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Karl Rove on Obama's Exaggerations and Best Move for FL/MI | 124 comments (124 topical)

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Maybe I'm missing something... (5.00 / 1) (#15)
by sweetthings on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 08:47:01 PM EST
But I don't see how Rove's suggestion is particularly gutsy. He says that Obama should wait until June, after all the primaries are finished, then come forward with the 'seat them all' suggestion. But at that point, we'll know the final numbers for pledged delegates, and frankly, it will be pretty clear which way things are headed. (Either Clinton will have blown out Obama from PA onward, and will have all but secured the nomination, or she won't have, and will have all but lost.) Obama will know exactly how many delegates ahead he is, and will probably have a very, very good idea of how many Supers are in his pocket as well. There's no risk...just some quick math.

Heck, I'd be very surprised if Obama didn't do just that. The risk is minimal and the PR fantastic.

Now, calling for the delegates to be seated BEFORE all the primaries are finished...that would gutsy. (and would truly mark him as a leader) However, it would have to be done in conjunction with the DNC, to make sure that states don't walk away with the wrong lesson.

I agree that he has already passed (5.00 / 1) (#33)
by Joan in VA on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 09:01:57 PM EST
on the chance to be gutsy( I would say "do the right thing"). I know you have compared the states to children but they aren't. They don't learn lessons. The people in the states could care less about the DNC and their twisted power plays. The state parties and the DNC need to get their act together.

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I don't think he's completely missed... (none / 0) (#36)
by sweetthings on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 09:11:07 PM EST
his chance to impress. Seating them now would be pretty damn gutsy. Seating them after PA and NC might still be a worthy gesture, depending on how they turn out. But with each passing primary, the genuine value decreases. Waiting until June pretty much turns it into a PR ploy.

I agree that states aren't children, but you still have to make sure that state parties have a vested interest in playing by the rules, and that means making sure they don't benefit from breaking them.

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Roolz (none / 0) (#151)
by cal1942 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:36:50 PM EST
"I agree that states aren't children, but you still have to make sure that state parties have a vested interest in playing by the rules, and that means making sure they don't benefit from breaking them."

What benefit?  Name me a benefit.  As it turned out the DNC completely blew it on this one. The DNC found a way to wound the party.  Brilliant.

If you really want to talk about 'da roolz' it should be noted that six states broke the rules and two were given the death penalty.

This is no kid's game.

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Exactly (none / 0) (#41)
by ruffian on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 09:27:03 PM EST
I've been saying for a week or so that Obama should agree now to seat FL and MI.

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