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Having seen what the last campaign upheaval (none / 0) (#110)
by Cream City on Thu Apr 10, 2008 at 07:45:59 PM EST
did, coming right before my state's primary -- Wisconsin -- I actually am one who is fine with not too much more upheaval in the Clinton campaign now.  Ease Penn out after Penn, as it were.  But not now.  The campaign never got it together for Wisconsin, and you may recall what happened. . . .

Btw, I'll say again, as I noted last week, that anyone who thinks that primary was a predictor of how Obama would do in the general election in Wisconsin ought to look at the loss by our AA state high court justice and the racist campaign against him.  And it worked here in the red red red county, Waukesha, that had the votes to put his woefully unprepared opponent onto our state high court.

Waukesha went big for Obama.  Uh huh.  Best evidence of the crossover games here, but it will go 99% for McCain in the general election -- and that could turn this state, the closest of all states in 2004, red.  I think the only hope of not losing Wisconsin is Clinton.

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Perhaps (none / 0) (#128)
by MKS on Thu Apr 10, 2008 at 08:04:32 PM EST
What about this poll?

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St. Norb's polls of Wisconsin can be good (5.00 / 1) (#170)
by Cream City on Thu Apr 10, 2008 at 08:43:04 PM EST
or not.  Unfortunately, not transparent.  So without knowing more about methdology, it's an iffy one.

See if we see a poll done by Holbrook at UWM.

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within the margin of error- (none / 0) (#158)
by kenosharick on Thu Apr 10, 2008 at 08:32:48 PM EST
and that is before the "swiftboaters" send $10-20m just in Wis. on rev. wright commercials painting Barck as anti-American. He will not win Wis.

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This argument is so lame (none / 0) (#186)
by Deadalus on Thu Apr 10, 2008 at 09:05:21 PM EST
Barack can't win because he's bi-racial.  That's what it boils down to.  Despite the fact that polls this far out historically are insignificant and totally inadequate in predicting elections.

Furthermore, macro-trends tend to determine elections and regardless of the mud (which gets slung every year, mind you, and will be slung at Hillary as well), the Republicans have the worst set of circumstances possible from a historical perspective.

And if you think Barack's amazing victory in Wisconsin was the result of cross-over meddling, you're nuts.  That margin was too wide for any Republican mischief to have pulled off.  

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Not so (none / 0) (#204)
by Virginian on Thu Apr 10, 2008 at 09:19:16 PM EST
the Republicans have the worst set of circumstances possible from a historical perspective.

They have a very real shot at winning

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Doubtful (none / 0) (#207)
by Deadalus on Thu Apr 10, 2008 at 09:22:10 PM EST
But Hillary doesn't do any better in head-to-heads at this point.  As  "electability" is the argument of the week from camp Hillary, I'm sure we'll hear plenty about it in the coming weeks.  

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