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Provide a link to NOI being delared a (none / 0) (#202)
by Seth90212 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 11:49:04 PM EST
hate group. They're not going out and assaulting people physically or even advocating that. You could argue that they are a defensive organization just like the JDL (though JDL seems more prone to violence and the advocacy of violence). But a reasonable person would cut the JDL some slack given the persecution of jews throught the centuries.

NOI is is mostly concerned with self-determination and self-help among blacks. These are conservative values and it is in the interest of society generally for blacks to improve themselves from within. NOI is anti-drug and alcohol abuse. They work for strong black family units, education, impeccable hygiene, healthy diets, self-respect and respect for society at large. They want to build up black communities by circulating money within the black community just like Jews, Iranians, Armenians and the other successful minorities do.

Therefore, Farrkhan and NOI are good for America. Black America getting itself together is good for everybody.

By the way, what have you said about Billy Graham who was caught on tape trying to poison Nixon's mind against Jews?

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Here's the link... (none / 0) (#213)
by Exeter on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:00:02 AM EST
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp

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Thanks. From your link, this is how they (none / 0) (#220)
by Seth90212 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:18:46 AM EST
describe them:

Black separatists typically oppose integration and racial intermarriage, and they want separate institutions -- or even a separate nation -- for blacks. Most forms of black separatism are strongly anti-white and anti-Semitic, and a number of religious versions assert that blacks -- not Jews -- are the Biblical "chosen people" of God.

Although the Southern Poverty Law Center recognizes that much black racism in America is, at least in part, a response to centuries of white racism, it believes racism must be exposed in all its forms. White groups espousing beliefs similar to Black Separatists would be considered clearly racist. The same criterion should be applied to all groups regardless of their color.

This is relatively benign compared to real violent and viscious hate groups. Still, I think NOI would take great exception even to this characterization. I think Southern Poverty Law Center is bending over backwards to appear evenhanded. In any event, I don't believe that even the most wild-eyed Hillary supporter believes that Obama opposes integration or intermarriage.

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Do black women have equal rights in the NOI? (none / 0) (#221)
by criticalthinker on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:23:50 AM EST
Per Wikipedia, the official platform also states that "Belief in the respect (but in Muslim tradition, not the equality) of Black women" is one of the beliefs of the NOI.

I find that very troubling. Please enlighten.

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