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I don't like (5.00 / 1) (#11)
by americanincanada on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 01:44:25 PM EST
either the Ohio or Texas accusations. This looks bad and makes Obama look a little desperate.

Do we know anything more?

I'm waiting for updates (none / 0) (#13)
by Jeralyn on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 01:46:17 PM EST
and will post them when I get them.

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well--for what it's worth (5.00 / 3) (#23)
by Kathy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 01:53:53 PM EST
I heard from two TX friends that they were offered those sign-in sheets as they were leaving the polling place, only to have them snatched back when they tried to declare for Clinton.  Don't worry--both friends reported this to the hotline the Clinton campaign put out.  My friends said he didn't look old enough to vote.  I would be hesitant to put this down as an overall campaign strategy and would more place the blame on an overzealous kid, or group of kids.

I wonder if a way around this is to confirm at the opening of the caucus that they only use sign-in sheets that are fresh out of the pack.  Each campaign would have to have someone there to verify this.

What a mess.

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the rules state (none / 0) (#31)
by wasabi on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 02:00:02 PM EST
You cannot put your name on the list any earlier than 15 minutes after the last person votes or 7:15 whichever is later.  Those lists gathered in the voting area should be tossed.  Hopefully an election official will get sent to the caucus site to oversee the process if they get enough people to complain.  Most people will probably be clueless about the rules though.

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More likely... (none / 0) (#157)
by TexasDame on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 03:25:40 PM EST
Election officials oversee the caucus lists; voters stand in line and wait. These are very official documents. Even officials are only issued one at a time and have to sign each one out. The caucus lists never leave the sight of an election official. When it's complete, it's put in a sealed envelope and then into a lock box. Also, all election officials were instructed to tell people to return 15 minutes after the voting ended.

BUT, you say someone was running around with an list encouraging people to sign on for Obama but leaving if they were going to sign Clinton's name? Whatever it was that your friends were asked to sign was obviously not an official ballot and wouldn't have been accepted. Why would Obama's people encourage that? I was at two Obama rallies in Austin; there was a lot of information available about the correct way to vote. Obama himself told people to vote early or vote the day of and then go to your polling place at 7:15.

Had your friends signed that list and neglected to return at 7:15, their caucus votes would have not counted. So who would've profited here?

Instead of letting your friends sign a bogus caucus sheet, these people left so that your friends could cast a real vote for Clinton?

Before spreading the gossip and innuendo like a Republican, can we think these things out?

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or aggressive (none / 0) (#96)
by Joike on Tue Mar 04, 2008 at 03:02:03 PM EST


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the truth about Obama observers in Ohio (none / 0) (#156)
by abuffl on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 08:57:24 AM EST
If you are talking about Obama observers in polling locations in Ohio,  there was absolutely nothing in this plan about challenging voters.  Quite the contrary, the purpose was to preserve the rights of voters by observing procedures without interfering.  We were to call in if it seemed that proper procedures were not being followed (for example, if a person presenting one of the less common but still acceptable forms of ID was asked to vote provisionally instead of on a regular ballot). Such protection of voter's rights was to extend to any and all voters, independent of party or candidate preference. I was trained to be one of these observers.  Please do not unnecessarily escalate divisiveness with rumors.

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