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Rendell said Fox New was "balanced" (2.33 / 3) (#13)
by AF on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 02:59:51 PM EST
Which is absolutely false.  Fox, as always, is a Republican hit machine skewering Dems in the most unfair and unbalanced way.

It's true they are balanced as between Hillary and Obama, but that's not what Rendell said.  He said they were "balanced" and other stations are not.  That's just wrong.  The fact that other stations are unbalanced does not make Fox balanced.

Rendell was clearly (5.00 / 2) (#18)
by Democratic Cat on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:02:31 PM EST
talking abobut the coverage of Clinton v. Obama without reference to the coverage of Dems v. Republicans more generally. That's why he said Fox hates both our candidates.

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He said it expressly (none / 0) (#23)
by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:04:12 PM EST
AF's comment is simply false. I believe it was delberately so as I had this conversation with AF yesterday. I detest seeing good commenters do this. And AF is a good commenter.

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Rendell clearly watches all of news networks. (5.00 / 1) (#29)
by andgarden on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:11:05 PM EST
You can tell from his Charlie Rose interview.

You were right yesterday when you said that the "just kidding" part wasn't true at all.

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Reading comprehension (none / 0) (#31)
by AF on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:12:08 PM EST
Nothing I said was false.

I am perfectly aware that Rendell's intention was to call out NBC. I read his comments and understand that his main point was to criticize NBC.  Nothing I have written contradicts this.

My problem is that in calling out NBC, Rendell said that Fox is balanced -- not comparatively balanced, but balanced -- in its coverage of the Dem primary.  That's not only untrue in my opinion, but unhelpful coming from a Dem in an election year.

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What horrible thing is going to happen (5.00 / 1) (#33)
by Democratic Cat on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:15:18 PM EST
because Rendell said Fox was balanced in that they hated both Democrats? Will all Dems say, 'oh, ok, I guess I can get my news from Fox now since the Governor of PA says they're "balanced."' Dems are not as stupid as you seem to think they are. I don't see this as hurtful at all.

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Nothing horrible is going to happen (none / 0) (#36)
by AF on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:16:48 PM EST
Which is why I'm not personally in a foul mood.

Sorry to annoy you BTD!

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I hate seeing good commenters (none / 0) (#41)
by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:18:36 PM EST
writing bad comments.

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To give credence to a Network that consistently (none / 0) (#132)
by demps on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 12:49:49 AM EST
peddles in filth, that has persistently enabled a corrupt administration, serving to disseminate its propaganda (I know, I am being a little grandiose, but the point remains), and that consistently erodes the public discourse, I am sorry, I like Rendell, and this really is no great mark against him, it is a trifle, but I won't attempt to justify it either.

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Not true. (5.00 / 1) (#35)
by madamab on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:16:22 PM EST
Rendell:

I think during this entire primary coverage, starting in Iowa and up to the present -- FOX has done the fairest job, and remained the most objective of all the cable networks. You hate both of our candidates. No, I'm only kidding. But you actually have done a very balanced job of reporting the news, and some of the other stations are just caught up with Senator Obama, who is a great guy, but Senator Obama can do no wrong, and Senator Clinton can do no right.

He is saying that Fox is more objective than other networks when covering the primaries, clearly referring to MSObama. He is not saying Fox is fair and balanced IN GENERAL.

Pretty obvious to those who aren't blinded by HDS. Which was exactly BTD's point.

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NBC's Chris Mathews and Olberman are (5.00 / 1) (#42)
by TalkRight on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:19:19 PM EST
the biggest losers.. I saw that have started to repeat countdown twice (8:00 PM and 10:00 PM) just to make for the lost users!!

They have lost respect, esp. Olberman !! I know he has been rumored to have been offered some position in Obama if he gets nomination.. but his coverage and narratives are so obvious as if his @ss is on the line not Obama's!!

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Your point (none / 0) (#34)
by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:16:11 PM EST
You just defeated it.

I apologize for doubting you believed what you wrote. But you are making no sense, imo of course.

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My take (none / 0) (#37)
by cmugirl on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:17:28 PM EST
is that it was a clear message to Democrats that we should not trust anything about the election coming from NBC/MSNBC. He was right, unfortunately, FOX has been the most balanced with regards to HRC vs. BO.

I don't expect FOX to love our candidate come the fall, and I realize that any rift they play up now is something they can use later, but it just proves how ridiculous NBC has become.

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You are being (none / 0) (#44)
by eric on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:20:23 PM EST
deliberately obtuse.  You KNOW that Rendell doesn't think that Fox is balanced generally.  Yet you continue to play this "gotcha" politics.  "Caught you saying Fox was balanced!  Gotcha!"

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He said it was balanced as to the Dem race (none / 0) (#17)
by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:02:00 PM EST
Your comment is a falsehood as to what Rendell said.

But act ignorant like Stickings and Benen if you like.

You know what he was talking about. Keith Olbermann for one.

I really hate disingenuous comments like yours. And I am in a foul mood. I will not be kind today.

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Another Hero!! on CNN (5.00 / 2) (#24)
by TalkRight on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:06:01 PM EST
I never used to like Lou Dobbs but he has called more often than anyone else and most recently yesterday, that media is strongly biased against Hillary..

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What's weird about him (5.00 / 2) (#30)
by madamab on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:12:01 PM EST
is that he sounds really reasonable on many issues. But get him talking about immigration, and oh boy, he is a crazy man!

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I agree that Lou dobbs has some serious (none / 0) (#122)
by hairspray on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 05:36:06 PM EST
issues with immigration and goes ballistic.  But I like that he has talked about the middle class being thrown overboard by the corporations.  On more than one occasion he has had a guest from a financial/investment group talk about how good it is to "outsource" jobs and Lou has taken after him, rolling his eyes and challenging the guest unmercifully.  He almost talks like Thom Hartmann sometimes on the loss of the middle class and how it is killing our democratic policies. For that I think he has an important message.  He could be more "fair and balanced" about the pros and cons of immigration. But he does differentiate legal from illegal.

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Lou Dobbs is a racist (none / 0) (#58)
by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:37:51 PM EST
imo.

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That's what I was trying to say (none / 0) (#66)
by madamab on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:42:24 PM EST
with my immigration remark.

He is very scared of people with a little extra melanin in their skin, methinks.

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His wife is Hispanic, FWIW (none / 0) (#90)
by wasabi on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:59:25 PM EST


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I am talking about his fairness to calling (none / 0) (#95)
by TalkRight on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 04:03:44 PM EST
the anti-hillary biasness...

every anchor has his own issues.. and I don't trust any one of them.. all of them have their own hidden agendas! I learned the hard way after I trusted Obmerman!!


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Correction to Dobbs quote (none / 0) (#128)
by FoxholeAtheist on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 09:13:18 PM EST
Moopsy, I'm no fan of Lou, but he didn't almost say "cotton-picking black leaders".

This is what he actually said as quoted by HuffPo from the video: Then Dobbs tripped over his words, as he declared, "Not a single one of these cotton...[stammering]...these just ridiculous politicians should be the moderator on the issue of race."

Lou Dobbs "Cotton" Video.

To be picky about it (har, har), Dobbs didn't even say the "picking" part of the cotton-picking phrase.

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Dobbs may be somewhat reasonable regarding Senator (none / 0) (#131)
by demps on Wed Apr 02, 2008 at 12:44:55 AM EST
Clinton, but he is still a bloviating demagogue, and  coming to one candidate's defense does not ennoble him.

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It is not balanced as to the Dem race (none / 0) (#26)
by AF on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:07:11 PM EST
For both Hillary and Obama, Fox gives the negatives more attention than they deserve and the positives less.  That is the very definition of unbalanced coverage.

 

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Now you want to act foolsih (none / 0) (#28)
by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:09:54 PM EST
Rendell said Fox was balanced as to Clinton and Obama - they hate both of them.

Rendell was clearly alluding to Fox, and Doocy knew that EXACTLY.

I told you I was in a foul mood. And you are making it worse.

No one was claiming Fox was fair to Dems. NO ONE.

Stop pretending someone was saying it. All you do is annoy me and look foolish.


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LOL (none / 0) (#61)
by Edgar08 on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 03:40:13 PM EST
the thing that is simply unbalanced can appear balanced IN CONTRAST to that which is vastly more UNbalanced.

Capeesh?


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