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The Blogosphere Has Its Comeuppance? Boehlert's Revenge | 219 comments (219 topical)
Guess the bus ride was a real (5.00 / 2) (#28)
by BarnBabe on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 07:20:37 PM EST
eye opener. Days on a bus driving through Central Pennsylvania. I guess charm did not work this time.

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people know when they are being (5.00 / 4) (#34)
by TeresaInPa on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 07:30:06 PM EST
patronized no matter how charming the person is.

People prefer Clinton.  They see her as hard working, that is a BIG DEAL in this state. LOTS of older women in PA want a woman president and they want that person to be Hillary.  There is nothing wrong with that.  I will wring my hands about it when she is getting 86 percent of the women's vote...

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"Obama's bitter taste of own words" (5.00 / 1) (#89)
by Josey on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 08:44:06 PM EST
Baltimore Sun - http://tinyurl.com/5znf7s

Great article and comments by Vilsack.

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President Hillary you go girl! (5.00 / 2) (#96)
by BarnBabe on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 09:06:16 PM EST
We do know who is right for the President and it is not BHO. I know BHO did not get the kind of reception that he was looking for. And I live in a smaller town than you do. Basically he was calling us bias rednecks but trying so eloquently to answer the question of why he can not win over all the people in PA. My neighbor was in NY overnight and I asked her when she got back if she heard what BHO said. She said he saw it on TV this morning in her hotel and was flabbergasted.

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er (none / 0) (#38)
by squeaky on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 07:36:25 PM EST
Older women? Do you think that is who Obama was referring to? Religious anti immigrant, god fearing, working class gun toting mamas?

Don't think so.

Here is something from the other side:

Once, blue-collar males were the bedrock of Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal coalition. They became "Reagan Democrats," helping to propel Ronald Reagan into office in the 1980s. Bill Clinton won many of them back to the Democratic Party in 1992. Two years later they were "angry white males," resentful of affirmative action and the women's movement, who helped Republicans capture Congress.

WSJ via Protein Wisdom


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where did I say Obama was refering (none / 0) (#123)
by TeresaInPa on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 10:22:34 PM EST
to older women?

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OK (none / 0) (#134)
by squeaky on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 10:33:43 PM EST
I wasn't sure why you brought up older women. Seemed like a nonsequitur but now it is clear that you were just doing an OT plug for Clinton.

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we lost the south (none / 0) (#130)
by anna shane on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 10:30:51 PM EST
and some blue collar men over civil rights, our party went to the mat on that one and we lost a hunk of our previous demographic.  the only reason we have it back is that America isn't that racist anymore, especially younger people, males and females. We have a much more integrated, much more interested-in-diversity society and our party has always supported equal rights, and racial justice. Barack is a consequence of this shift, and it's great.  He's a 'professor' type-guy and he thinks he knows more than he does, so he'll probably always have some idea about something that will turn out to have little relation to reality and may make him look goofy and out of touch. this statement was very dismissive of the entire party base, so he needs to meet a larger variety of people so he can learn empathy and to mistrust his own possibly cherished opinions.  

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A Freedom Ride, (none / 0) (#101)
by mg7505 on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 09:22:00 PM EST
Obama-style. To go along with all the other false comparisons of BHO to Civil Rights leaders.

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The Blogosphere Has Its Comeuppance? Boehlert's Revenge | 219 comments (219 topical)

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