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I have largely stopped watching (5.00 / 4) (#62)
by Dave B on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 06:53:52 PM EST
Regarding Olbermann, I am so dissappointed.  The impression I get is that he believes that he owes his recent success to Daily Kos readers, and he is pandering to them.  If you watch DK, and then turn on Olbermann, it is obvious that he's taking all his cues from the site.  I'm convinced that he's doing his research there and parroting what they say on his show.

He's lost me, and he'll sadly never have a chance of winning me back.  Rather than fairness to Democrats, he had decided to peg his future on the Obama/Kos segment of the Democratic party.  Maybe he's right, but it seems to me that honesty is more important than ratings.  I hope that I've misjudged him.

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He's gone... (5.00 / 3) (#66)
by DudeE on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 06:58:59 PM EST
...into the Dennis Miller column.  A guy who used to be entertaining but, somewhere along the line, became so ideological and mean-spirited that he just got a bit scary...

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Yeah what the hell happend to Dennis Miller (none / 0) (#164)
by voterin2008 on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 03:19:34 AM EST
I used to love him and now my opinion is that he souled out.  Really disappointing!

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I'm sorry, but I just think this an overreaction. (none / 0) (#65)
by demps on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 06:58:32 PM EST
Would you be satisfied if he directed his vitriol towards Obama? That would be as detrimental.

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I think it was clear... (5.00 / 2) (#69)
by DudeE on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 07:03:47 PM EST
...when poster mentioned 'rather than be fair to Democrats...'

What you're doing is called 'begging the question'

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Fair enough, I guess my point is that this idea (none / 0) (#74)
by demps on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 07:06:44 PM EST
of equity is determined by our own biases. If we are pro-clinton, our sense of fairness differs greatly from the same if we are pro-obama. I favor obama, but in the GE I am voting democrat irregardless of who emerges

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Seems pretty objective... (5.00 / 3) (#80)
by DudeE on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 07:11:36 PM EST
...by any standard that Olbermann has focused the vast majority of his energy into attacking Clinton.  When he does a 20 minute "Special Comment" attacking Clinton for someone else's statement (Ferraro), it's pretty tough to argue he isn't showing bias.

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I would also be offended (5.00 / 3) (#93)
by Dave B on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 07:23:12 PM EST
If he went on 20 minute tirade against Obama, with anger intense enough to make his lower lip quiver, yes I would also be offended.  The special comment was what pushed me over the edge.  I had started watching Olbermann back when he first appeared on the scene.  I had high hopes for him, but alas, all hope is lost.

I was originally an Edwards supporter.  When he dropped out I was having a difficult time trying to decide which way to go.  First it was health care that swayed me toward Clinton.  I recently lost my 49 year old brother who essentially died because of a lack of health insurance.  Then Obama playing the race card sealed the deal.

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yeah, on that I completely agree, Olbermann (none / 0) (#85)
by demps on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 07:15:23 PM EST
is not objective as far as it regards the democratic contest. Is there someone out there in the MSM who you do consider objective? It seems everyone is entrenched on one side or the other

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Onus is on you; Find a pro-HRC shill as bad (5.00 / 3) (#109)
by Ellie on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 07:35:02 PM EST
... as Obamann is in the tank for Obama.

Wandering through the thread asking people to do your homework doesn't constitute an argument. It merely fogs the environment.

Obamann, and NBC generally, are in the tank for Obama. It's baldly evident. The anti HRC bias is baldly evident.

It doesn't "logically" follow that, like, So?, other networks are prolly for HRC and could you, like, show me.

Please.

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I was genuinely inquiring. I was not arguing. (none / 0) (#134)
by demps on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 09:22:12 PM EST
relax

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I find... (none / 0) (#91)
by DudeE on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 07:21:28 PM EST
...Stephanopoulos generally avoids any overt bias.  Likewise, Tom Brokaw.  They're out there.  Tweety tends to host the usual suspects - Andrea Mitchell, the editorial lady from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, etc.  All he has to do is say "Clinton" and his entire panel is rolling their eyes...

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I saw (none / 0) (#155)
by cal1942 on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 01:23:16 AM EST
Brian Williams on Letterman a few nights ago and had to leave the room before I threw something through the screen.  He had barely sat down when he launched into a diatribe demanding that Hillary quit the race.  He repeated Obama talking points like a stuck record. I didn't see the rest of his segment the first couple of minutes was too much.

I can't imagine Walter Cronkite doing anything like that.

Network news anchors once had a certain dignity, they were seldom seen in an entertainment venue.

We've succeeded in cheapening everything.

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Who other than Joe Scarborough and (none / 0) (#98)
by Maria Garcia on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 07:25:42 PM EST
..other Republicans are particularly fair or biased towards Hillary Clinton. I'm just asking cause I've missed them.

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I would prefer...personally... (none / 0) (#153)
by kredwyn on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 12:35:54 AM EST
that his show cover the news and information without  engaging in spin doctoring himself.

He is not a campaign operative. That's not his job.

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nope you are right (none / 0) (#183)
by coigue on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 06:47:03 PM EST
there is an exact synergy.

I've watched quite a few times where a story popped up on dKos, then was reported later on KO and nowhere else.

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