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Answer what? (5.00 / 8) (#5)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:59:01 PM EST
I know it would seem ironic to an Obama MAMA, but to a reasonable and honest person, my point is quite clear.

Honesty, look it up.

BTW, I missed the Obama attack video I prepared. Can you link to it?

Can you answer my comment? Of  course not. Not honestly of course.

the irony is (5.00 / 3) (#21)
by Turkana on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:10:17 PM EST
that someone going by the name "obamamama" would claim to understand irony.

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My actions EXACTLY match my claims (5.00 / 8) (#24)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:12:07 PM EST
Compare my actions to my claims.

You will find they match up exactly.

But for an Obama MaMa, blind worship is required or you can not say that you prefer that candidate to the other.

My record on this blog is clear. I have written many things that displeased Clinton supporters. Ask them.

But you demand blind cult like fealty in order to be able to say the truth - I do not much like either candidate, but think there is not a dime's worth of difference on the issues between them and I think Obama is more electable.

Hence, I prefer Obama to Clinton.

That is my honest view. I write what I think. I always have and I always will. I have never been afraid to buck the blogosphere CW.

Anyone who knows my blogging for the past 5 years knows that what you write is ludicrous.

I do not need anyone's good will on the blogs. I get to say what I think. I am one of the few I think.  

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I'm a Clinton supporter, and I approve (5.00 / 3) (#89)
by echinopsia on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:51:32 PM EST
the above message.

BTD isn't pro-Clinton, but it would be easy for an Obama mama to think so, because he is fair.

He is one of a rare breed of Obama supporters. In fact I think he might be the last of his kind.

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My take is that this is a place (5.00 / 4) (#117)
by Anne on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 04:11:39 PM EST
where, as long as one can be civil and refrain from name-calling and profanity, one's views can be expressed, and one can agree, disagree, offer another way to look at something, vent, whatever.  Jeralyn and BTD write posts on subjects that interest them - I think they attempt to be even-handed, are willing to criticize their candidate of choice, and are never reluctant to correct something they posted that was wrong.

If someone doesn't like the posts, or the comments, there is nothing forcing them to read or participate - there are plenty of other blogs to sample.

There's very little garbage here, a lot of thoughtful and thought-provoking comments - it is a pleasure to have conversations with people who take the time to construct an argument rather than resort to flinging mud; call me crazy, but that helps me out here in the "real" world, as I encounter people whose arguments are the bumper-sticker, talking-point variety, and who cannot explain why they spout the nonsense they do.

I am ever so sorry that you will not find blind adoration here - of any candidate.  There may be a majority of Clinton supporters here, but trust me when I say that we know all about her flaws and her weaknesses - but when there is non-stop criticism and smearing and blatant bias being directed at Clinton from all sides of the media spectrum, sometimes just trying to be heard above all that noise can sound over-the-top, but someone needs to speak for us - so who better than us?

If you don't like it here, don't participate - it's that simple.

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BTD claims he's anything other than pro clinton? (1.00 / 1) (#22)
by Faust on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:10:22 PM EST
I haven't seen him claim that.

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You are wrong (5.00 / 1) (#29)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:12:55 PM EST
I am anti both of them really.

But given a bad choice, I think Obama more electable.

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The problem with you (5.00 / 5) (#129)
by andgarden on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 04:26:31 PM EST
is that you require support to actually mean "enthusiastic SYFPH closed ranks support."  

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If I make (none / 0) (#137)
by clapclappointpoint on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 04:39:56 PM EST
five disparaging comments about you and your friends, and one midly supportive one, would you consider me one of your supporters?

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Neither of these candidates (5.00 / 1) (#159)
by lilburro on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 07:01:39 PM EST
are your friends.  Duh.

A political party should be more dynamic than just 'GET IN LINE.'

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Critical does not equal disparaging (none / 0) (#138)
by andgarden on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 04:42:20 PM EST
and your real friends always tell you the truth.

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If it's constructive criticism (none / 0) (#141)
by clapclappointpoint on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 04:56:58 PM EST
I wouldn't want to be on the end of something really negative.

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A bad choice? (none / 0) (#44)
by AF on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:17:56 PM EST
They are two of the three best Democratic presidential candidates since JFK.

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I think you damn with faint praise (5.00 / 1) (#47)
by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:20:23 PM EST


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Fair enough (none / 0) (#54)
by AF on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:22:29 PM EST


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Depends on what you mean (5.00 / 3) (#48)
by andgarden on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:20:40 PM EST
by "good candidate." JFK was barely elected.

It was left to Johnson to implement the programs AND win in a landslide.

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I'm sure that many Hillary supporters (none / 0) (#81)
by MarkL on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:43:52 PM EST
(myself included) think Hillary is a great candidate----better than Bill, in terms of her values, though not as charismatic, but sharing with Bill a passion for policy and huge intelligence.

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Ok then! (none / 0) (#51)
by Faust on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:21:30 PM EST
Thanks for clearing that up :)

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"anti both of them" (none / 0) (#124)
by magster on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 04:20:14 PM EST
is more honest than saying you're an Obama supporter, as you have in the past.  "Supporter" does not fit you. How about "Obama begrudger"?

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