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That has (5.00 / 19) (#1)
by rooge04 on Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 12:38:59 PM EST
been my Great Disappointment of this campaign season (aside from the misogyny and sexism and racism).  The way that the left has so embraced ripping a long-time Dem to shreds.  The same people that were horrified at ABC for playing that horrible movie about Bill are using the very same accusations this time around.  Frightening. And I never ever thought I'd see it.

It's not new (5.00 / 1) (#65)
by dianem on Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 02:28:03 PM EST
Daily Kos has been gleefully ripping Democrats pretty much since the 2006 elections. Some people seemed to think that since Democrats were nominally in charge of Congress, all of the bad laws should instantly be overturned. The reality is that we have minority control of the Senate, composed in part of red-state Dems who will could get kicked out of office in a heartbeat, and know it, and an obstructionist and unified Republican Party. Nothing is going to change until we get some real power. But the party line on Kos and other progressive sites was that Democrats in general and Pelosi and Reid in particular are cowards who are selling out the nation's values to the corporate leaders who pay for their campaigns.

I'm not going to pretend that Pelosi has never said anything stupid, but calling her a coward and sellout seems beyond the pale. The whole Clinton-is-establishment meme and the associated anger is based on the same arguments that have been going around for years. There is nothing new here.

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You want to see a long-time Dem (none / 0) (#54)
by zyx on Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 02:12:38 PM EST
ripped to shreds?

Read THIS

http://tinyurl.com/23dacn

Financial Times

"Obama attacks Bill Clinton's economic legacy

By Edward Luce in Washington DC

Published: March 27 2008 17:34 | Last updated: March 27 2008 17:34

Barack Obama on Thursday laid much of the blame for America's unfolding credit crisis on the financial deregulation of the 1990s in his hardest hitting attack so far on the economic legacy of Bill Clinton's administration.

Mr Obama's speech - the fourth so far this week by a presidential candidate focusing on America's probable recession - called for an overhaul of US financial regulation and another $30bn in fiscal stimulus..."

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Another unnecessary attack on Clinton (5.00 / 1) (#69)
by lilburro on Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 02:40:38 PM EST
Dems distancing themselves from Clinton does NOT work.  It didn't work in 2000.  It won't work in 2008.  Why do people not realize that most people with Dem registrations don't care about "progressivism," don't care about Ned Lamont, don't care about Leahy...Bill Clinton is still the Dem that rules the roost.  He's still someone most Dems feel in some way proud of.  

Does Obama not forsee that he might want Clinton on the campaign trail?  Or if the nominee, that he might want to appeal to the 90s at some level to get votes?

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There he goes again. (5.00 / 3) (#76)
by lucky leftie on Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 03:04:55 PM EST
 As a democrat, I was angered and offended when Obama called the GOP "the party of ideas."  I was offended when he said "half of the country" was "unwilling to vote for our candidate" in 2000 and 2004.  And I'm offended by this dissing of Clinton, as I remember the Clinton years as being a positive time in our nation.

This is the same individual who claims to have been "inspired" by Ronald Reagan, and the "optimism" and "clarity" and "accountability" that Reagan brought about.  Wha'??  

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weird that a fellow dem (none / 0) (#120)
by TheRefugee on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 02:55:18 PM EST
who decries "politics as usual" is using the GOP playbook from the 90's to destroy the same people that caused the GOP to come up with the playbook in the first place.

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