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Farrakhan is a Racist NOI is Hate Group (none / 0) (#192)
by Exeter on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 11:35:59 PM EST
Nation of Islam is on the list of hate groups of the Southern Poverty Center for it wide variety of very, very ugly and bizarre views, including that an evil black scientist created the "blue-eyed devil" white man in a lab accident 6,600 years ago.  NOI is more a racist cult than a religion.

As for Farrakhan, not only does he lead this crazy group, he's preached that whites are less evolved than blacks, praised Hitler, called white man the "anti-christ, ect, ect, but here's the kicker: he believes that the NOI founder Elijah Mohamed is still alive and in a spaceship circling the Earth ANNND, best of all, Farrakhan has ridden in this spaceship and spoken to Mohamed after he "died". I'm not making this stuff up.

Obama is smart, Harvard educated intelectual. He knews better and it shows a gross error in judgement that this went on for over 20 years and, even today, he refuses to quit the church!

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Provide a link to NOI being delared a (none / 0) (#202)
by Seth90212 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 11:49:04 PM EST
hate group. They're not going out and assaulting people physically or even advocating that. You could argue that they are a defensive organization just like the JDL (though JDL seems more prone to violence and the advocacy of violence). But a reasonable person would cut the JDL some slack given the persecution of jews throught the centuries.

NOI is is mostly concerned with self-determination and self-help among blacks. These are conservative values and it is in the interest of society generally for blacks to improve themselves from within. NOI is anti-drug and alcohol abuse. They work for strong black family units, education, impeccable hygiene, healthy diets, self-respect and respect for society at large. They want to build up black communities by circulating money within the black community just like Jews, Iranians, Armenians and the other successful minorities do.

Therefore, Farrkhan and NOI are good for America. Black America getting itself together is good for everybody.

By the way, what have you said about Billy Graham who was caught on tape trying to poison Nixon's mind against Jews?

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Here's the link... (none / 0) (#213)
by Exeter on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:00:02 AM EST
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp

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Thanks. From your link, this is how they (none / 0) (#220)
by Seth90212 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:18:46 AM EST
describe them:

Black separatists typically oppose integration and racial intermarriage, and they want separate institutions -- or even a separate nation -- for blacks. Most forms of black separatism are strongly anti-white and anti-Semitic, and a number of religious versions assert that blacks -- not Jews -- are the Biblical "chosen people" of God.

Although the Southern Poverty Law Center recognizes that much black racism in America is, at least in part, a response to centuries of white racism, it believes racism must be exposed in all its forms. White groups espousing beliefs similar to Black Separatists would be considered clearly racist. The same criterion should be applied to all groups regardless of their color.

This is relatively benign compared to real violent and viscious hate groups. Still, I think NOI would take great exception even to this characterization. I think Southern Poverty Law Center is bending over backwards to appear evenhanded. In any event, I don't believe that even the most wild-eyed Hillary supporter believes that Obama opposes integration or intermarriage.

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Do black women have equal rights in the NOI? (none / 0) (#221)
by criticalthinker on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:23:50 AM EST
Per Wikipedia, the official platform also states that "Belief in the respect (but in Muslim tradition, not the equality) of Black women" is one of the beliefs of the NOI.

I find that very troubling. Please enlighten.

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