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The new Sean Wilentz story (5.00 / 1) (#33)
by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 01:10:36 AM EST
is really something: Obama played the Race Card First (Philadelphia Inquirer 3/30/08). It's a  harrowing chronology of a strategy that may have ruined both Dem candidates.

Excerpt: "Clinton had to fight back against a deliberately contrived strategy to make her and her husband look like race-baiters. Obama's supporters and operatives, including his chief campaign strategist David Axelrod, seized on accurate and historically noncontroversial statements and supplied a supposedly covert racist subtext that they then claimed the calculating Clinton campaign had inserted".

(Thanks for your original link to it andgarden.)

How Rovian (5.00 / 2) (#34)
by nellre on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 01:16:31 AM EST
This is what I perceived at the time too. But I though I was off base when nobody said a word about it.

No mention of gender bias. I see lots of that too, but maybe I'm off base there. Not.

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Interestingly.... (5.00 / 2) (#42)
by Rainsong on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 02:19:21 AM EST

the gender bias in the wider world has been reported in Aussie media:

US Women feel the Clinton backlash

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Contrast with NYT and Obama on 'The View'... (5.00 / 1) (#43)
by Rainsong on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 02:26:11 AM EST

Always knew there was a reason I never watched The View:

He patted Ms. Behar's arm and whispered so intimately into Ms. Walters's ear that Ms. Hasselbeck accused them of "canoodling." Mr. Obama is an effective speaker, but he is just as smooth at wordless communication: he mixed a cool and somewhat princely demeanor with warm smiles and touches.

Full article at: Obama and the Women of 'The View'

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Rainsong, thanks, for NYT View link (5.00 / 1) (#48)
by FoxholeAtheist on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 03:45:39 AM EST
I saw clips of it. Not "smooth", not "princely". It was painful to watch. Quite the smarm-fest. I half expected Joy Behar to suckle the man right there on the spot. (She's usually much better than that.)

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It was so . . . ugh. But see body language (none / 0) (#70)
by Cream City on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 09:26:09 AM EST
by Whoopi Goldberg vs. the others (which way legs are crossed, toward or away from a speaker).  It was very obvious from the start -- although she shifted toward the end, too.  But throughout, she looked like the only one who was using her brain.  (And I'm trying to remember if she even asked a question.  She just looked like she didn't want to be there.)

And what was with the candidate's sort of weird, fluttery hand motions at the start?  Never saw that before.  Looked like he was trying to be a BFF.

I don't often watch the View, as every time I do, I see this sort of high school redux show.  Ugh.

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I see, here's how to put it going forward (none / 0) (#68)
by Edgar08 on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 09:04:31 AM EST
"I'm ready for a black man to be president...

Just not this black man."


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Both camps (none / 0) (#91)
by kayla on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 04:26:50 PM EST
have been playing the race card.  Obama has been doing it more so, though.  I think the Jesse Jackson comment (as well as the "Two Americans" comment) was meant to try to get the Obama people to make some kind of gaff more than it was race-baiting.  And of course, Obama had to go off and make a memo with every mention of race from the Clinton campaign and list them as racially insensitive and it became an incredibly reckless trend for the Obama camp.  I think Bill was trying to lure them into doing or saying something stupid, but I don't think Bill expected the Obama camp to be so successful at it.

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