on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 09:46:41 PM EST
Everyone is an idiot except Squeaky and those who agree with him.

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Uhhh (5.00 / 0) (#122)
by squeaky on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 10:19:08 PM EST
Your Pal Bush is at the lowest rating of any president, ever. 81% of americans believe that they the country is on the wrong track.

I am not surprised to see that you are still hanging with the 19%ers, who still believe that Bush can do no wrong.

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PPJ doesn't believe that there can be rational (none / 0) (#178)
by Dark Avenger on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 12:13:13 AM EST
criticism of his Fearless Leader:

If you want to deny the news reports, and disbelieve Bush, then there is no argument that can change your mind.

Some call this BDS, I believe Bush Haters At Work - BHAW - is more accurate.

And BHAW are those who don't agree with the wisdom that PPJ has seen fit to dispense to us on irregular occasions.

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Right Track/Wrong Track (none / 0) (#187)
by cal1942 on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 12:33:20 AM EST
is not the same as Approve/Disapprove.

People can hold the belief that the nation is on the wrong track but still approve of the sitting President. It depends on who you want to blame for the wrong track. Still other people simply don't make the connection between President and the direction of the nation.

Approval ratings were lower than Bush's at least at some point for Truman and Nixon. Truman had even lower ratings than Nixon during some of 1952 and I believe he may have had even lower ratings just after he canned MacArthur.  I'm a living witness to the MacArthur business.  You would not have believed the fury.  Even my father, a Democrat to the deepest level of his soul, was angry.

The distinction Bush has is the long stretch that his approval ratings have been below 40%.


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What! (none / 0) (#182)
by cal1942 on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 12:17:33 AM EST
"Not only working class, more than half the country voted for GWB twice."

No.  In 2000 Gore won by more than a half-million votes.

I remember a few of the demographics from 2000 and if my memory is correct, Gore won 60% of union households in 2000.


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Yes I Know (none / 0) (#185)
by squeaky on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 12:25:57 AM EST
I am talking about the ones that voted R and the ones in PA.

In the final election results from 2000, Bush won 55.5 percent of the vote in rural counties in the 17 states, while Gore captured 44.5 percent.

NPR

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I Exaggerated A Bit (none / 0) (#190)
by squeaky on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 12:45:36 AM EST
For the sake of PPJ aka Bushlicker, a regular TL Bush supporter.

The poll I was referring to is this:

The latest Gallup poll finds that President Bush's approval rating has fallen to 28 percent -- "a record low" for his administration. Bush's approval is "lower than that of any president since World War II, with the exceptions of Jimmy Carter (who had a low point of 28% in 1979), and Richard Nixon and Harry Truman, who suffered ratings in the low- to mid-20% range in the last years of their administrations."

think progress

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Oh, And (none / 0) (#192)
by squeaky on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 12:47:26 AM EST
PPJ belongs to the 19% who think that the country is doing just fine, and on the right track.

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classy! gotta remember that one :) (none / 0) (#90)
by Josey on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 08:48:09 PM EST
>>>They are the largest part of the Democratic base. Tricky I know...when you want to look down on them.


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Good commenter, out-of-line comment n/t (none / 0) (#82)
by rilkefan on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 08:31:55 PM EST


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you said this (none / 0) (#206)
by Fredster on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 03:23:36 AM EST
Why do you think that this demographic has been voting R against their economic interests? What else could he have been talking about?

so which demographic were you talking about?


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Working Class White Males (none / 0) (#222)
by squeaky on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 10:26:31 AM EST


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The Blogosphere Has Its Comeuppance? Boehlert's Revenge | 219 comments (219 topical)

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